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CNN BREAKING - Plane crash in Butte, Montana
Me | 3/22/09 | GeorgiaDawg32

Posted on 03/22/2009 3:44:57 PM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32

No info yet, breaking headline on CNN TV..


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California; US: Montana
KEYWORDS: aerospace; butte; california; montana; orville; plane; planecrash; turbopropplane
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Flipping channels, came across this..prayers up for all onboard..
1 posted on 03/22/2009 3:44:57 PM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

FAA saying 17 dead according to FOX


2 posted on 03/22/2009 3:45:55 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Prayers going out.


3 posted on 03/22/2009 3:46:15 PM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Weather very unsettled around here now - snow rain, wind squalls.


4 posted on 03/22/2009 3:47:19 PM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

If I remember correctly, the airport is atop a butte.


5 posted on 03/22/2009 3:47:20 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

http://www.ktvm.com/montana_news.php?id=0bf5a4b028209b7407b10e406880a01c

17 DEAD IN BUTTE PLANE CRASH
Author: Staff Reports and Associated Press

A Federal Aviation Administration spokesperson says 17 people were killed in a plane crash in Butte.

The NewsChannel’s Keith Bertog is on the story and will have updates.


6 posted on 03/22/2009 3:48:10 PM PDT by maggief
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

nothing on cnn or fox now. when they get more details i guess.


7 posted on 03/22/2009 3:48:32 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Oh dear, praying.
Wondering what type of plane, 17 dead.


8 posted on 03/22/2009 3:49:54 PM PDT by mojo114
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KTVQ.com
http://www.ktvq.com

http://www.ktvq.com/global/story.asp?s=10050868

“Plane crashes in Butte”
Posted: March 22, 2009 03:30 PM
Updated: March 22, 2009 03:31 PM

Reporting from KXLF in Butte

SNIPPET: “Emergency crews are at the scene of the plane crash Butte that happened at about 3:00 p.m. on afternoon.

The twin-engine plane went down in the Holy Cross Cemetery near Bert Mooney Airport and officials tell us that there are fatalities...”


9 posted on 03/22/2009 3:50:15 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29828359/

http://www.mtstandard.com/articles/2.../03/22/breaking/hjjajghhidgdia.txt

10 posted on 03/22/2009 3:51:05 PM PDT by NCjim ("Lies have to be covered up, truth can run around naked." - Johnny Cash)
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To: thefactor

This is quite a string of coincidences. I heard 2 navy ships collided in the strait of hormuz during the week, now plane crashes, hubby mentioned a sub collision a while back. Starting to add up to alot of incidences. Hubby was starting to wonder if there was test runs of radar jamming or other interference. He is ex army, and said he felt it would be highly unlikely about the navy ship collisions......


11 posted on 03/22/2009 3:51:46 PM PDT by wombtotomb (I would rather die on my feet as a free man, than live on my knees as a slave)
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To: Cindy

BUTTE, Mont. - A Federal Aviation Administration spokesman says 17 people are dead after a plane crashed while approaching the airport in Butte.

Spokesman Mike Fergus says the single engine turboprop plane departed from Orville, Calif., at about 11 a.m. Pacific time. The pilot had filed a flight plan showing a final destination of Bozeman.

Fergus says the pilot canceled his flight plan at some point and headed for Butte. The plane crashed about 500 feet from the airport while attempting to land and caught fire.

(snip)

Fergus says the plane was registered to Eagle Cap Leasing Inc. in Enterprise, Oregon, but he doesn’t know who was operating the plane.

(snip)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29828359/


12 posted on 03/22/2009 3:52:14 PM PDT by maggief
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Prayers and RIP for the victims.


13 posted on 03/22/2009 3:54:45 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: wombtotomb
I heard 2 navy ships collided in the strait of hormuz during the week, ... hubby mentioned a sub collision a while back.

If "a while back" is a couple of days, I think these are the same incident.

He may be thinking of an incident a few days earlier in which a Navy cruiser ran aground in Hawaii.

14 posted on 03/22/2009 3:56:51 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

Sectional chart here:

http://skyvector.com/#46-2-3-3506-2740

It’s hard to tell.


