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UK population must fall to 30m, says Porritt [if it is to build a sustainable society.....]
Times Online ^

Posted on 03/22/2009 9:08:32 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

UK population must fall to 30m, says Porritt Jonathan Leake and Brendan Montague

JONATHON PORRITT, one of Gordon Brown’s leading green advisers, is to warn that Britain must drastically reduce its population if it is to build a sustainable society.

Porritt’s call will come at this week’s annual conference of the Optimum Population Trust (OPT), of which he is patron.

The trust will release research suggesting UK population must be cut to 30m if the country wants to feed itself sustainably.

Porritt said: “Population growth, plus economic growth, is putting the world under terrible pressure.

“Each person in Britain has far more impact on the environment than those in developing countries so cutting our population is one way to reduce that impact.”

Population growth is one of the most politically sensitive environmental problems. The issues it raises, including religion, culture and immigration policy, have proved too toxic for most green groups.

However, Porritt is winning scientific backing. Professor Chris Rapley, director of the Science Museum, will use the OPT conference, to be held at the Royal Statistical Society, to warn that population growth could help derail attempts to cut greenhouse gas emissions.

Rapley, who formerly ran the British Antarctic Survey, said humanity was emitting the equivalent of 50 billion tons of CO2 into the atmosphere each year.

“We have to cut this by 80%, and population growth is going to make that much harder,” he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: agw; climatechange; deathcultivation; globalwarming; immigration; porritt
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Cuckoo.......
1 posted on 03/22/2009 9:08:32 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Here it comes. The only way the greens will meet their goals for a final solution to global warming is with Zyklon B.


2 posted on 03/22/2009 9:10:09 AM PDT by MediaMole
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To: Sub-Driver

They could start by kicking out some Muslims


3 posted on 03/22/2009 9:10:19 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Sub-Driver

The answer is “Soilent Green”!


4 posted on 03/22/2009 9:10:34 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: Sub-Driver
I wonder if Porritt for him and his family to be the first ones “down sized”.
5 posted on 03/22/2009 9:10:51 AM PDT by Red Dog #1
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To: Sub-Driver

so, if they start by deporting ALL the illegal immigrants back to Africa and islam, how many left to go?


6 posted on 03/22/2009 9:12:14 AM PDT by silverleaf (Freedom's just another word for "nothing left to lose")
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To: Sub-Driver

I wonder what the population of Manhattan will have to be reduced to for sustainability?


7 posted on 03/22/2009 9:13:41 AM PDT by BigBobber
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To: Sub-Driver

hmmmm - so who decides which 30 million gets to die?


8 posted on 03/22/2009 9:13:44 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (The only time I want a Republican reaching across the aisle is to smack a liberal.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Part of the DNA of Socialism. Human life has no value. Thus the death camps, the gulag, the cultural revolution, Cambodia.


10 posted on 03/22/2009 9:14:56 AM PDT by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: BigBobber

100%


11 posted on 03/22/2009 9:15:08 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: Sub-Driver
The population will never fall as long as the Brits are importing Muslims. They breed like rabbits.

The Brits will not lose population, they will just lose their culture.

12 posted on 03/22/2009 9:15:26 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Sub-Driver

So now I understand the real function of the National Health Service...


13 posted on 03/22/2009 9:16:36 AM PDT by Jagman (Obama: Our winter of discontent made summer by the glorious son of pork!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Jonathan Porritt receiving honorary degree.

Among his other accomplishments, he is the environmental adviser to Prince Charles.

He has the right to be a baron, but so far has refused it. Like Lord Obama, he has two daughters.

14 posted on 03/22/2009 9:17:45 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Sub-Driver

Evil leftists idiots. They let milliosn of “asulum seekers’ aka illegal aliens from places like Islamic countries and Africa flood in and now they are talking about a population explosion. Fools.


15 posted on 03/22/2009 9:18:32 AM PDT by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: MediaMole

There’s always the “Chinese Final Solution.”

One child limits and forced abortions.


16 posted on 03/22/2009 9:22:36 AM PDT by Nextrush (Sarah Palin is the new Ronald Reagan.)
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To: Nextrush
There’s always the “Chinese Final Solution.”

One child limits and forced abortions.

Except for Muslims, of course. They would not want to offend them.

17 posted on 03/22/2009 9:25:30 AM PDT by reg45 (Be calm everyone. The idiot child is in charge!)
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To: Frantzie
Evil leftists idiots. They let milliosn of “asulum seekers’ aka illegal aliens from places like Islamic countries and Africa flood in and now they are talking about a population explosion. Fools.

