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Self defense is harmful to the environment
Atlanta Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 20 March, 2009 | Ed Stone

Posted on 03/22/2009 5:32:58 AM PDT by marktwain

Do concealed handguns contribute to air pollution? There are more than a dozen national parks and wildlife refuges in Georgia, and now your right to bear arms in Georgia’s national parks and refuges has been swept away by a federal judge in Washington DC. Yesterday, United States District Court Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly ordered Kenneth L. Salazar, Secretary of the Interior, not to implement the new regulation that permits loaded, concealed firearms on national park and wildlife refuges until the Court can make a final decision on whether to enjoin the new regulation permanently. This new regulation had taken effect on January 9, 2009 and removed a ban on such weapons.

The inaptly named "Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence" sued three days before the new rule took effect, claiming that the Department of the Interior, which oversees national parks and wildlife refuges, had failed to study the environmental impact of the new rule. Judge Kollar-Kotelly agreed, finding that the Department of the Interior and the Secretary "abdicated their Congressionally mandated obligation to evaluate all reasonably foreseeable environmental impacts."

So what is the environmental impact that a concealed, holstered pistol might have in a park? Judge Kollar-Kotelly answers this question by explaining "that persons who possess concealed, loaded, and operable firearms in national parks and wildlife refuges will use them for any number of reasons, including self-defense against persons and animals." In other words, Judge Kollar-Kotelly believes that your right to self defense is harmful to the environment. As if to emphasize the point, Judge Kollar-Kotelly states on page 32 of the opinion that the question is not "whether persons carrying concealed firearms will use them more often than the general public, but rather, whether they will use them at all." (Emphasis in original).

"If the firearms will be used, then the Final Rule will obviously have some impact on the environment, whether direct, indirect, or cumulative."

Oddly, the "environmental impact" is not lead poisoning or anything else recognizable as environmental pollution, but a subjective fear that some Brady members have of Americans bearing arms. Several Brady members "are now concerned for their personal safety in parks and refuges and cannot fully enjoy their visits to certain national parks or wildlife refuges because they feel less safe." Judge Kollar-Kotelly held that such irrational fears constituted "irreparable harm."

On the other hand, Judge Kollar-Kotelly declared that her decision will create "no substantial harm" to the right to bear arms. Since the rule banning weapons was in place for 25 years, there is no reason why Americans "would be substantially harmed" by waiting until the Court makes a final decision on the park regulation.

There is no word yet on whether national park rangers will arrest when they discover concealed pistols.

David Codrea, Gun Rights Examiner, is also reporting on this federal decision.

Dave Workman, Seattle Gun Rights Examiner, reports that the Brady Campaign is misrepresenting the process that resulted in the new parks rule.

Randi Menitor, National Parks Examiner, presents the view that, for "now, it’s a good thing that the U.S. District Court blocked the ill-researched and hastily passed concealed carry rule." Until the decision on the merits, "people who fear gun owners can continue to visit the national parks and feel safe."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; bho44; bhobanglist; ccw; envirowhackos; parks; rule
What absurdity. The judge would have the entire country ruled by the EPA, instead of the mere 50% ruled now. The EPA needs severe trimming, and Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly needs to resign.
1 posted on 03/22/2009 5:32:59 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
Colleen Kollar-Kotelly is either too liberal or too stupid to understand that she can not block a decision that restores a proper constitutional right.
2 posted on 03/22/2009 5:36:37 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: marktwain

CLINTON STOOGE ...


3 posted on 03/22/2009 5:37:42 AM PDT by Tarpon (It's a common fact, one can't be liberal and rational at the same time.)
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To: marktwain

Since the rule banning weapons was in place for 25 years, there is no reason why Americans “would be substantially harmed” by waiting until the Court makes a final decision on the park regulation.

This is a perfect example of the ratchet effect of leftwing legislation. Thye’ve violated our constitutional rights for 25 years so there’s no harm in continuing to violate our constitutional rights. Riiight.


4 posted on 03/22/2009 5:37:59 AM PDT by saganite (What would Sully do?)
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To: marktwain

The judge wants to keep our parks safe for serial killers, kidnappers and rapists, like the one who killed Meredith Emerson in Georgia.


5 posted on 03/22/2009 5:40:06 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: marktwain
Most people who carry a firearm onto national or state land do so to protect themselves, hope never to fire a shot, and usually do not fire their weapon.

It isn't like shooting teams are going into Yellowstone and spending a day target practicing and leaving lead and spent brass all over the place.

Anyone who has ever come upon a bear on a hike or camping understands the very sane, very practical, and God-given inalienable right to carry a firearm into the wilderness.

6 posted on 03/22/2009 5:43:18 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (The Stimulus Package: Preamble to the Democrat's new Declaration of In Dependence)
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To: marktwain

From her bio:

“...in May 2002 Chief Justice Rehnquist appointed Judge Kotelly to serve as Presiding Judge of the United States Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court , which is a 7-year appointment.”

America, we have found the leak within the FISA Court.


7 posted on 03/22/2009 5:44:53 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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8 posted on 03/22/2009 5:49:34 AM PDT by arbooz ("Government is actually the worst failure of civilized man." H.L.Mencken)
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To: marktwain

This “judge’s” argument is a classic case of reductio ad absurdum. The same “logic” process could be used to ban ANYTHING from the public parks - up to and including the public itself.

This woman is either an utter moron or an ideologically motivated cynic. In either case, it’s time to stop wondering how such individuals land in these positions of authority and responsibility and focus on how to replace them with properly functioning adults.


