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'Cold Fusion' Rebirth? New Evidence For Existence Of Controversial Energy Source
Science Daily ^ | Mar. 23, 2009 | American Chemical Society

Posted on 03/23/2009 12:42:14 PM PDT by FlameThrower

ScienceDaily (Mar. 23, 2009) — Researchers are reporting compelling new scientific evidence for the existence of low-energy nuclear reactions (LENR), the process once called "cold fusion" that may promise a new source of energy.

(Excerpt) Read more at sciencedaily.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canr; cmns; coldfusion; energy; lenr; physics; stringtheory
Science may be scientific, but is also, too often, a religion. As in belief in global warming or the disbelief in cold fusion.
1 posted on 03/23/2009 12:42:14 PM PDT by FlameThrower
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To: FlameThrower

Aw Jeez....


2 posted on 03/23/2009 12:43:56 PM PDT by BenLurkin (Mornie` utulie`. Mornie` alantie`.)
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To: FlameThrower
Science may be scientific, but is also, too often, a religion

And it seems to have become much more in that way 

3 posted on 03/23/2009 12:44:40 PM PDT by valkyry1
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To: FlameThrower

Maybe the cold fusion contract Intrade is a bargain...

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4 posted on 03/23/2009 12:49:54 PM PDT by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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To: FlameThrower

“Low energy” tells me this is interesting only from a scientific perspective, not an economic one.


5 posted on 03/23/2009 12:50:28 PM PDT by DManA
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To: FlameThrower

About a year ago I read an article that while the total reaction was slightly positive that there were small areas of much greater reaction. They were trying to find out what made local greater reactions.


6 posted on 03/23/2009 12:51:08 PM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: FlameThrower
Although I didn't want the government to throw Trillions of dollars at anything -- if we simply MUST spend huge amounts of money, then a "Manhattan Project" approach aimed at making fusion power a reality would seem to be a reasonable choice, based on economic benefits as well as national security.

I guess that's why we aren't doing it.

7 posted on 03/23/2009 12:51:47 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (American Revolution II -- overdue)
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To: FlameThrower
Now that stimulus money is out there...


8 posted on 03/23/2009 12:51:53 PM PDT by frithguild (Can I drill your head now?)
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To: frithguild

Now THAT’S just plain funny, right there!


9 posted on 03/23/2009 1:00:26 PM PDT by willgolfforfood
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To: FlameThrower
The two sides typically talk past each other. One side focuses on anomalous energy production (where the cause is secondary). The other focuses on whether or not the cause could possibly be nuclear fusion (or any sort of nuclear reaction at all.)

But the question of whether or not anomalous energy production is occurring is separate and distinct from the question of whether or not any sort of nuclear reaction is involved. And whether or not the phenomenon could be economically used by society to produce energy is yet a third issue.

I've long felt that the name "cold fusion" is largely responsible for the controversy.

10 posted on 03/23/2009 1:02:12 PM PDT by sourcery (Obama Lied. The Economy Died!)
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To: DManA
“Low energy” tells me this is interesting only from a scientific perspective, not an economic one.

It depends. If we scale energy sources from "low" to "high," I think that "cold fusion" might well end up being on roughly the same level as the gasoline engine. "Hot fusion," by contrast, being a very high energy source.

11 posted on 03/23/2009 1:03:11 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: FlameThrower

I would sure like to see this riddle solved. Whether it really is cold fusion or whatever, I don’t care. Whether it is useful or not, I don’t care. I just want someone to once-and-for-all show me just what the heck is going on.


12 posted on 03/23/2009 1:11:15 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: DManA

Low energy compared to an H-bomb explosion or low energy compared to a light bulb? Scale would be an important descriptor.


13 posted on 03/23/2009 1:14:53 PM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: FlameThrower

Mr. Fusion?


14 posted on 03/23/2009 1:27:17 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is the belief that most people are better off if everyone was equally poor and miserable.)
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To: sourcery

Excellent post from you. Nothing else needs to be said.


15 posted on 03/23/2009 1:28:17 PM PDT by agere_contra (So ... where's the birth certificate?)
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To: FlameThrower
It is ironic that almost immediately after Pons and Fleishmann announced their “cold fusion” results the scientific community was skeptical because further experiments by others could not yield the same results or support their theory. Contrast this to the smoking gun “hockey stick” graph touted by Al Gore's “consensus of scientists” as veritable proof of man caused global warming, despite it never have been duplicated by others or found predictive with historic climate data.
16 posted on 03/23/2009 1:28:48 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: valkyry1; neverdem; sionnsar; patton; cogitator
Lettuce see watt happens.

(Some advances in science have happened when the mainstream view was wrong, many others have have occurred when the mainstream view was right. ALL have required ENGINEERING to succeed, and quite frankly, it is in the engineering and funding and detail design that most theoretical advances have failed.)

