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Are Congress and Obama Deliberately Inciting a New US Civil War?
Canadian Free Press ^ | March 20, 2009 | Sher Zieve

Posted on 03/20/2009 2:19:14 PM PDT by LoneStarC

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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Ron Paul spam-fishing.


141 posted on 03/20/2009 8:38:06 PM PDT by Califreak (111th Congress: Destroying America With Reckless Abandon)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...

Trick question.


142 posted on 03/20/2009 8:40:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: CRBDeuce
The Senate needs be appointed by the Governors to represent the States

Before the 17th Amendment, each State Legislature chose its State's Senators. Do you believe gubernatorial appointment is better than legislative selection?

Everything else in your post is dead on.

143 posted on 03/20/2009 8:40:05 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: LoneStarC
even a year ago i wouldn't of thought it possible. now, well...
144 posted on 03/20/2009 8:42:22 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - Obama is basically Jim Jones with a teleprompter)
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To: LoneStarC

Nobody elected King George.
Obama was elected and he gets 4 years to try to push through anything he wants.
We get a chance to elect some people in a year and a half that will say “NO”.

Keep in mind that what our founding fathers did was treason until they won. They had been quite willing to live as subjects of the King. All they wanted was to be heard and to have a voice. When they couldn’t even have that small gift that was given to the subjects who lived in Britian they couldn’t tolerate it and decided it was better to die than to live like that. They knew it was treason which is why Ben Franklin said that we had better hang together or we will all hang seperately.

You have the power to associate with like minded souls and when the government won’t listen you can remove them without committing treason. That is the greatest gift that any person could ever leave his ancestors and I will not besmirch them by comparing our lot with theirs.


145 posted on 03/20/2009 9:07:27 PM PDT by hirn_man
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To: hirn_man

Just because I can still vote in a national election, I should be quiet while my country slips away? I live 10 miles from Patrick Henry’s house, I would guess that he would think that today’s problems are much worse than his contemporary. The King was only exacting small percentage for taxation, now the socialists want to tax at 90%? Tyranny is tyranny whether by a socialist mob or monarch. Your little self righteous rant, though well written, needs more thought.


146 posted on 03/20/2009 9:29:32 PM PDT by central_va (Co. C, 15th Va., Patrick Henry Rifles-The boys of Hanover Co.)
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To: Repeal 16-17

Thank you for pointing that out. It’s one of my pet peeves. The 17th knocked the wind out of the 10th. No one in congress cares about the migration of state authority into congress any more. Now the only entity in washington that has any incentive to uphold the Tenth is the supreme court. That our country is upside down can be witnessed by noting the amount due on our state and federal tax forms are reversed from what they should be.


147 posted on 03/20/2009 9:56:25 PM PDT by H.Akston (Wonder what was on those classified papers that Sandy Berger destroyed at the National Archives?)
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To: fr_freak
Fighting for the Constitution would be patriotism, so you have your analysis exactly backwards. The military oath of loyalty is to the Constitution, NOT to the party in power and NOT to any politician. Fighting against those who subvert and destroy the Constitution in the US would be fulfillment of the oath, not a violation of it.

Exactly.

148 posted on 03/20/2009 10:06:35 PM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: datura
Eventually the tipping point will come. At what point do we find the resident of the White House to be treasonous?

What about a finding of insanity after the GOP regains control of Congress in 2010? Incapacity, but then... Joe Biden isn't much better. Notice how Hillary's been very quiet lately?

149 posted on 03/20/2009 10:07:05 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: broncobilly

“Some criticize the Republicans for shipping the jobs overseas.”

Taxes, regulations, unions and lawyers are the reasons why manufacturing has been fleeing the US.

Four of dhimmicrats favorite things.


150 posted on 03/20/2009 10:07:17 PM PDT by ebiskit (South Park Republican ( I see Red People ))
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To: broncobilly
Some criticize the Republicans for shipping the jobs overseas.

I think the smarter Republicans are starting to ship themselves overseas!

151 posted on 03/20/2009 10:08:30 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Repeal 16-17
How does the federal government "force" the USAF to fire on fellow Americans? As for your "oath", is it ever possible for members of the federal government to be the "enemies" against whom the USAF is to protect the People? I'm sure this is not your intention, but your comment above gives the impression that the USAF consists of mindless drones. I hope our American soldiers and sailors are able to identify this countries domestic enemies.