9 posted on 03/22/2009 5:52:28 AM PDT by Senator John Blutarski (The progress of government: republic, democracy, technocracy, bureaucracy, plutocracy, kleptocracy,)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

“It isn’t like shooting teams are going into Yellowstone and spending a day target practicing and leaving lead and spent brass all over the place.”

You really are missing the point on this great decision. Supposing someone is trying to protect themselves or their family from a serial rapist in a National Park. What happens if they miss the bad guy and end up shooting a tree. They could potentially harm the tree and maybe even kill it. Someone has to stand up for the rights of trees.


10 posted on 03/22/2009 5:52:43 AM PDT by yazoo
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To: marktwain
Oddly, the "environmental impact" is not lead poisoning or anything else recognizable as environmental pollution, but a subjective fear that some Brady members have of Americans bearing arms. Several Brady members "are now concerned for their personal safety in parks and refuges and cannot fully enjoy their visits to certain national parks or wildlife refuges because they feel less safe." Judge Kollar-Kotelly held that such irrational fears constituted "irreparable harm."

Did everyone miss this part?

11 posted on 03/22/2009 5:54:47 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Wake up people, AIG executives are not the enemy, your Government is!)
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To: marktwain

Isn’t abortion also harmful for the environment?


12 posted on 03/22/2009 6:02:45 AM PDT by heiss
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To: yazoo
Oh my gosh. My bad.

This week I will make an extra big burnt-offering sacrifice to Gaia when I put my recyclables out. I'll also kneel at the curb and beg Her for forgiveness and enlightenment so that I never make such a grievous error again.

13 posted on 03/22/2009 6:05:12 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (The Stimulus Package: Preamble to the Democrat's new Declaration of In Dependence)
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"Several Brady members "are now concerned for their personal safety in parks and refuges and cannot fully enjoy their visits to certain national parks or wildlife refuges because they feel less safe.""

Someone needs to explain to this imbecile (speaking slowly and using small words) that this is how the rest of us have felt for years. She is absolutely clueless. The worst part is that someone was stupid enough to grant her the power and influence of being a judge.

14 posted on 03/22/2009 6:08:14 AM PDT by Pablo64 (Political Correctness is a DISEASE. <==> TRUTH is the CURE.)
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... people who fear gun owners can continue to visit the national parks and feel safe.

Mental therapy for clinical paranoids.

15 posted on 03/22/2009 6:14:52 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

“I’ll also kneel at the curb and beg Her for forgiveness and enlightenment so that I never make such a grievous error again.”

That might do it, but I suggest you make a paper mache tree and keep lit candles around it till the enviro god forgives you.


16 posted on 03/22/2009 6:16:47 AM PDT by yazoo
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To: Pablo64
The Brady Bunch wants to keep our parks safe for rapists, kidnappers and murderers like this dirtbag who killed student Meredith Emerson in a Georgia park.


17 posted on 03/22/2009 6:30:07 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: marktwain

So if natural selection is the base of evolution the liberals are afraid of the Conservatives gaining in the evolution process? I don’t believe in liberals or evolution so you don’t get my guns or my rights.


18 posted on 03/22/2009 6:30:41 AM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: marktwain
Anyone else notice how pervasive it is, that the decision makers of this country seem to be those who would be better off in a padded cell?

Would touching off a round or two in self-defense be more harmful to the environment than building a camp fire, or taking a leak in the weeds?

19 posted on 03/22/2009 6:30:47 AM PDT by FlyVet
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**if natural selection is the base of evolution**

Liberals preach Evolution like a GOSPEL, yet the same LIBERALS set in place Programs Designed to THWART natural selection at EVERY TURN!!


20 posted on 03/22/2009 6:37:04 AM PDT by gwilhelm56 (My 2nd amendment protects my 1st amendment... I carry a GUN because I can't Carry a SOLDIER!)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

“Anyone who has ever come upon a bear on a hike or camping “

Humans are 1000x more dangerous than any animals.


21 posted on 03/22/2009 6:50:59 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I know they are. Timothy Treadwell told me so.


22 posted on 03/22/2009 7:12:54 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (The Stimulus Package: Preamble to the Democrat's new Declaration of In Dependence)
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To: marktwain
Hey judge its called concealed, I will and do always carry my CONCELLED weapon EVERYWHERE I go Malls, Forests, Car, motorcycle, RV,boat, supermarkets and bars. I will take my chances with 12 rather than be carried by 6 thank you.
23 posted on 03/22/2009 7:13:10 AM PDT by bikerman (Obama lied;the Country died.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
Anyone who has ever come upon a bear on a hike or camping understands the very sane, very practical, and God-given inalienable right to carry a firearm into the wilderness.

Amen Brother

24 posted on 03/22/2009 7:18:46 AM PDT by kanawa
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:o) Stories like yours are reasons why I’m ready when enjoying the great outdoors.


25 posted on 03/22/2009 7:26:49 AM PDT by Ladysmith (The trouble with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money, -. M. Thatcher)
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Sorry honey, but should I visit one of our national parks, I will be armed.


26 posted on 03/22/2009 7:52:52 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: Tarpon

Do concealed handguns contribute to air pollution NO they remove felons reduces pollution.


27 posted on 03/22/2009 9:47:11 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: marktwain

This stupid bitch is going to get someone killed.


28 posted on 03/22/2009 2:33:16 PM PDT by I got the rope
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29 posted on 03/22/2009 2:33:56 PM PDT by I got the rope
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