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Venezuela military 'seizes ports'
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Posted on 03/21/2009 3:46:08 PM PDT by frankiep

Venezuela's military has taken control of key airports and sea ports under the terms of a move rubber-stamped by parliament a week ago, reports say. The move centralises the running of the country's main transport hubs. President Hugo Chavez has pushed for the move, describing it as "reunifying the motherland, which was in pieces". Critics of Mr Chavez says the plans are unconstitutional, but the National Assembly backed them a week ago, saying they would improve essential services. State-level governments in Venezuela have controlled the country's most important airports, sea ports and major highways since a move towards decentralisation began some 20 years ago, the AFP news agency says. Many of the facilities seized on Saturday have since then fallen under the jurisdiction of state governments often hostile to Mr Chavez. Power struggle Soldiers were seen moving into major sites on Saturday, among them the port at Maracaibo, Venezuela's main oil-producing city - an opposition stronghold in the state of Zulia, AFP reported. Facilities in at least three opposition-run states were seized, according to reports. Since the government lost a number of key seats, including the mayoralty of Caracas, in local elections last year, there have been regular clashes over jurisdiction between local mayors and the national government. The latest change to the law came just weeks after Venezuelans voted for a constitutional amendment granting Mr Chavez and other elected officials the right to stand for election beyond the previous limit of two terms. The socialist leader has indicated on several occasions that he intends to run again for office in 2012 and has talked of remaining in power until 2021.

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KEYWORDS: aiport; airports; chavez; hugochavez; lunatic; port; ports; seaport; seaports; southamerica; transporthub; transporthubs; venezuela
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1 posted on 03/21/2009 3:46:09 PM PDT by frankiep
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To: frankiep

> Critics of Mr Chavez says the plans are unconstitutional.
Sound like anyone we know who lives at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue?


2 posted on 03/21/2009 3:48:32 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (To stand up for Capitalism is to hope Obama fails.)
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To: frankiep

This could be us before we know it...


3 posted on 03/21/2009 3:49:13 PM PDT by Dubh_Ghlase (Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls, It tolls for thee.)
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To: BuffaloJack

Curious how each little Hitler can take his respective country with nary a peep from the majority and only dithering and indecision from the opposition.

Ah, well. Only a short time now before Venezuela seeks Lebensraum.


4 posted on 03/21/2009 3:50:55 PM PDT by Marechal (In Ulcisci, Fidelitas)
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To: Marechal

1933 = 2009


5 posted on 03/21/2009 3:52:16 PM PDT by frankiep (Ron Paul was right)
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To: frankiep

HR 875


6 posted on 03/21/2009 3:53:15 PM PDT by hkp123
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To: frankiep

The parliament or whatever you want to call the Venezuelan gubamint has given him the powers to reign as he will for 18 months. What then?


7 posted on 03/21/2009 3:53:50 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: frankiep

I am convinced , all Venezuelans must be total cowards.
That they can leave this moron in his position and stand by watching as they are turned into commie slaves is beyond me.
The paltry resistance they have so far put up, very unimaginative. And where was our technical help when W had the reins? Can one good Venezuelan come forth to correct history in the right way? I doubt it


8 posted on 03/21/2009 3:56:34 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: frankiep

As we look into our future.............


9 posted on 03/21/2009 4:00:01 PM PDT by Dapper 26
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To: frankiep
A year ago on this board I predicted that Venezuela would see a "Wyatt's toch," within a year. Methinks I'm off by a few months.

5.56mm

10 posted on 03/21/2009 4:03:21 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: frankiep

The future of the USA.


11 posted on 03/21/2009 4:03:53 PM PDT by mgist (Thus in Psalm 103, we pray, "Bless the Lord, O you his angels, you mighty ones who do his word, hear)
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To: frankiep

Time for Hillary to to throw her weight around in our hemisphere, perhaps?


12 posted on 03/21/2009 4:13:24 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: frankiep

Hopefully all the Capitalists have already escaped.


13 posted on 03/21/2009 4:14:33 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: frankiep

So now the KGB will be there to greet anyone trying to sneak out of the country...Can’t have the communist workforce escaping now can we...


14 posted on 03/21/2009 4:14:47 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: LeoWindhorse

What about here. The expansion of Homeland Security is starting to look like the Gestapo.


15 posted on 03/21/2009 4:15:46 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: frankiep

Obama will not speak out about his brother to the south. All totalitarian leaders share certain things in common. Chavez and Obama are practically twins.