15 posted on 03/22/2009 3:59:15 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

The ships in Hormuz, this week. The subs colliding, over a month ago. The ship running arground in Hawaaii, I had not heard of that.....


16 posted on 03/22/2009 3:59:43 PM PDT by wombtotomb (I would rather die on my feet as a free man, than live on my knees as a slave)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29828359/

He says preliminary reports indicate the dead include numerous children.

The Montana Standard reported on its Web site that the plane crashed in the Holy Cross Cemetery, just south of the airport. An eyewitness told the Standard that the plane was doing steep angle turns and then went into a nose dive.


17 posted on 03/22/2009 4:01:30 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: maggief

Thank you Maggie F for the additional info.


18 posted on 03/22/2009 4:01:44 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
FOX NEWS: The plane was en route to Butte from Oroville, Calif. before it crashed into Holy Cross cemetary, officials told The Montana Standard.

The small, single-engine plane may have been carrying several young children who may have been en route for a ski vacation, The Montana Standard reported.

It is unclear if anyone on the ground was injured.

An eyewitness to the crash told The Montana Standard the plane was doing steep angle turns and then went into a nose dive.

19 posted on 03/22/2009 4:02:00 PM PDT by Zakeet (Thou Shalt Not Steal -- Unless thou art the government)
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To: wombtotomb

I don’t recall a sub collision a month ago.

With all the other cr@p going on, I could easily have forgotten or missed it entirely.

The collision in the Straits of Hormuz involved a sub.


20 posted on 03/22/2009 4:02:10 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Now that I’m thinking it over, perhaps it’s Billings MT airport that is on the mesa. I seem to recall driving down the butte to a college town.


21 posted on 03/22/2009 4:02:24 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Flightaware has a flight from OVE-BTM...a Pilatus PC-12

N128CM (registration) (photos)
EAGLE CAP LEASING INC
ENTERPRISE OR


22 posted on 03/22/2009 4:02:48 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (I hear the words of Jefferson louder and louder as each day passes)
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To: DuncanWaring
These plane crashes along with the volcano eruption in the Indian ocean,earthquakes on the pacific rim. Ahhh it's nutin, let's continue to pray to the messiah obamma</s>
23 posted on 03/22/2009 4:04:22 PM PDT by shadeaud ("If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten." -- George Carlin st)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

It may be Billings - Butte’s airport is weird though - it’s down on “the flats” .. but the approach is spooky ... I’d fly in there for business quite a bit in 2002 - 2003 ... Quite often in the winter if the weather was bad they’d divert to Bozemen or Helena and bus folks in ...


25 posted on 03/22/2009 4:11:19 PM PDT by pamlet
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To: DuncanWaring

I think a sub and a ship are two different things.


26 posted on 03/22/2009 4:13:42 PM PDT by Netizen
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How awful. The poor parents of those children. God almighty be with them. Truly tragic.


27 posted on 03/22/2009 4:15:37 PM PDT by Halls (I'm with Rush, I want Obama to fail!)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

28 posted on 03/22/2009 4:17:20 PM PDT by JennysCool (Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action - Ian Fleming)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

I wonder when one of these plane wrecks will be one with political connections Like JFK jr. or Ron Brown It could be any day now


29 posted on 03/22/2009 4:19:23 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: DuncanWaring

Without him able to give me a source, I don’t doubt it was the same incident. He doesn’t follow the news and come on here, thats my job to keep him informed. He mentioned it in passing. Your account is probably more accurate :)


30 posted on 03/22/2009 4:19:27 PM PDT by wombtotomb (I would rather die on my feet as a free man, than live on my knees as a slave)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

BTTT!


31 posted on 03/22/2009 4:20:03 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Netizen

Generally, they are.

One of each collided with each other in the Straits of Hormuz a few days ago.

Sort of like “taking two to tango”.


32 posted on 03/22/2009 4:20:41 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

The Billings airport is on a mesa which overlooks most of Billings. I don’t now about Butte.