I see police officers all over town with shaved bald heads. They look like pro-wrestlers or thugs. If I were chief, I'd demand a clean cut, respectable look so the public isn't intimidated by these officers. I don't doubt that some of these guys would very eagerly uphold the "Obama law" with a gun. Its a new world folks...

152 posted on 03/20/2009 10:11:13 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: central_va

Like it or not the “mob” was elected. Whats going to happen is in a year and a half, people will be fed up with this crap and they will vote a lot of these idiots out of office. Its shaping up to be a replay of 1994.

Look on the bright side. Its been about 8 weeks and all ready people are saying “Darn the Republicans were the party of (more) fiscal responsibility after all”. The country will swing back right and the republicans will act like conservatives till they get complacent and think they have some right to govern and start acting like dems. Then we will go through this same thing all over.

The people that are ranting on this thread are the ones suggesting that there is going to be a civil war. I think threads like this marganilize the entire site.

I never said anyone should be quiet about any of the crap that has happened, and I have been thinking about this since threads like this popped up in the 1990s during Clinton’s administration. He was going to declare martial law and we were all going to have to fight the government.


153 posted on 03/20/2009 10:15:10 PM PDT by hirn_man
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To: hirn_man
The people that are ranting on this thread are the ones suggesting that there is going to be a civil war. I think threads like this marganilize the entire site.

If you don't mind what state do you live in? I ask because the more Northern and Californian a person is, the more likely he/she is to belittle any of that wild eye secessionist talk. Just a hunch.

154 posted on 03/20/2009 10:26:54 PM PDT by central_va (Co. C, 15th Va., Patrick Henry Rifles-The boys of Hanover Co.)
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To: hirn_man
Like it or not the “mob” was elected.

It's not the elected Mob I'm worried about. They are a joke. They are a symptom of the diseased body politic and are irrelevant to me right now. It's my fellow Socialist Americans who inhabit most major cities and have complete control of the Northeast and California. The best way to stop this disease is to cut the diseased limbs off, save as much of the fairly descent areas that are left of the main body.

155 posted on 03/20/2009 10:34:45 PM PDT by central_va (Co. C, 15th Va., Patrick Henry Rifles-The boys of Hanover Co.)
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To: hirn_man
I never said anyone should be quiet about any of the crap that has happened, and I have been thinking about this since threads like this popped up in the 1990s during Clinton’s administration. He was going to declare martial law and we were all going to have to fight the government.

10 years of unchecked illegal immigration have changed everything. Newt did a good job of keep the populist govt. in check in the 90's. There is now nothing between the salivating horde and the treasury. It's Katy bar the door time.

156 posted on 03/20/2009 10:38:06 PM PDT by central_va (Co. C, 15th Va., Patrick Henry Rifles-The boys of Hanover Co.)
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To: LoneStarC; All

On the John Gibson show, Sen. Demint said he believes that Obama is ‘intetionally’ using the financial crisis in order to implement his socialistic agenda.

We must have more elected officials publicly express their revulsion of Obama’s unConstitutional agenda and his naked use of illegal tactics.

Obama is plainly not adhering to the spirit of the Declaration of Independence and it is clearly causing people to lose years of wealth. All for his selfish aims in a marxist power grab.

The case must be made without fear.

Those elected officials that are in agreement with our easily justifiable concerns, must turn the heat way up on their rhetoric.

Politicians must be willing to sacrifice their political career in order to get our grievances vociferously aired.

tahDeetz


157 posted on 03/20/2009 10:42:25 PM PDT by ebiskit (South Park Republican ( I see Red People ))
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To: central_va

I take it you liked my post?
______________
I certainly did!


158 posted on 03/20/2009 10:52:24 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: fr_freak

“The Founders . . . provided for it.

. . . fanatical adherence to the principles of our Constitution is not treason. Support of those in government who subvert and destroy our Constitutional principles would be treason. Fighting for the Constitution would be patriotism, so you have your analysis exactly backwards. The military oath of loyalty is to the Constitution, NOT to the party in power and NOT to any politician. Fighting against those who subvert and destroy the Constitution in the US would be fulfillment of the oath, not a violation of it.”

Well said.

The Founders’ provision you referenced is the Declaration of Independence.

Many are unaware and others choose to ignore that it ‘is’ codified law in the USA.

peace
tahDeetz


159 posted on 03/20/2009 11:02:19 PM PDT by ebiskit (South Park Republican ( I see Red People ))
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To: word_warrior_bob

#128. They come to bait people. People need to be aware and not take the bait. zer0 would love to get FR and all conservative sites shut down.


160 posted on 03/20/2009 11:05:24 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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