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Kissinger meets with Russians, echoes Obama's line
latimes.com ^ | 3/20/09 | Megan K. Stack and Sergei L. Loiko

Posted on 03/20/2009 5:21:32 PM PDT by melt

Reporting from Moscow -- The octogenarian Republican is an improbable go-between to push the diplomatic line of a young Democratic president. But here he was in Moscow on Friday: Henry Kissinger, the architect of Cold War detente with the Soviet Union, meeting informally with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev to try to smooth over a new generation of animosities between the two countries.

Kissinger led a team of prominent former U.S. officials in meetings in Moscow this week, acting on their own but echoing the message of cooperation from an Obama administration that has pledged to "reset" relations that have become tense in recent years. And the young Russian president, still regarded by many observers as an apprentice to Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, spoke encouragingly of efforts to end the acrimony.

"This surprising term 'reset' will, I hope, reflect the essence of the changes we would like to see," Medvedev said. "We are counting on a reset. We hope it takes place."

The Russian president's relatively passive remarks reflected the prevailing Russian contention that relations have soured because of U.S. belligerence and that the onus is on Washington to soften its behavior.

Kissinger, who also met behind closed doors with Putin, assured reporters that he'd found ample ground for cooperation. "I'm happy to report that the differences were not so remarkable and the agreements were considerable," he said. "We believe in the generally optimistic attitude."

The Nixon-era secretary of State was joined on the trip by other prominent officials from previous administrations, including former Secretary of State George Shultz, former Georgia Sen. Sam Nunn, former Defense Secretary William Perry and former Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin.

The White House said the group had not been sent by President Obama. "They're private citizens and not there at the behest of the White House...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: appeasement; bhorussia; coldwar2; kissinger; obama; russia; sovietunion; surrendercrats

How does the saying go?

"Those who forget the lessons of the past--- are doomed to repeat it."

1 posted on 03/20/2009 5:21:32 PM PDT by melt
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To: melt
improbable go-between to push the diplomatic line of a young Democratic president

Simply goes to show how clueless they remain over at the L.A. Times.

2 posted on 03/20/2009 5:23:20 PM PDT by BenLurkin (Mornie` utulie`. Mornie` alantie`.)
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To: melt
Kissinger meets with Russians, echoes Obama's line

How did that happen? Another teleprompter screwup?

3 posted on 03/20/2009 5:23:57 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: melt

I really do not want Kissinger involved with Russia. The last time he negotiated anything resulted in the fall of Saigon.


4 posted on 03/20/2009 5:24:18 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: melt

“Mein Führer ! I can walk !”


5 posted on 03/20/2009 5:24:27 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: melt

Just what we need. The Dynamic Duo: clueless child Bambi and senile bureaucrat Kissinger.


6 posted on 03/20/2009 5:24:52 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Party? I don't have one anymore.)
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To: melt

NWO ALERT! it is Kissinger who has attended almost every Bildeberger meeting in past 30 years...., this has been the most consistent person on the list of attendees, and the CFR, so it makes perfect sense now, especially since Obamas were there in 05/06 **NWO ALERT!


7 posted on 03/20/2009 5:26:52 PM PDT by Kackikat (It isn''t over till it's over, and it s not over yet.....when the TRUMPET sounds I'll be gone...)
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To: melt

Was Strangelove really inspired by Kissinger? In the early 1960s very few people knew who he was.


8 posted on 03/20/2009 5:31:02 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Cementjungle

Yes, it’s those evil teleprompters. They’re taking over the world.


9 posted on 03/20/2009 5:32:28 PM PDT by FourPeas (I am the pink flamingo on the great lawn of life.)
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To: melt
He certainly did a slam-bang job in Vietnam.


10 posted on 03/20/2009 5:42:59 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople
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To: melt
"This surprising term 'reset' will, I hope, reflect the essence of the changes we would like to see," Medvedev said. "We are counting on a reset. We hope it takes place."

Invade an independent country; threaten another independent country; befriend some of the worst dictators in the world and then demand that we the U.S. change.

Unbelievable.

11 posted on 03/20/2009 5:54:41 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: melt
"This surprising term 'reset' will, I hope, reflect the essence of the changes we would like to see," Medvedev said. "We are counting on a reset. We hope it takes place."