33 posted on 03/22/2009 4:22:21 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If Liberals would pay their taxes, there would be no deficit..)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Does anyone know if these kids were actually from Oroville? This is very important for me.


34 posted on 03/22/2009 4:23:21 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Reagan is back, and this time he's a woman.)
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To: Netizen
Right. Navy guys sometimes call subs "boats".

Correct me if I'm wrong, Navy FReepers.

35 posted on 03/22/2009 4:24:48 PM PDT by LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot ("If you don't have my army supplied, and keep it supplied, we'll eat your mules up, sir"-Gen.Sherman)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Fergus says the plane departed from Orville, Calif. and that the pilot had filed a flight plan showing a final destination of Bozeman. The pilot had canceled his flight plan at some point and headed for Butte.


36 posted on 03/22/2009 4:29:24 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

EAGLE CAP LEASING INC , PILATUS PC-12/45
PILATUS | PC-12/45 | ENTERPRISE | fixed wing single engine | EAGLE CAP LEASING INC

Serial number: 403
N-number: 128CM
Cerificate issued: Friday, September 13, 2002
Manufactured year: 2001


37 posted on 03/22/2009 4:30:29 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: buccaneer81

How would that plane hold 17 passangers?!


38 posted on 03/22/2009 4:31:23 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: wombtotomb

Oh my.


39 posted on 03/22/2009 4:32:06 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: Cindy
This tragedy follows another small plane accident in Montana earlier in the week in which Sparky Imeson, a well-known aviator and aviation author, perished. The details are quite ironic:

64-year-old Imeson took off alone from the Bozeman airport. Two friends say he had intended to document the site of a 2007 crash in the Elkhorn Mountains that left him with a compression fracture to his back, broken ribs, a broken toe and cuts on his head.

Killed revisiting the site of his own previous near-fatal crash. Sounds like a Twilight Zone episode.

40 posted on 03/22/2009 4:32:21 PM PDT by JennysCool (Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action - Ian Fleming)
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To: maggief

Aircraft Pilatus PC-12 (single-turboprop) (PC12/G)
Origin Oroville Muni (KOVE - track or info)
Destination Bert Mooney (KBTM - track or info)
Other flights between these airports
Route FMG J7 LKT (Decode)
Date Sunday, Mar 22, 2009
Duration 2 hours 26 minutes
Status Arrived over 2 hours ago (track log)
Scheduled Actual/Estimated
Departure 11:40AM PDT 11:10AM PDT
Arrival 03:09PM MDT 02:36PM MDT
Speed 260 kts
Altitude 25000 feet


41 posted on 03/22/2009 4:32:26 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: ElkGroveDan

“We think that it was probably a ski trip for the kids,” Fergus said.

Fergus said the plane was registered to Eagle Cap Leasing in Enterprise, Ore., but he didn’t know who was operating the plane.


42 posted on 03/22/2009 4:33:30 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

43 posted on 03/22/2009 4:33:38 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: JennysCool

Yes, I saw that while researching.
Very sad.


44 posted on 03/22/2009 4:33:45 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot

subs are ALWAYS called “boats”..not just sometimes..


45 posted on 03/22/2009 4:34:05 PM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (A democrat will break your leg, then hand you a crutch and take credit for your being able to walk.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Julie Banderas on FOX had a former NTSB employee on discussing the crash .

He said if this was a single engine plane that 17 passengers are a LOT (as in, too many). Then she comes back and tells him it’s a double- so he says - ok- that makes more sense. THEN she comes back and says- no it WAS a single engine- he says even if there were children aboard 17 more than the plane is configured to carry.


46 posted on 03/22/2009 4:35:14 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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47 posted on 03/22/2009 4:35:14 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

OMG, you should see the Fed Ex plane that crashed. Fox News has the video.

It bounced and then burst into flames. It’s a charred mess.


48 posted on 03/22/2009 4:35:32 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: wombtotomb

He is referring to the British and French subs that collided. Radar jamming? You really need to get out and get some fresh air.


49 posted on 03/22/2009 4:35:50 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: KeyLargo; SkyDancer

Over here


50 posted on 03/22/2009 4:37:59 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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