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Are Congress and Obama Deliberately Inciting a New US Civil War?
Canadian Free Press ^ | March 20, 2009 | Sher Zieve

Posted on 03/20/2009 2:19:14 PM PDT by LoneStarC

With the events that have transpired over the last 58 days—since Obama and his adherents commandeered the US presidency—fear is now becoming the order of each and every day for many of We-the-People. ....... ....has led me to believe that both Congress and Obama are in the process of purposefully creating conditions that will lead to a revolution by We-the-People so that it and Obama can affect Martial Law and once and for all forcibly suppress the American people

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To: central_va; Braak
It is not treasonous to discuss the dividing up of the USA. It is real possibility and NEEDS to be discussed. It is wise and prudent to do so. It happened once, it could happen again. Last time there were two major issues, states rights and slavery. Now the two sides disagree about everything. There is really very little holding things together IMHO. The real question is can a POSSIBLE division be done in a humane and peaceful way. Discussing that is better than shooting at each other, don't you think?

Yeah, you have two basic viewpoints that are becoming so different that there is almost no way you can reconcile or compromise between them. Should we continue trying to live together and beat each other up in an ideological Cold War that can go hot or should we just part as friends? I'm sure if we split up in a friendly way, both sides can still trade, visit each other, work together in space, be part of NATO and so on.

The alternative is much worse. What if one side pushes the other into a corner, the way it looks, we are getting close to being in that corner. Then you'll have someone like a latter day Tim McVeigh, Ted Kaczinski or Gavilro Princip get an idea to do something stupid and you'll end up in a hot civil war. It will end in one of two ways, we wipe them out or they wipe us out. Even a kitten or a baby chick will fight if they are cornered and have nothing to lose. Nothing to lose is when things are the most dangerous.

I don't want it to come down to that, if the kool-aid drinkers don't or won't wise up, then they would be better off in their own country or we kick them out and send them to Europe since they want to emulate Europe all the time.

I just want to be left alone, if they want to run things, send them to Europe or let them have their own country, just leave the rest of us alone.
101 posted on 03/20/2009 6:19:11 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Is Barak HUSSEIN Obama an Anti-Christ? - B.O. Stinks! (Robert Riddle))
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To: DuncanWaring

She wants to know where to sign up for the resistance


102 posted on 03/20/2009 6:20:25 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Zero parcus dies Nero Totus hail FUBO)
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To: Uncle Sham
If you are the United States government and are FLAT BROKE, how do you handle this situation?

From what I gather, they have put the US Military on the market as a for-hire organization. We went into Iraq for the House of Saud, who also happened to buy up a lot of US debt and were great friends of Clinton/Bush. We are going into Pakistan for the Chinese, who coincidentally have bought a lot of US debt. The ruling Party is not worried about the loyalty of the US military. It is going to destroy the US military overseas with huge commitments required by those supporting the government debt. Internal dissent will be handled by policing forces, national guardsman and the New Civilian Corps. IMHO.

And the ruling US government has no other alternative. The idiots have placed themselves into a locked box. A failure to commit the US military to the Foreign Request, will bring about the end of the US dollar as the worlds reserve currency.

103 posted on 03/20/2009 6:26:26 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Little Ray

He is not counting on the military to further his domestic agenda — they’ll mutiny first, and he knows it. Instead he’s constituting his Civilian Security Force for that purpose. Civil War is a certainty unless he is stopped, which won’t happen politically.


104 posted on 03/20/2009 6:32:13 PM PDT by Dionysius (Jingoism is no vice in these troubled times.)
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To: clamper1797
In that case I guess you could tell her "Right here". Or "Right behind me".

Kinda like this guy:


105 posted on 03/20/2009 6:36:14 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: LoneStarC

There is a one word answer to this question....YES ! If he continues on a path that will destroy my beloved United States, he most assuredly will.


106 posted on 03/20/2009 7:11:17 PM PDT by dbrew2u
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To: LoneStarC
Are Congress and Obama Deliberately Inciting a New US Civil War?

Maybe....Congress and Zero against the whole country!