16 posted on 03/21/2009 4:17:41 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey (Obama Legacy: The President that put the USA on Welfare.)
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To: Dubh_Ghlase

i was just about to post that... glad to see i’m not the only one that can see it coming.

(i do love FR... gives me some sense of hope for humanity’s intelligence)


17 posted on 03/21/2009 4:18:37 PM PDT by sten
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To: LeoWindhorse
"I am convinced , all Venezuelans must be total cowards. That they can leave this moron in his position and stand by watching as they are turned into commie slaves is beyond me.

What do you think is happening in this country right now. Do you see any signs of dissent? Plently of Venezuelans and protested, plenty have been paid the price for it. Do you see any signs of dissent in this country? Has the media given any of us a voice? I would be afraid to be so sanctimoniously critical if I were you.

18 posted on 03/21/2009 4:23:05 PM PDT by mgist (Thus in Psalm 103, we pray, "Bless the Lord, O you his angels, you mighty ones who do his word, hear)
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To: frankiep
It is just amazing Chavez has been around and pulling stunts like this for 10 years and he hasn't died of lead poisoning! It is simply amazing!
19 posted on 03/21/2009 4:28:19 PM PDT by WellyP (obama must go!)
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To: screaminsunshine
What about here. The expansion of Homeland Security is starting to look like the Gestapo.

I work as a government contractor to an agency of DHS, and in the past have worked for other agencies under the DHS umbrella. You have no idea how right you are.....

20 posted on 03/21/2009 4:36:48 PM PDT by frankiep (Ron Paul was right)
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To: LeoWindhorse
I am convinced , all Venezuelans must be total cowards. That they can leave this moron in his position and stand by watching as they are turned into commie slaves is beyond me.

I wonder the same thing not only about Venezuela but the US also. Hussein and Pelosi/Reid Congress has the exact same intentions. Where is the freakin outrage!

21 posted on 03/21/2009 4:38:28 PM PDT by appleseed
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To: frankiep

I worked dierctly for DHS for 4 years. Yep! No idea!


22 posted on 03/21/2009 4:41:37 PM PDT by appleseed
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To: Marechal
Curious how each little Hitler can take his respective country with nary a peep from the majority and only dithering and indecision from the opposition.

Such has been the is case through all of recorded history. The masses always awake from their slumber too late. While I remain positive about the prospects for this county, it is difficult to argue with history. Which is a proxy for human nature.
23 posted on 03/21/2009 4:43:11 PM PDT by F. dAnconia (We say: "It is, therefore, I want it. They say: "I want it, therefore it is")
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To: frankiep

Snipers wanted.


24 posted on 03/21/2009 4:46:29 PM PDT by Sir Gawain ("Let every man make known what kind of government would command his respect")
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To: appleseed
I wonder the same thing not only about Venezuela but the US also. Hussein and Pelosi/Reid Congress has the exact same intentions. Where is the freakin outrage!

Why it is directed at those "evil, greedy rich people" who have the audacity to accept bonus money that their companies contractually promised to pay to them.

25 posted on 03/21/2009 4:49:09 PM PDT by frankiep (Ron Paul was right)
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To: Dubh_Ghlase; Marine_Uncle

Chavez is hurrying to get done before....you know who...


26 posted on 03/21/2009 4:53:04 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (What happened to my IRAs)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Many who COULD have left the country. There are those who resist, but do so at their peril.


27 posted on 03/21/2009 4:53:11 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified DeCartes))
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To: SumProVita
At least we still have a vote, not that ACORN and Obama are not trying to stack the deck. Venezuela does not have a free and fair vote and they are almost out of money!

Venezuelans are broke and angry. That is not a great combination. I have good reason to think that some within the military are very unhappy. Chavez has to be scared.

28 posted on 03/21/2009 4:59:11 PM PDT by WellyP (obama must go!)
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To: frankiep
That country is solidly communist now. Fake elections. Fake everything. The guy is a communist dictator just like his best friend Castro. This is what Obama wants for us.
29 posted on 03/21/2009 4:59:31 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (Destruction of the US Economy: Obama's Global War on Prosperity!!!)
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To: Marechal
That's funny, FRiend. Believe me, the Venezuelans aren't Germans.....hell, they ain't even Cubans!

