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Are Congress and Obama Deliberately Inciting a New US Civil War?
Canadian Free Press ^ | March 20, 2009 | Sher Zieve

Posted on 03/20/2009 2:19:14 PM PDT by LoneStarC

With the events that have transpired over the last 58 days—since Obama and his adherents commandeered the US presidency—fear is now becoming the order of each and every day for many of We-the-People. ....... ....has led me to believe that both Congress and Obama are in the process of purposefully creating conditions that will lead to a revolution by We-the-People so that it and Obama can affect Martial Law and once and for all forcibly suppress the American people

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To: majormaturity
Let's save our guns, ammo, and talk of treason for when they try to abolish the 2ND amendment.

It is not treasonous to discuss the dividing up of the USA. It is real possibility and NEEDS to be discussed. It is wise and prudent to do so. It happened once, it could happen again. Last time there were two major issues, states rights and slavery. Now the two sides disagree about everything. There is really very little holding things together IMHO. The real question is can a POSSIBLE division be done in a humane and peaceful way. Discussing that is better than shooting at each other, don't you think?

61 posted on 03/20/2009 3:34:41 PM PDT by central_va (Co. C, 15th Va., Patrick Henry Rifles-The boys of Hanover Co.)
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To: momincombatboots
Ok You tell me.. who fought in the civil war?

Are you telling me that today's voluntary members of the USAF are, mentally speaking, no different than the draftees in the 1860s? Who defines “foreign and domestic” enemies during a conflict or even before a conflict begins? Who commands the US Military?

The federal government. Does that mean the federal government can never be one of the "enemies" against whom the USAF is to protect us?

62 posted on 03/20/2009 3:35:31 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Little Ray
First rule of COMPETENT tyranny is make sure your military is better fed and cared for than the populace.

These guys have got all sorts of Grand and Glorious Plans, but I don't think they've really thought everything all the way through.

63 posted on 03/20/2009 3:35:33 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: LoneStarC
Are Congress and Obama Deliberately Inciting a New US Civil War?

Does a bear take an Obama in the woods?
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64 posted on 03/20/2009 3:36:27 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.)
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To: LoneStarC

Locked and Loaded.Bring it on Dumbo.


65 posted on 03/20/2009 3:38:56 PM PDT by bikerman (Obama lied;the Country died.)
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To: majormaturity

You are being overly optimistic.
Your fellow citizens accept socialism.
They out number you.
What now?


66 posted on 03/20/2009 3:41:55 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th
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To: Repeal 16-17

LOL, You honestly think someone or some group of military are gonna declare the government their enemy? The same gov’t that feeds their families and provides ammunition for them? So who would assume that role in your scenario? I still vote for surround them and turn on the vise grip of voter power.


67 posted on 03/20/2009 3:44:18 PM PDT by momincombatboots (The last experience of the sinner is the horrible enslavement of the freedom he desired. -C.S. Lewis)
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To: Eaker; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; ApesForEvolution; archy; backhoe; Badray; t_skoz; Becki; Jack Black; ...

CWII PING! Three in one day.


68 posted on 03/20/2009 3:46:18 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: LoneStarC
I think there might be another possibility as to "why" they are doing this. Remember, this government is financially broke and reduced to borrowing TRILLIONS to remain afloat as it is. States themselves are broke and in a bind when it comes to meeting their obligations. This "stimulus" plan was a short reprieve to those liberal hell-holes unable to remain solvent on their own. It bought them and the scumbags running them a little time before they have to face their constituents with the truth. The limit is running out on how far This "can" of accountability can be kicked down the road. Time is running out. Something MUST be done to avert the disaster looming for those responsible if the public is faced with the truth that liberalism has ruined their lives and futures.

Over the past fifty years, liberals have made promises to take care of everyone who supported them. They’ve promised social security, medicare, and prescription drugs to the baby boomers. They promised exorbitant retirement packages to the teachers, the federal workers, and to the high ranking military. They promised cradle to the grave subsistence to the poverty stricken with welfare, food stamps, housing assistance, etc. etc. etc.

These “promises” total over 57 TRILLION dollars. The baby boomers are almost ready to start retiring in massive numbers. They want their goodies. The federal workforce, along with the teachers and police are starting to retire in large numbers as they’ve put in their time as well. They want their goodies. Same for the military, etc. etc. The poverty folks are falling further behind and they will be making their continued demands.

