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Are Congress and Obama Deliberately Inciting a New US Civil War?
Canadian Free Press ^ | March 20, 2009 | Sher Zieve

Posted on 03/20/2009 2:19:14 PM PDT by LoneStarC

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251 posted on 03/22/2009 8:35:58 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: Dionysius

Relying on the “Civilian Security Force” would be suicidal in a Civil War scenario. About the only thing they could count on would be that the CSF would fight to the death, knowing what was waiting for them if they lost or were taken prisoner. The CSF wouldn’t have the training, morale, and equipment advantages that make insurgent encounters with our troops so incredibly one-sided.
If they really want this, they’d need a significant buy-in from the Armed Forces to win.


252 posted on 03/22/2009 9:39:10 AM PDT by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: LoneStarC
The problem with the article is misunderstanding the problem. As with all media pieces, the writer considers the present action in a vacuum that excludes the past.

The present Democrat actions at the moment of economic crisis are:

1. Massive application of bandaids to self inflicted economic wounds

2. Damn the torpedo full speed ahead reckless attack with eurosocialist dreams.

The later will not happen because the calamity of the former will prevent.

The blind failure will result in the self destruction of American cities as the congregation of feral urbanites burn them down

253 posted on 03/22/2009 9:49:28 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . John Galt hell !...... where is Francisco dÂ’Anconia)
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To: usmcobra

Why isn’t the real question will the military revolt when faced with armed citizens and orders from Obama to kill them?
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Hmmm... I thought that’s what I said...


254 posted on 03/22/2009 11:56:37 AM PDT by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
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To: mad_as_he$$; All

“um not exactly:

I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.”

What comment are you responding to?

I made more than 1 on this thread.

It would be helpful within the confines of proper debate to at least do me the favor of a cut and paste.

Nevertheless, at the risk of anticipating your dissent, the UCMJ does provide for NOT following illegal/unconstitutional orders. . . FYI. . .

No, I don’t know the specific code, but I am aware of basic common sense.

As you should note in your quote, the affirmation to the Constitution comes first, not second, to allegiance to the CoC.

In the same spirit of the placement of the 1st and 2nd Amendments.

“according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice” . . . meaning his/her superiors are subject to the Constitution as well. This portion pertains to those that issue orders.

tahDeetz


255 posted on 03/23/2009 10:05:08 AM PDT by ebiskit (South Park Republican ( I see Red People ))
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To: ebiskit
Since post 202 - mine - says it was in response to 159 -yours - it would be 159.

First you said what the oath was which you were wrong about now you are quoting the UCMJ.

256 posted on 03/23/2009 12:45:50 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Initially, I was referencing to the fact that it is the codified law of the US Declaration of Independence where our inalienable rights are duly guaranteed by God and are eternal.

It clearly restrains those that are granted temporary stewardship over the the Republic.

It is within our unchallenged purview if they perform that task in an illicit manner, that we have the not just the right, but in fact a duty, to disband and abolish the unconstitutional entity into something that falls into the realm of Constitutional principle.

My initial response was referring to where the UCMJ derives it’s authority to allow for dissension in the ranks.

I was just kicking the argument upstairs, so to speak.

tahDeetz


257 posted on 03/23/2009 1:05:53 PM PDT by ebiskit (South Park Republican ( I see Red People ))
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To: LoneStarC

“At first glance this seems a little off-the-wall, but the fact remains that the atrocities against freedom in Obama’s first two months exceed anything done by King george in the decade before 1776.”

You could probably technically say the same thing about the Washington administration. In instituting a federal government, we brought into being a body capable of much more than the King, thousands of miles away, couldn’t practically accomplish.


258 posted on 03/23/2009 1:14:45 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Bearshouse

“they are just useful idiots in the plans of Obama and whoever is controlling him.”

Why does there have to be a conspiracy? Can’t they just be idiots? If you listen closely enough, undistracted by there glowing intentions, they tell us exactly what they’re going to do. If there is a hidden plan, I can’t imagine it being more sinister than the up-front plan. Or if it is, I can’t imagine it working very well. They have a difficult enough job of completing even the simplest of the tasks they set themselves in newspaper headlines.


259 posted on 03/23/2009 1:18:04 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Repeal 16-17

“is it ever possible for members of the federal government to be the ‘enemies’ against whom the USAF is to protect the People?”

Yeah, that’s a mutiny. Happened in Russia during WWI. Didn’t end well. Bu8t let’s not write it off altogether.


260 posted on 03/23/2009 1:19:56 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Diogenesis

“The Post American World”. Good Lord. Does anyone really still doubt what his intentions are?


261 posted on 03/23/2009 3:30:43 PM PDT by MWestMom (Tread carefully, truth lies here.)
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To: AlmaKing

That’s the first thing to make me really smile all day! Hurray for your mom!


262 posted on 03/23/2009 6:56:58 PM PDT by boxlunch
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To: justa-hairyape

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2213010/posts

China Calls For New Reserve Currency
FT.com ^ | 23 Mar 09 | Jamil Anderlini

Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 6:17:35 PM by datura

China’s central bank on Monday proposed replacing the US dollar as the international reserve currency with a new global system controlled by the International Monetary Fund.

In an essay posted on the People’s Bank of China’s website, Zhou Xiaochuan, the central bank’s governor, said the goal would be to create a reserve currency “that is disconnected from individual nations and is able to remain stable in the long run, thus removing the inherent deficiencies caused by using credit-based national currencies”.

(Excerpt) Read more at ft.com ...


263 posted on 03/23/2009 7:04:52 PM PDT by boxlunch
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