Are British leftists seeking to engage in some kind of cultural suicide pact?

18 posted on 03/22/2009 9:27:13 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen
hmmmm - so who decides which 30 million gets to die?

Why the environmental Khmer Rouge, of course!

19 posted on 03/22/2009 9:33:02 AM PDT by mojito
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To: Sub-Driver
Yeah sure.

Hey, I will even buy into it when you agree that 100% of all immigration must stop and all illegals must leave.
Sine quo non

20 posted on 03/22/2009 9:34:49 AM PDT by bill1952 (Power is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: Sub-Driver

Sooner or later, liberalism always comes around to the wholesale destruction of human life.


21 posted on 03/22/2009 9:37:02 AM PDT by eclecticEel (I already have a Messiah, I don't need another one.)
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To: reg45

That’s a touchy subject because the UK will probably come close to some sort of conflict as the militant Muslims meet the Nanny State’s Sexual Orientation Regulations.

The Christians are polite and civil when they get harrassed by the police “hate crimes” squad.

But the Muslims can’t be exempted from the regs and I understand right now some in the London area face prosecution for keeping their kids home from school.

The Muslim parents didn’t want their kids in school for a “gay pride” day.

This green population control freak makes my blood boil.

Pardon my comment if it offends, but the UK may have to add an F and a C to it name at this rate. Especially if this bastard’s ideas become policy.

Maybe those “Big Brother Is Watching You” posters should feature Gordon Brown’s face on them.


22 posted on 03/22/2009 9:40:10 AM PDT by Nextrush (Sarah Palin is the new Ronald Reagan.)
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To: Sub-Driver

He wants British society to limit their reproduction... but it’s just the opposite for their muslim population where the sky’s the limit. Good luck buddy because that 30 M will be 100 M the next generation and you will all be wearing burkas and Arafat headgear.


23 posted on 03/22/2009 9:41:29 AM PDT by BigFinn (Obamanation then Obamaggedon.)
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To: bamahead

fyi


24 posted on 03/22/2009 9:41:56 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

They are pretty much past suicide. They killed the Uk but we saw a glimmer recently. Muslims came out to denounce British troops returning home from Iraq or Afghan to H. Central England. I forget the town but N England has lots of muzzies.

Anyway a crowd of English people had enough and started moving towards the Muslims. English cops separated them but the locals had enough. Even old grannies and older men gave chase. It is the GD newspaper and TV media who are destroying the UK and USA with the leftists.

It is happening here. At least the English did not elect a Kenyan-born marxist muslim.


25 posted on 03/22/2009 9:42:36 AM PDT by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: Nextrush

The Chinese solution has only slowed the rate of population growth at great human cost. No society has ever lost half its current population without pandemic, famine, war or genocide.

Those populations that have been exterminated were always minorities who were targeted by a stronger foe. It has always been bloody and violent.

A call for a 50% reduction in the current population is a call for violence.


26 posted on 03/22/2009 9:47:49 AM PDT by MediaMole
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To: MediaMole

That’s what I was thinking. Who is he going to kill to make the society “sustainable”? Hint—it won’t be Muslims or other PC-protected groups.


27 posted on 03/22/2009 9:52:40 AM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: Nextrush

We need to encourage the greens to sacrifice themselves for hte cause, to set an example.

We just won’t follow that example ourselves, as they have done in the past, ie, telling people to sacrifice themselves and their things but not doing it themselves.


28 posted on 03/22/2009 9:55:00 AM PDT by Niuhuru (Fine, here's my gun, but let me give you the bullets first. I'll send them to you through the barrel)
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To: rbg81

Current population 61million. Need to kill 31 million and everything will be ok. If we start with those receiving retirement pensions, the defecit will turn into a surplus and their debt problems will disappear. Pure genius.


29 posted on 03/22/2009 9:59:06 AM PDT by spyone (ridiculum)
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To: Sub-Driver

As I was just suggesting on another thread, the PC world savers ought to start a suicide drive. Get 0’s teleprompter to come up with the right slogans, something to push the leftist lemmings over the cliff, or convince the gullible gooney loons that they will get 72 0bama dolls in heaven, if they off themselves for the good of the rest of us.


30 posted on 03/22/2009 10:08:40 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Sub-Driver

Doable if they halt immigration.