Sounds like he wants a do over of the cold war, this time with the West going bankrupt.


12 posted on 03/20/2009 6:00:20 PM PDT by OCC
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To: melt; Alamo-Girl; airborne; auggy; backhoe; bearsgirl90; BigBadWolf; Blogger; bradthebuilder; ...

FROM:

http://listverse.com/politics/16-signs-that-you-live-in-a-tyranny/

16 Signs That You Live In A Tyranny

Published on March 7, 2009 by Jon_Roland - 330 Comments

1. Control of public information and opinion: It begins with withholding information, and leads to putting out false or misleading information. A government can develop ministries of propaganda under many guises. They typically call it “public information” or “marketing”.

2. Vote fraud used to prevent the election of reformers: It doesn’t matter which of the two major party candidates are elected if no real reformer can get nominated, and when news services start knowing the outcomes of elections before it is possible for them to know, then the votes are not being honestly counted.

3. Undue official influence on trials and juries: Nonrandom selection of jury panels, exclusion of those opposed to the law, exclusion of the jury from hearing argument on the law, exclusion of private prosecutors from access to the grand jury, and prevention of parties and their counsels from making effective arguments or challenging the government.

4. Usurpation of undelegated powers: This is usually done with popular support for solving some problem, or to redistribute wealth to the advantage of the supporters of the dominant faction, but it soon leads to the deprivation of rights of minorities and individuals.

5. Seeking a government monopoly on the capability and use of armed force: The first signs are efforts to register or restrict the possession and use of firearms, initially under the guise of “protecting” the public, which, when it actually results in increased crime, provides a basis for further disarmament efforts affecting more people and more weapons.

CONTINUED AT THE LINK ABOVE . . .


13 posted on 03/20/2009 6:50:53 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Some more from the same link:

6. Militarization of law enforcement: Declaring a “war on crime” that becomes a war on civil liberties. Preparation of military forces for internal policing duties.

7. Infiltration and subversion of citizen groups that could be forces for reform: Internal spying and surveillance is the beginning. A sign is false prosecutions of their leaders.

8. Suppression of investigators and whistleblowers: When people who try to uncover high level wrongdoing are threatened, that is a sign the system is not only riddled with corruption, but that the corruption has passed the threshold into active tyranny.

9. Use of the law for competition suppression: It begins with the dominant faction winning support by paying off their supporters and suppressing their supporters’ competitors, but leads to public officials themselves engaging in illegal activities and using the law to suppress independent competitors. A good example of this is narcotics trafficking.

10. Subversion of internal checks and balances: This involves the appointment to key positions of persons who can be controlled by their sponsors, and who are then induced to do illegal things. The worst way in which this occurs is in the appointment of judges that will go along with unconstitutional acts by the other branches.


14 posted on 03/20/2009 6:51:57 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Kackikat

EXCELLENT POINT! How soon till all those jerks who accused everyone worried about these things of being “kooks” and conspiracy theorists come and apologize... Don’t worry - I won’t hold my breath.


15 posted on 03/20/2009 7:35:20 PM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: Quix

Reading through the list...

CHECK
CHECK
CHECK
CHECK
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ETC... ETC...


16 posted on 03/20/2009 7:36:32 PM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: Quix

Thanks for the ping!


17 posted on 03/20/2009 8:48:57 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: LibertyRocks

DREADFUL, ISN’T IT.


18 posted on 03/20/2009 9:51:16 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: LibertyRocks

Me either. It wouldn’t do any good to another country, as these morons are wherever there are banks, or people.


19 posted on 03/21/2009 6:31:36 AM PDT by Kackikat (It isn''t over till it's over, and it s not over yet.....when the TRUMPET sounds I'll be gone...)
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To: LibertyRocks

Me either....it will take so many people by surprise, even godly ones.


20 posted on 03/21/2009 6:32:37 AM PDT by Kackikat (It isn''t over till it's over, and it s not over yet.....when the TRUMPET sounds I'll be gone...)
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To: Quix

Thanks for the ping!


21 posted on 03/22/2009 5:19:46 AM PDT by navygal (Palin 2012, change you will be begging for.)
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To: navygal

And you for your kind reply.


22 posted on 03/22/2009 5:40:33 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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