108 posted on 03/20/2009 7:25:19 PM PDT by LUV W (The new Boston Tea Party is here, baby, and it's doused in barbecue sauce..Michelle Malkin)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

yes - abortion is the root of it all. cause and effect.
you can’t kill 40m people with no consequences.


109 posted on 03/20/2009 7:25:27 PM PDT by rogernz
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To: LoneStarC

Simply by reading some of these posts. One would believe the battle had already begun. Far from being a uniter, he is among the biggest dividers this country has ever witnessed. And the shame of it is that he is the President. It is not a coincidence that the country is in shambles and getting worse by the day. It is starting to appear that there is a true effort to forever change this nation from being the the beacon of Freedom, to a nation much like the old Soviet Union. Freedom lovers, watch Glenn Beck and attend local Tea Parties and prepare to fight.


110 posted on 03/20/2009 7:27:20 PM PDT by dbrew2u
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To: LoneStarC

no, but they are providing a perfect living, real time example that government eggheads know nothing about running business


111 posted on 03/20/2009 7:29:36 PM PDT by sfvgto (Dear Congress, my name is Jimmie....gimmie, gimmie, gimmie)
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To: momincombatboots

Yes Hitler’s Brown Shirts were in a sense his civilian force.

And to Majormaturity who said “My Fellow Freepers: Let’s stop talking treason” They have not yet killed the 1st amendment, talking about what we think Obama is up to is not treason! and if they come for us because of it, they just proved our speculation as fact!


112 posted on 03/20/2009 7:29:39 PM PDT by Idaho_Independent (The 3 boxes of freedom, Soap Box, Ballet Box, and the Ammo Box.)
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To: LoneStarC

Personally.....and I’ve discussed this with those close to me.....we’re guessing TOTAL ‘overthrow’, here. May be wrong, tho. We’re just smelling a helluva lot of ‘smoke’, here.


113 posted on 03/20/2009 7:30:29 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Obama dozed.....people froze.)
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To: Nowhere Man

if the kool-aid drinkers don’t or won’t wise up, then they would be better off in their own country or we kick them out and send them to Europe since they want to emulate Europe all the time.
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They’re the ones who are ‘anti-gun’, tho. IOW.........they DON’T own them.


114 posted on 03/20/2009 7:33:39 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Obama dozed.....people froze.)
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To: Iron Munro

Does a bear take an Obama in the woods?


Yep. 0bama is one big boo boo.

115 posted on 03/20/2009 7:37:14 PM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
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To: Jaded

Who said the execs at AIG should be strung up with piano wire? That’s sick.


116 posted on 03/20/2009 7:37:45 PM PDT by o2bfree
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To: DuncanWaring

My mom (64) has been calling and complaining to me about all this. She didn’t vote for 0, but she has been a lifelong Democrat. I chide her about that.

She’s even mentioning buying an AK and figuring out meeting spots for the family.


117 posted on 03/20/2009 7:52:26 PM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: LoneStarC

I don’t know if they want it, but listening to everyone in malls, restaurants, almost everywhere you go, it looks like if they keep this up, they may get one. I’ve never seen so many people so pissed off. Never! Ammo and firearm sales speak volumes and don’t let the news sell you the BS that’s it’s because they think they may be banned. We went to a gun show a few weekends ago and they were buying, LOTS, and I heard many say they expected they would have to use them eventually. Scary times people, scary times.


118 posted on 03/20/2009 7:52:36 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: Jaded
There ARE people who should be stung up with piano wire - - and they aren't working for AIG.

There's a reason Mussolini ended up hanging upside down from a lamp post.

119 posted on 03/20/2009 7:55:01 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (What did Obama's Teleprompter know, and when did it know it...)
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To: momincombatboots

It would be a slaughter of patriots versus the very well oiled US Military
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Will never happen. Go to the military forums and read them.


120 posted on 03/20/2009 7:57:05 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: DuncanWaring
Now they're Incitement to Prilosec and Adult Beverages.

And the reloading bench.

Yep, though hopefully not in that order.

