Proposed easing of concealed-weapons law draws fire

Sacramento Bee ^ | Mar. 23, 2009 | Stan Oklobdzija

[CarmichaelPatriot]

What issue could unite a Republican lawmaker from Southern California and a 46-year-old lesbian from Natomas?

Guns, of course.

A bill introduced in the state Assembly last month aims to make it easier for Californians to obtain a concealed weapons permit.

[WayneS]

They must not live in Virginia.

[Polynikes]

“Chiefs and Sheriffs are not LEO’s, they are first and foremost politicans looking to further their own cause.”

Exactly right. Chiefs usually serve at the whim of the mayor.
Also in SF Sheriff Mike Hennesey is supposedly not a LEO but a lawyer. He was serving as sheriff when the law changed to require LEO status for the sheriff position and he was grandfathered in. If anyone knows differently please correct me.

[ScottinVA]

“Why do they need a targeting test?”

It’s part of the requirement to get a CCW permit in CA.

[SunkenCiv]

California

[MSF BU]

Oh, that I understood intuitively. If it's like the scams they run in Massachusetts, it's at the discretion of the chief. In Randolph Massachusetts, you had to go through a program run by the Chief's pal, at a steep cost. Prior military training, courses run by the NRA or even the Mass State Police didn't count. The farce got so bad that you had decades long gun owners, many of whom had seen combat in one or more of the major wars, having to waste half a Saturday and several days pay for the privilege of owning a gun. Ridiculous.

[Zeppelin]

Yeah, if personal protection isn't enough, what would be? Saving your own life isn't sufficient to carry a gun?

It's for the GREATER GOOD.

"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." ~Hillary, now Sec/State.

[mountainbunny]

Personal protection is an insufficient reason to have a CCW, according to the Sacramento County Sheriff. What a surprise. Chiefs and Sheriffs don’t want us carrying.

Please.

There are sheriffs and chiefs who are happy to have law abiding citizens carry.

Maybe not where you live, but that's what U-Haul is for.

[Clovis_Skeptic]

Among supporters of Knight's bill is Deanna Sykes, co-founder of the Sacramento chapter of Pink Pistols, an international group that advocates gun ownership by gays and lesbians. Their slogan: "Armed gays don't get bashed."

Now this is a new twist on gay rights and the 2nd ammendment. The gay lobby just might be the ones to get this bill passed.

[mountainbunny]

If the changes proposed by the bill were already in effect, even O.J. Simpson would have been eligible for a concealed weapons permit in California – prior to his recent felony conviction in Nevada, McGinness said.

This seems to miss the point that, even with complete gun control preventing OJ from getting a gun (and which exists only in FairyLand), Nicole Brown Simpson & Ronald Goldman would have been just as dead.

They were slaughtered with knives, not guns.

See, people who wish to do you harm will find a way to do it, regardless of whether they have a gun or not.

Against a much larger combatant, say... an ex-professional football player, for example, someone small and female would have only had anything approaching a sure chance with a gun.

So, while OJ could have had a gun before or after the murders, he didn't have to have one to brutally slaughter two innocent people. Nicole Brown Simpson and/or Ronald Goldman could have used them, but didn't have them to use.

[Patriot777]

I hope it survives and thrives, but California tends to be quite a bit zany when it comes to preserving pertinent individual freedoms.

[EGPWS]

They were slaughtered with knives, not guns.

See, people who wish to do you harm will find a way to do it, regardless of whether they have a gun or not.

Thank you mb!

Somebody finally gets it's.

[EGPWS]

"Somebody finally gets it."

That's better.

[unixfox]

FREE men don’t need permits!

[goldstategop]

Shall Issue in California? Dream on... the odds of it happening are slim to none.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[2harddrive]

Is she part of the Pink Pistols group?

[neverdem]

bump & a BANG!

[television is just wrong]

they pulled the article and archived it .

[2harddrive]

By the way, the Full Auto Ban Amendment to the 1986 “Firearms Owners Protection Act” never REALLY passed! It was just on a voice vote, and the Nays WAY outweighed the Yeas on the Amendment’s adoption ballot! I heard it! Tip O’Neal just PROCLAIMED that it passed, to the GASPS of many in attendence, and the minority Repubs could not challenge him because of the parlimentary rules in effect at the time! HONEST! History!