I have been doing business with these folks for years....the women are beautiful but the men are soft..one reason acne face has been able to seize power....they may have a big army supplied by the Russians but they aren't going anywhere....especially into Columbia.......but the bad news is nobody has the stones to shoot the bastard.....in fact. friends of mine down there used to ask me "when is Bush going to invade and rid us of Chavez" !...Go figure!

30 posted on 03/21/2009 4:59:56 PM PDT by mick (Central Banker Capitalism is NOT Free Enterprise)
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To: Marechal
Curious how each little Hitler can take his respective country with nary a peep from the majority and only dithering and indecision from the opposition.

The only people who matter are the ones who are willing to fight for what they want. And I do not mean "verbal argument" when I say fight.

There are more underclass in Venezuela and Zimbabwe willing to fight for loot, than there are middle class people willing to fight against being looted.

31 posted on 03/21/2009 5:01:54 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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To: LeoWindhorse

This is, by now, a very old story.

It won’t be any different here, in terms of numbers - but - in our case the remnant will be well-armed.


32 posted on 03/21/2009 5:04:06 PM PDT by Jim Noble (They are willing to kill for socialism...but not to die for it.)
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To: WellyP

His economy can only get worse. I feel sorry for those who are good people and who have to deal with this. Like Hitler...he has a lot of thugs around him. We shouldn’t forget, though, that the Venezuelans are very creative and often find ways to protest and/or resist that are effective enough to keep them hanging in there. ;-)


33 posted on 03/21/2009 5:04:25 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified DeCartes))
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To: BuffaloJack

i was in a store and they had CNN on. Incredibly creepy all AIG bonues. CNN appears to almost always have light skinned young black male hosts on these shows and it looks most like Nation of Islam Farrakhan rally then a objective news show. Obama clones yelling like Olberman and Chrissy Matthews or some third reich rabble rousers.

It is “evil AIG and capitalists” but it is very close to evil “whitey.” The while AIG thing is a smokescreen to cover up what a disaster and marxist O is.

This is going to get ugly fast.


34 posted on 03/21/2009 5:05:06 PM PDT by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: frankiep
Why it is directed at those "evil, greedy rich people" who have the audacity to accept bonus money that their companies contractually promised to pay to them.

Becuase Hussein 0bama and the cowards in congress have deemed it. Doesn't matter that they approved the bonuses and it was written into a contract. All that matters is public perception and outrage. Once the public cried foul, Hussein went into damage control by pumping up Leno's ratings. MSM doesn't report that Hussein and congress approved the bonuses. Only the outrage to it.

35 posted on 03/21/2009 5:12:12 PM PDT by appleseed
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To: SumProVita

I posted on Venezuela, Chavez and an attempt to “cap” the Castros. Here is the link and some of the story, which is still developing:

Newsweek: Chavez, Perez Roque and Lage were involved in a plot against Raul

March 16 - In an article in Newsweek, former Mexican foreign Jorge Castañeda writes that Carlos Lage and Felipe Perez Roque were purged by Raul Castro because they were part of a conspiracy to unseat him.

According to Castañeda, Hugo Chávez was also part of the plot: “There are solid reasons to believe that something along the following lines took place: for at least a month or so, Lage, Pérez Roque and others were apparently involved in a conspiracy, betrayal, coup or whatever term one prefers, to overthrow or displace Raúl from his position. In this endeavor, they recruited—or were recruited by—Venezuela’s Hugo Chávez, who in turn tried to enlist the support of other Latin American leaders, starting with Leonel Fernández of the Dominican Republic, who refused to get involved.

Their reasons for wishing to unseat Rául were mainly turf and power, but they also feared that the leader was beginning to feel threatened by the reaction of the Cuban people to excessive economic and social deprivation, and after his brother’s demise would be unable to control the flow of events. Consequently, he would accept a series of economic and political reforms to normalize relations with the United States, knowing full well that therein lay the only option for immediate improvement in Cubans’ lives. They believed this to be a betrayal of the revolution, and the beginning of the end of its survival.” Newsweek


36 posted on 03/21/2009 5:12:23 PM PDT by WellyP (obama must go!)
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To: WellyP

http://www.newsweek.com/id/189261 as posted on http://www.therealcuba.com/


37 posted on 03/21/2009 5:16:26 PM PDT by WellyP (obama must go!)
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To: Jim Noble

Well armed and well stocked. At least those of us who see it coming.


