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The Dirty Little Secret Is Out: Religious Faith and Evolution Are Incompatible
ICR ^ | March 20, 2009 | Frank Sherwin, M.A.

Posted on 03/20/2009 7:59:40 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts

In a recent book review, Jerry Coyne, professor of ecology and evolution at the University of Chicago, admitted that the secular worldview of macroevolution (the development of complex life from “simpler” forms) is at odds with Christian faith...

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To: GodGunsGuts

Why? What if God set the big bang in motion and knew all the laws of nature and thus predetermined everything including everything that has come since and will come after?

Then when he had to explain it to people 2000 years ago he’s like “Hmmm I don’t think these dudes are going to understand DNA and physics why don’t I just tell them a story so they get the basic point that I made everything”?

But whatever.


21 posted on 03/20/2009 8:14:42 PM PDT by exist
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To: broncobilly

“Why are so many so certain that God would not have used evolution for his creation process?
As Isaiah quoted God, “My thoughts are not your thoughts.””

Was that your best shot at a verse to back up your own beliefs?

You can do better than that, but in the meantime you have to toss out the entire book of Genesis along with most of the rest of the Bible.


22 posted on 03/20/2009 8:15:00 PM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - It is possible to be so open minded that your brains leak out.)
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To: Natural Law

What moron accepts evolutionary conclusions from theologions?


23 posted on 03/20/2009 8:15:13 PM PDT by hurly (A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds!)
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To: Gumdrop

Right. St. Thomas Aquinas said that you should not argue faith against fact if it made faith look absurd.


24 posted on 03/20/2009 8:16:18 PM PDT by Lou Budvis (0bama Lied and the Market Died)
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To: Natural Law

Thank you. I saw Grand Torino...and it was indeed awesome.


25 posted on 03/20/2009 8:19:08 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Gumdrop
Also, how then would a scientist define how evolution could evolve from Nothing????

How is this axiomatic, if it isn't so?

26 posted on 03/20/2009 8:19:29 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: broncobilly

[[Why are so many so certain that God would not have used evolution for his creation process?]]

Because irt takes a GREATER faith to beleive in a process that is biologically, mathematically, chemically, and naturally impossible than it does to beleive God said exactly what He meant- When God looked aroudn hte garden for a mate for Adam, and found none- How long would Adam have had to wait while Macroevolution beat al lthe impossible odds against it (Which aren’t just trivial improbabilities, but SERIOUS odds)? Did he live billions of years while Eve ‘evolved from goo? Or did God itnentionally lie to us all when He said Adam had no mate, and that He put Adam to sleep and made Him a mate, and then awoke Adam? How are you goign to explain this away?


27 posted on 03/20/2009 8:19:43 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks GodGunsGuts. Maybe later. :’)


28 posted on 03/20/2009 8:22:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Gordon Greene
I love Bible wars on a Saturday - my scripture quotes are better than your scripture quotes. "If you disagree with me not only are you wrong but also a pagan heathen."

I also love Bible “scholars” who believe it is both literal and metaphorical, depending on their needs.

29 posted on 03/20/2009 8:23:42 PM PDT by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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To: hurly
"What moron accepts evolutionary conclusions from theologions?"

This question is exactly the reason the Vatican recently hosted the conference under the theme "Biological Evolution: Facts and Theories. A critical appraisal 150 years after ‘The Origin of Species’," March 3-7. The summit is part of the Vatican co-sponsored STOQ Project (Science, Theology and the Ontological Quest).

30 posted on 03/20/2009 8:24:41 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: hurly

What moron accepts theological conclusions from evolutionists?


31 posted on 03/20/2009 8:24:56 PM PDT by Marie2 (I don't know what that bird told you, but I'M Brian Fellows)
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To: CottShop
I've always been curious - Eve came from Adam's rib and they had two sons, one of whom murdered the other.

How did we begin to populate the earth?

32 posted on 03/20/2009 8:25:31 PM PDT by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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To: kanawa

Of course you can give respect to them at the same time, you’ll just be in error.

People are in error on all sorts of things.


33 posted on 03/20/2009 8:26:15 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: starlifter

Read the bible instead of spouting a slogan. They had more than two offspring.


34 posted on 03/20/2009 8:27:11 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: broncobilly
"Why are so many so certain that God would not have used evolution for his creation process?"

AMEN!

35 posted on 03/20/2009 8:27:51 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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If God used macroevolution then there is a big problem. Evolution requires death. The bible states clearly that prior to man’s fall there was no death. Not just man’s death but all death. Paul says all of creation groans under the weight of the curse. By one man (Adam) death entered creation, and by another (Jesus) death was ultimately defeated.


36 posted on 03/20/2009 8:28:37 PM PDT by GoDuke
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To: Secret Agent Man

Especially Bible literalism. Thanks for pointing that out. Its self evident, I know, but alot of freeper need to preach otherwise.


37 posted on 03/20/2009 8:28:41 PM PDT by spyone (ridiculum)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Thus spake the expert on fruitflies from Harvard. (He's from Harvard not the fruitflies. Well, maybe.) This guy is to biology and faith what Timmy Geithner is to economics and good government
38 posted on 03/20/2009 8:29:09 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: starlifter

“”If you disagree with me not only are you wrong but also a pagan heathen.””

I’ve been taunted into these little discussions one too many times. You little Evos lick your wounds and act like hurt little puppies while you hurl insults... at least that’s what most of them do. Yet somehow, none of you will give an answer as to what it is you really believe and what the basis for those beliefs are. Odd, I think.

I for one think the Bible is literal except where it is alluded to that the parable is obvious. Unlike evolutionists who bend rib bones and pig skulls into people groups.

Not interested in the circular argument, my friend. I just don’t happen to think Evolution and Christianity can co-exist.


39 posted on 03/20/2009 8:29:19 PM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - It is possible to be so open minded that your brains leak out.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Religious Faith and Evolution Are Incompatible

Disagree completely.
40 posted on 03/20/2009 8:30:13 PM PDT by mysterio
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