32 posted on 03/22/2009 10:19:56 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Sub-Driver

I guess his role model is Cambodia.

Also, let me know if he heads to the mosques to tell the Muzzies to stop having kids (the British are already there), and then let me know when his funeral is.


34 posted on 03/22/2009 10:41:18 AM PDT by BobL (Drop a comment: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2180357/posts)
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To: Sub-Driver

UK population must fall to 30m

That is what their health system is geared for.

Coming to the US soon.


35 posted on 03/22/2009 10:45:35 AM PDT by chainsaw (If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free! -- P.J..)
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To: Sub-Driver

The muzzl’ems will never go for this.


36 posted on 03/22/2009 10:51:57 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault
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To: Sub-Driver

The British greenie-weenie could never live in Hong Kong; he’d have to think it was a mirage it is so “unsustainable”.


37 posted on 03/22/2009 11:11:12 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: rabscuttle385

And here come the eugenicists.

This is getting really scary.


38 posted on 03/22/2009 11:28:52 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Sub-Driver

Send the Muslims back to their s*t-hole countries, then.


39 posted on 03/22/2009 12:17:29 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: bamahead
When you do not believe in the sovereignty of God, you believe in the sovereignty of Man. Since there is no such thing as Man save as a collection of 7.5 billion cranky and headstrong people, all thinking differently, someone wiser and stronger must do the thinking for us. All hail the would be nobles and kings of the environmental-UN-bureaucratic leadership, which Tom Kratman so brilliantly described in “A Desert Called Peace” and “Carnifex”.
40 posted on 03/22/2009 12:18:07 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (Kicking and Screaming into the Kingdom of Heaven!)
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A) It’s an admission that there is no way they can achieve their promised 2050 emissions cuts without turning Britain into stone age New Guinea. So, if you can’t raise the bridge, lower the river.

B) I’d love to know the precise methodology they used to calculate this figure
but I bet there are computer models involved. Sorry, sir, no children for you—see, this printout says so.


42 posted on 03/23/2009 9:55:52 AM PDT by denydenydeny ("I'm sure this goes against everything you've been taught, but right and wrong do exist"-Dr House)
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To: Sub-Driver

Well Jonathan, put your money where your mouth is.


43 posted on 03/23/2009 9:56:48 AM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: Sub-Driver

JONATHON PORRITT, Mr. JONATHON PORRITT, please report to the showers for delousing.


44 posted on 03/23/2009 6:34:06 PM PDT by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: Sub-Driver
This is the reason liberals embrace homosexuality and abortion. Unfortunately, they also embrace illegal immigration and welfare, both of which just encourage increasing population.

The arrogance of these idiot greenies never ceases to amaze me.

45 posted on 03/24/2009 6:35:44 AM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter(the Godfather of Terror) allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Which is why the US and Europe have been pushing euthanasia - a nicer term for what is essentially Hitler's "Final Solution". Who will they kill first? The old, terminally ill, disabled, and mentally ill.

Dying will become a duty in the Brave New World.

46 posted on 03/24/2009 8:39:03 AM PDT by NoPrisoners (Huh? You mean he's NOT the messiah??? / sarcasm)
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To: Sub-Driver; AAABEST; AdamSelene235; AnnaZ; Askel5; backhoe; BlackElk; Brian Allen; ...
I haven't bothered with a Death Cultivation Ping in quite some time. There are so many stories that would fit. Pinging them all would reduce the meaning of this ping list to just another list of outrages. So I have avoided doing that.

This story, however, is a bit more ominous.

A major Western government has openly stated it's hatred of it citizens and the other nations of the West are going to be observing the result.

and 1.Will Great Britain's subjects finally act to end the influence of its highly seated misanthropes? Or, more worrisome, 2. is this openness a sign that the government believes (and maybe all its associate nations believe) that they are untouchable and “there is nothing that our moronic populace can do about it?”

How many on this list see the danger that the second option is being tested, intended or not?

47 posted on 03/24/2009 4:26:45 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (Yesterday's Left = today's status quo. Thus "CONSERVATIVE": a conflicted label for battling tyranny.)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla

Thanks for the ping!


48 posted on 03/24/2009 7:05:12 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla

I think that is quite likely.


49 posted on 03/24/2009 8:12:45 PM PDT by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: Sub-Driver

You have to give these murderous b*st*rds full points for consistency.

They know where they’re going - see tagline.


50 posted on 03/25/2009 12:39:24 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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