121 posted on 03/20/2009 7:57:43 PM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: central_va

It is not treasonous to discuss the dividing up of the USA. It is real possibility and NEEDS to be discussed. It is wise and prudent to do so. It happened once, it could happen again. Last time there were two major issues, states rights and slavery. Now the two sides disagree about everything. There is really very little holding things together IMHO. The real question is can a POSSIBLE division be done in a humane and peaceful way. Discussing that is better than shooting at each other, don’t you think?
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS


122 posted on 03/20/2009 8:00:14 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Your fellow citizens accept socialism.
They out number you.
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No they don’t.


123 posted on 03/20/2009 8:01:17 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: ari-freedom
I dunno how grassley plays into this because he’s a republican

It breaks down like this: The democrat party is entirely committed to the destruction of our Constitution and our Republic. At least 20% of the republicans are with them. Another 20-30% will go along to get along, damn the consequences.

Most likely, Grassley's just a useful idiot playing to a state full of pitchfork-wielding populist drones. Either way, he's already revealed who'll he's going to stand with when push comes to shove. And it won't be us.

124 posted on 03/20/2009 8:03:16 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: NoGrayZone
I feel like I am being provoked, like a triple dog dare.

Yes, I get that feeling too. Everything Obama does is so - "in your face." You know, like when you are driving and some people start to cross the road s-lo-w-l-y in front of you...and they glare at you, daring you to try to run them over, or complain. You have to stop even though you have the right of way and they are walking against the light. But they do it just to upset you and see if you show your anger. If you complain, then they scream that you are picking on them, or you know the typical comment! That is how we are being treated by the administration.

125 posted on 03/20/2009 8:03:22 PM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: fr_freak

#83, Excellent!! You nailed it.


126 posted on 03/20/2009 8:04:31 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: Idaho_Independent
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127 posted on 03/20/2009 8:07:16 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: rgr

2 posts today from you advocating revolution and you’ve been here a little over a week. Read the posting rules, you’re on the fast track to Zotville.


128 posted on 03/20/2009 8:08:34 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: Dionysius

Instead he’s constituting his Civilian Security Force for that purpose.
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If he begins to form and arm a CSF, I think that will be the catalyst and I think our military will kick their ass in no time.


129 posted on 03/20/2009 8:10:18 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: mojitojoe

I take it you liked my post?


130 posted on 03/20/2009 8:13:41 PM PDT by central_va (Co. C, 15th Va., Patrick Henry Rifles-The boys of Hanover Co.)
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To: broncobilly
it seems the Democrat’s agenda is to ship the baby making over seas.

Brilliant observation....outsourcing babies...or perhaps outsourcing embryo import-export! in any event eventually we'll have to send a cruise missile into the baby making factory, like Klinton did the Baby Milk Factory. Natural end to weak presidents.

131 posted on 03/20/2009 8:14:18 PM PDT by CRBDeuce (here, while the internet is still free of the Fairness Doctrine)
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To: word_warrior_bob

Agitators, trying to get a bull’s-eye painted on FR’s back. They’re crawling all over the place.


132 posted on 03/20/2009 8:16:02 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Why are liberals never held accountable for laws and policies they pass, or unintended consequences?

Simple really...There are so few good laws and so many unintended consequences, that require more laws to attempt to repair...and on, and on, and on....

133 posted on 03/20/2009 8:17:54 PM PDT by CRBDeuce (here, while the internet is still free of the Fairness Doctrine)
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To: datura

I think the point of Oboooomba’s treason has already been passed with this refusal to validate his constitutional qualification to be TOTUS.


134 posted on 03/20/2009 8:19:03 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: SkyDancer

I’m Here. You called?


135 posted on 03/20/2009 8:19:19 PM PDT by WhirlwindAttack (The opposite of progress is congress.)
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To: WhirlwindAttack

LOL ....


136 posted on 03/20/2009 8:19:59 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

They stick out like a sore thumb, I wish more people would report abuse on these “revolutionaries”.


137 posted on 03/20/2009 8:30:39 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: fr_freak

“All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.”
— Thomas Jefferson


138 posted on 03/20/2009 8:32:17 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (What did Obama's Teleprompter know, and when did it know it...)
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To: justa-hairyape

OMG!

First time I ever heard that!