38 posted on 03/21/2009 5:17:17 PM PDT by appleseed
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To: frankiep

I know. I just hope I have enough time left to complete my get otta dodge plan and head for lower lattitudes. We are heading for totalitarian control.


39 posted on 03/21/2009 5:17:19 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: WellyP

Ahhh yes, it gets even more interesting and this would not surprise me a bit. The majority of Colombians have no love for Chavez either....for OBVIOUS reasons. Several other Latin American countries have noticed his will to dominate....and don’t like it.


40 posted on 03/21/2009 5:24:05 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified DeCartes))
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To: Frantzie

I’ve been travelling this week-I’m in San Diego, going home tomorrow.

Point is, I’ve been in a few airports this week. We don’t watch CNN at home, but, as you know, it’s on 24/7 at every airport gate in America.

I swear, it’s like the telescreen in “1984”. Since we’re not members of the Inner Party, we can’t turn it off.

I was really shocked at the pure propaganda pouring out. Do any real Americans actually WATCH this sh*t?


41 posted on 03/21/2009 5:27:02 PM PDT by Jim Noble (They are willing to kill for socialism...but not to die for it.)
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To: Jim Noble

Did you see this in the San Diago papers or on the TV?

Well known Cuban journalist defects in San Diego

March 21 - A prominent Cuban sports journalist, who was covering the international baseball tournament in San Diego, California, has defected to the United States.

Raul Arce, the sports editor of Juventud Rebelde, was not on the plane that on Thursday brought the Cuban delegation back from San Diego to Havana.

The news about the second defector were confirmed by Cuban dictator, Fidel Castro who in one of his “reflections” written on Friday insulted the two defectors without mentioning their names.

“Of the 75 who traveled to Mexico and San Diego, two poor devils didn’t return,” wrote the dictator.

Earlier this week Yuri Bouza, another journalist who traveled with the Cuban team, appeared on Miami’s television channels saying that he was not returning to Cuba.

Arce, 61 years old, is recognized internationally as one of Cuba’s most experienced sport writers.


42 posted on 03/21/2009 5:28:53 PM PDT by WellyP (obama must go!)
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To: Jim Noble

CNN is just like 1984. I have no idea who watches it but every airport has it. It is total propaganda and I never watch it. Lou Dobbs is a good guy and I wish he would move to Fox.


43 posted on 03/21/2009 5:36:41 PM PDT by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: frankiep
Critics of Mr Chavez says the plans are unconstitutional, but the National Assembly backed them a week ago, saying they would improve essential services.

The government rhetoric sounds familiar.

44 posted on 03/21/2009 5:42:15 PM PDT by HoosierHawk (Democrats - Looting American citizens for generations to come.)
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To: Jim Noble
"Do any real Americans watch CNN?"

Rush had just a small blurb the other day. Top cable news networks:

1 - Fox News
2 - PMSNBC
3 - CNN Headline News
4 - CNN

FWIW...

45 posted on 03/21/2009 5:47:06 PM PDT by HoosierHawk (Democrats - Looting American citizens for generations to come.)
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To: PapaBear3625
"There are more underclass in Venezuela and Zimbabwe willing to fight for loot, than there are middle class people willing to fight against being looted."

Which is....exactly what will happen here with the Marxist thug and his commie cohorts in control, as they summarily destroy the middle class and make us ALL into that same underclass that will be forced to fight for food and necessities. And if Zero and his string-handlers and the UN get their way, we won't even have weapons with which to fight for that food and necessities.

I have but one question. What the hell are we waiting for???

46 posted on 03/21/2009 6:08:20 PM PDT by XenaLee
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...
State-level governments in Venezuela have controlled the country's most important airports, sea ports and major highways since a move towards decentralisation began some 20 years ago, the AFP news agency says. Many of the facilities seized on Saturday have since then fallen under the jurisdiction of state governments often hostile to Mr Chavez.
"Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it" ping.
47 posted on 03/21/2009 6:25:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Typical_Whitey

Come now - he might send Hillary out to call this move “unhelpful.”


48 posted on 03/21/2009 6:26:14 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: M Kehoe
"Wyatt's toch,"

What's that?

49 posted on 03/21/2009 6:27:18 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. -Will Rogers)
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To: Dubh_Ghlase
This could be us before we know it...

We (so far), unlike Venezuelans, still have the Second Amendment. So far.

50 posted on 03/21/2009 6:33:26 PM PDT by wysiwyg (What parts of "right of the people" and "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?)
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