Skip to comments.Proposed easing of concealed-weapons law draws fire
Posted on 03/23/2009 7:46:05 AM PDT by CarmichaelPatriot
What issue could unite a Republican lawmaker from Southern California and a 46-year-old lesbian from Natomas?
Guns, of course.
A bill introduced in the state Assembly last month aims to make it easier for Californians to obtain a concealed weapons permit.
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Personal protection is an insufficient reason to have a CCW, according to the Sacramento County Sheriff. What a surprise. Chiefs and Sheriffs don’t want us carrying.
California, going “shall issue”? Whodathunkit?
Considered, sure. Passed into law? Good luck.
It’s a “shall issue” bill.
Californians with personal responsibility. What a concept. You can bet the terminator will veto this one if he gets a chance. Hitler didn’t like armed citizens out of uniform.
I wouldn’t hold my breath on this making it through the CA legislature.
Oh, I’m not. And it doesn’t affect me anyway. I just thought it was interesting that they were even considering it.
You should NEVER have to asl permisdsion, to exercise a RIGHT!
Good point there.
I can just imagine what O.J. could have done in the past if he were able to carry a pistol.
I have visions of death and mayhem.
Thank God it's only a vision.
I betcha the Governator vetos any statewide shall issue laws.
But then again if Nicole Brown had been packing heat she’d could still be alive today.
Maybe in the Golden State, but not where I live. The then-sheriff of my county happily signed my application with the remark, "We need more law-abiding gun owners." He's now the US Congressman from my district, but alas has a D behind his name.
“I betcha the Governator vetos any statewide shall issue laws”
Why not ,his dad was involved in that friendly gathering of Socialists, gun control worked in his hometown
FROM ARNOLD EXPOSED.COM
“Arnold openly supported Kurt Waldheim, Former UN chief and a former Austrian politician who participated in Nazi atrocities during World War II. Schwarzenegger’s name remained on Waldheim’s campaign posters, even after allegations of Waldheim’s war crimes were brought to light. Waldheim was even invited to Arnold’s wedding.
His father was a member of the Austrian Nazi Party who volunteered for the infamous SA and became a ranking officer. In the early ‘90s, Spy Magazine printed his father’s Nazi Party membership in their magazine. “
My point being, ban ALL the guns and some people will STILL do others harm.
Thus, I agree with you, Nicole most likely would be alive and O.J. dead.
In other words, The lives of every Californian is not worth giving up control over the ability to deny carry permits to law abiding citizens.
Make no mistake about it. It is not about guns. It is about control.
With an overwhelmingly liberal legislature, a fat hog has more of a chance at a slaughter house.
That comment makes me furious!
True. I used to be a cop and most brass in CA don’t want the “civilians” carrying.
My eyes must not be working properly today. I could have sworn I read that an easing on obtaining a CCW in CA is being proposed!!! Did the world just turn upside down?
What a BS argument, talk about a strawman. How about this a-hole; if Brown or Goldman had been armed OJ would be a dead attempted murderer. And no he would not be eligible since he had a prior history of domestic abuse which is a disqualifier.
My 82-year-old mom and 89-year-old stepdad both carry. Both aced their targeting tests two weeks ago when renewing. God bless both of them!!
Right after Obumbum becomes an albino!
Politics does create strange bedfellows.
Having the gun and having the skill to use it well in a life or death situation are two different things. If OJ had a gun and his wife a gun as well as my ccw course she'd be a rich widow today. Think she might want that chance? Why don't we ask the victims in the California crime statistics database if they'd have liked to have had the option of carrying a concealed handgun under training before they'd been victimized? There's bound to be tons of assumption here, many of those victims (like Nicole Simpson) are deceased.
Chiefs and Sheriffs are not LEO’s, they are first and foremost politicans looking to further their own cause.
There have been “shall issue” bills before and this one will most likely be DOA like the rest of them.
They have not struck out the good cause portion in the entirety of the bill and here always is the good moral character loop hole.
This bill is in its infancy and needs quite a bit more tightening up. It still is a glimmer of hope but I will believe it when I see its on governors desk
That is the sign my wife carried during the 2nd Amendment Sisters counterprotest to the Million Mom March in 2000.
It was a big hit with the rank and file L.A.Co Sheriffs Deputies. and LAPD.
the juice might have killed his wife or some craziness like that. Its a good thing that he didn’t have a gun, who knows what would have happened
O.J. was able to carry a pistol. Granted, he would have been in violation of the law. I can only think of two reason why he didn't:
1) He didn't wish to.
2) He wanted to, but was deterred from doing so by his respect and/or fear of the law.
Given what we know of the man, I think we can cross #2 off the list. That only leaves #1.
Nicely put. And I have a stock answer for the law enforcement administrators who seem chronically afraid of an armed public: "You're fired."
That is exactly what it does. It strikes the good cause clause, at least according to the link YOU posted.
It’s time for a Heller lawsuit.
Why do they need a targeting test?
Read farther down. They strike the “good cause” initially in SEC. A but leave it in SEC B and C. Thats why I said its in its infancy and needs work
Correct. Personal protection is ALL there is.
Permission is for privileges.
They must not live in Virginia.
Exactly right. Chiefs usually serve at the whim of the mayor.
Also in SF Sheriff Mike Hennesey is supposedly not a LEO but a lawyer. He was serving as sheriff when the law changed to require LEO status for the sheriff position and he was grandfathered in. If anyone knows differently please correct me.
“Why do they need a targeting test?”
It’s part of the requirement to get a CCW permit in CA.
It's for the GREATER GOOD.
"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." ~Hillary, now Sec/State.
There are sheriffs and chiefs who are happy to have law abiding citizens carry.
Maybe not where you live, but that's what U-Haul is for.
Now this is a new twist on gay rights and the 2nd ammendment. The gay lobby just might be the ones to get this bill passed.
This seems to miss the point that, even with complete gun control preventing OJ from getting a gun (and which exists only in FairyLand), Nicole Brown Simpson & Ronald Goldman would have been just as dead.
They were slaughtered with knives, not guns.
See, people who wish to do you harm will find a way to do it, regardless of whether they have a gun or not.
Against a much larger combatant, say... an ex-professional football player, for example, someone small and female would have only had anything approaching a sure chance with a gun.
So, while OJ could have had a gun before or after the murders, he didn't have to have one to brutally slaughter two innocent people. Nicole Brown Simpson and/or Ronald Goldman could have used them, but didn't have them to use.
I hope it survives and thrives, but California tends to be quite a bit zany when it comes to preserving pertinent individual freedoms.
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