If you are the United States government and are FLAT BROKE, how do you handle this situation? You can’t pay your bills. You can’t let the ones you’ve promised so much to find out it was all just a scam, at least if you are a current office holder. There is ONLY ONE SOLUTION. You anger the masses to the point of breaking up the country into separate political entities. Doing this means your day of reckoning NEVER arrives. You don’t ever have to show your hand. You simply allow history to change the landscape politically as you melt back into whichever society emerges. That 57 trillion dollar turd NEVER hits the fan. Knowing the end is near so to speak, steal as much “future” wealth as you can and take care of your buddies on Wall Street before you leave office (Bush), and take care of your buddies as you (Obama) wreck the nation into the disarray that will bring about this “change” everyone thought they were voting for.

69 posted on 03/20/2009 3:49:00 PM PDT by Uncle Sham
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To: majormaturity
I'm not slamming you, scout's honor.

But what you wrote strikes me as similar to what the still-rational Germans must've been thinking/hoping in, say, '35 or '36 ?

70 posted on 03/20/2009 3:50:09 PM PDT by tomkat (lexington, concord, flyover)
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To: fr_freak
"The only scenario where I see these commie idiots doing this purposely is one where a foreign power, such as Russia, is already lined up to invade once our civil war kicks off. Without that, the leftists in this country wouldn't have a prayer of winning an actual armed conflict."

That's not too far from the plot of my 3rd novel.


71 posted on 03/20/2009 3:51:12 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: momincombatboots

“...It would be a slaughter of patriots versus the very well oiled US Military...”

As a Navy veteran, I cannot see anytime soon where our sons, brothers, nephews, fathers or grandsons, will turn against their families or friends and fire upon us. And I sincerely doubt whether illegal orders to disarm civilians will be carried out.

We have a military of volunteers that is, at its core, a civilian-based military. They will not fire upon their own.


72 posted on 03/20/2009 3:51:49 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: LoneStarC

Call me paranoid but I’ve wondered the same thing. The problem with martial law is that it relies on the military, and at the end of the day, the military is made up of We the People too. I don’t know that Obamateur could count on them to take up arms against their own countrymen.


73 posted on 03/20/2009 3:55:12 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

>their kids born here are American citizens.

“subject to the jurisdiction thereof”


74 posted on 03/20/2009 3:56:47 PM PDT by ROTB (It is easy being "pro-choice" when you're not the one getting killed.)
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To: Califreak; Jaded
The AIG exec read that in his statement at the House hearings when Barney Frank asked for the names of those that had received the bonuses...I did see that....

And Sen Grassley made the Statement about the Japanese...etc...

75 posted on 03/20/2009 4:01:29 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (What happened to my IRAs)
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To: Repeal 16-17

Reminder: It has been done before. They would simply declare the patriots “combatants” or “insurrectionists” and force the USAF and every other service member to choose. When I took the oath it was “enemies, both foreign and domestic”. Simply declaring patriots domestic enemies would allow the US military to “fire at will”. Remember Waco? If the government declares a group as domestic enemies, swat teams will shoot first and ask questions later.

How does the federal government “force” the USAF to fire on fellow Americans? As for your “oath”, is it ever possible for members of the federal government to be the “enemies” against whom the USAF is to protect the People? I’m sure this is not your intention, but your comment above gives the impression that the USAF consists of mindless drones. I hope our American soldiers and sailors are able to identify this countries domestic enemies.

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I also think they can spot the true enemy, but not if ...

1) they are rushed into a decision
2) they think everyone else will pick evil, and they will choose evil so they can “live”


76 posted on 03/20/2009 4:01:57 PM PDT by ROTB (It is easy being "pro-choice" when you're not the one getting killed.)
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To: Little Ray

Oh, I would imagine Obama’s brownshirts will be better fed and cared for than the populace. - I don’t know what they’re doing really, and what’s more I wonder if THEY know what they’re doing.


77 posted on 03/20/2009 4:03:32 PM PDT by Twinkie (Obama is NOT Reagan !)
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To: LoneStarC

I don’t believe it will be a civil war. Instead I believe it will more like American Revolution 2 against King FUBO


78 posted on 03/20/2009 4:07:10 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Zero parcus dies Nero Totus hail FUBO)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I remembered Grassley’s comment too.

Both remarks were extreme.


79 posted on 03/20/2009 4:07:46 PM PDT by Califreak (111th Congress: Destroying America With Reckless Abandon)
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To: clamper1797

I posted too quickly the first time.

I believe they are deliberately provoking us into action so they can institute martial law.

But civil war might not be entirely out of the question either.

It would be US against the koolaid drinkers.


80 posted on 03/20/2009 4:10:14 PM PDT by Califreak (111th Congress: Destroying America With Reckless Abandon)
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