139 posted on 03/20/2009 8:32:34 PM PDT by Califreak (111th Congress: Destroying America With Reckless Abandon)
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To: Repeal 16-17

The states need to re-acquire the rights originally established in the constitution....the federali have overstepped their bounds, by a country mile! The Senate needs be appointed by the Governors to represent the States...etc . Some amendments ...16th and 17th are a good start...need be repealed.

Missing today is ‘of the people, by the people, for the people’!!! the corollary to ‘without representation’!! Hopefully, a Tea Party theme!


140 posted on 03/20/2009 8:35:24 PM PDT by CRBDeuce (here, while the internet is still free of the Fairness Doctrine)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Ron Paul spam-fishing.


141 posted on 03/20/2009 8:38:06 PM PDT by Califreak (111th Congress: Destroying America With Reckless Abandon)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...

Trick question.


142 posted on 03/20/2009 8:40:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: CRBDeuce
The Senate needs be appointed by the Governors to represent the States

Before the 17th Amendment, each State Legislature chose its State's Senators. Do you believe gubernatorial appointment is better than legislative selection?

Everything else in your post is dead on.

143 posted on 03/20/2009 8:40:05 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: LoneStarC
even a year ago i wouldn't of thought it possible. now, well...
144 posted on 03/20/2009 8:42:22 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - Obama is basically Jim Jones with a teleprompter)
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To: LoneStarC

Nobody elected King George.
Obama was elected and he gets 4 years to try to push through anything he wants.
We get a chance to elect some people in a year and a half that will say “NO”.

Keep in mind that what our founding fathers did was treason until they won. They had been quite willing to live as subjects of the King. All they wanted was to be heard and to have a voice. When they couldn’t even have that small gift that was given to the subjects who lived in Britian they couldn’t tolerate it and decided it was better to die than to live like that. They knew it was treason which is why Ben Franklin said that we had better hang together or we will all hang seperately.

You have the power to associate with like minded souls and when the government won’t listen you can remove them without committing treason. That is the greatest gift that any person could ever leave his ancestors and I will not besmirch them by comparing our lot with theirs.


145 posted on 03/20/2009 9:07:27 PM PDT by hirn_man
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To: hirn_man

Just because I can still vote in a national election, I should be quiet while my country slips away? I live 10 miles from Patrick Henry’s house, I would guess that he would think that today’s problems are much worse than his contemporary. The King was only exacting small percentage for taxation, now the socialists want to tax at 90%? Tyranny is tyranny whether by a socialist mob or monarch. Your little self righteous rant, though well written, needs more thought.


146 posted on 03/20/2009 9:29:32 PM PDT by central_va (Co. C, 15th Va., Patrick Henry Rifles-The boys of Hanover Co.)
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To: Repeal 16-17

Thank you for pointing that out. It’s one of my pet peeves. The 17th knocked the wind out of the 10th. No one in congress cares about the migration of state authority into congress any more. Now the only entity in washington that has any incentive to uphold the Tenth is the supreme court. That our country is upside down can be witnessed by noting the amount due on our state and federal tax forms are reversed from what they should be.


147 posted on 03/20/2009 9:56:25 PM PDT by H.Akston (Wonder what was on those classified papers that Sandy Berger destroyed at the National Archives?)
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To: fr_freak
Fighting for the Constitution would be patriotism, so you have your analysis exactly backwards. The military oath of loyalty is to the Constitution, NOT to the party in power and NOT to any politician. Fighting against those who subvert and destroy the Constitution in the US would be fulfillment of the oath, not a violation of it.

Exactly.

148 posted on 03/20/2009 10:06:35 PM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: datura
Eventually the tipping point will come. At what point do we find the resident of the White House to be treasonous?

What about a finding of insanity after the GOP regains control of Congress in 2010? Incapacity, but then... Joe Biden isn't much better. Notice how Hillary's been very quiet lately?

149 posted on 03/20/2009 10:07:05 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: broncobilly

“Some criticize the Republicans for shipping the jobs overseas.”

Taxes, regulations, unions and lawyers are the reasons why manufacturing has been fleeing the US.

Four of dhimmicrats favorite things.


150 posted on 03/20/2009 10:07:17 PM PDT by ebiskit (South Park Republican ( I see Red People ))
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