After all, the THEORY of rocket science was known in the 1920's based on "simple" equations of physics known since Newton's era. It took tens of thousands of man-years of effort to get to today's level of expertise - where NASA STILL blows them up on the launch pad, and has them fly to Mars and Venus - only to fail on re-entry in the last hundred feet. (Er, meters.)

17 posted on 03/23/2009 1:37:04 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Feet, meeters - eh, one little boo-boo.


18 posted on 03/23/2009 1:39:10 PM PDT by patton (If Hawai'i seccedes, is Barack Obama still an illegal alien?)
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To: FlameThrower

Next thing ya know, we’re gonna be up to our necks in neutrons! Then what? Eh?


19 posted on 03/23/2009 1:41:14 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Funny that the global warming crowd, the free-eco-everything-crowd, AND the energy-independence-at-any-price-by-conserfvation-mythology, AND the renewable-energy-by-mythology-future-technology-developments-if-Bush-were-not-in-the-WH crowd NEVER EVER even bring up the potentials of Fusion power.

Strange that, isn't it?

The one actual physically possible solution to EVERY one of their problems is NOT even discussed as a potential event.

But solar and wind power are deemed not only economical by 2050, but WILL be legislated into use for 50% - 80% of our power by 2050.

20 posted on 03/23/2009 1:42:32 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: r9etb

“Hot” or “Cold”, “Low energy” or “High energy” has to do with the energy of the participating ingredients needed to make the reaction go, not the amount of energy available if the reaction goes.


21 posted on 03/23/2009 1:44:58 PM PDT by broncobilly
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To: FlameThrower

Interesting. Thanks.


22 posted on 03/23/2009 1:49:15 PM PDT by DB
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To: FlameThrower

I’ll believe in “cold fusion” when they pry it from my cold, dead hands......................


23 posted on 03/23/2009 1:51:26 PM PDT by Red Badger (0bama: I'm not a socialist......................(I'm a Trotskyite)...............)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Certainly a great improvement for flux capacitors.


24 posted on 03/23/2009 1:57:04 PM PDT by cizinec (The truth is . . . . . 127!)
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To: FlameThrower
Science may be scientific, but is also, too often, a religion. As in belief in global warming or the disbelief in cold fusion.

Practical Cold Fusion could rapidly accelerate Global Warming and should be banned to save humanity.

ML/NJ

25 posted on 03/23/2009 1:57:13 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: DManA

Wouldn’t 10kw vs. a 1 metaton detonation be considered “Low energy”? I could power my house for almost a year.


26 posted on 03/23/2009 2:12:14 PM PDT by QDaddy
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
Next thing ya know, we’re gonna be up to our necks in neutrons! Then what? Eh?

Kind of like when Elroy Jetson was playing with his chemistry set splitting atoms just like any red blooded boy would do in the utopian future. His mother, Jane, scolded him not to get all those messy atoms all over her clean floor.


27 posted on 03/23/2009 2:41:07 PM PDT by Jeff F (austinaero; Phoenix11; WaterBoard)
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To: AdmSmith; bvw; callisto; ckilmer; dandelion; ganeshpuri89; gobucks; KevinDavis; Las Vegas Dave; ...
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28 posted on 03/23/2009 8:43:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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An experimental "cold fusion" device produced this pattern of "triple tracks" (shown at right), which scientists say is caused by high-energy nuclear particles resulting from a nuclear reaction (Credit: Pam Boss, Space and Naval Warfare Systems Center (SPAWAR))

New Evidence For Existence Of Controversial Energy Source

29 posted on 03/23/2009 8:44:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

only to fail on re-entry in the last hundred feet. (Er, meters.)

What? You think it failed? LOL! That’s just the cover story. Remeber that face on Mars? Hmmmm? ;^)


30 posted on 03/24/2009 5:25:12 AM PDT by saganite (What would Sully do?)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

I just ran through quite a few of the articles in science daily about “LENR”. I’m beginning to believe that in time, Pons and Fleischman are going to get the credit for their experiment that I have always believed they deserved. I don’t have any idea why they managed to get that thing to work back then, but I’ve always believed they were honest scientists who managed to somehow get everything exactly right, or that some trace impurity was responsible for their experiment working. If they are someday fully vindicated, as it seems increasingly possible they will be, it will be a fascinating lesson for all of science.


31 posted on 03/24/2009 12:32:25 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: FlameThrower

How many times have we heard this?


32 posted on 03/24/2009 3:49:15 PM PDT by iowamark (certified by Michael Steele as "ugly and incendiary")
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

The Global Warming crowed is opposed to both wind and solar as well. They oppose all energy.

Solar:

Title: Feinstein: Don’t Spoil Our Desert With Solar Panels

URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/21/feinstein-dont-spoil-desert-solar-panels/

Wind:

Kennedy faces fight on Cape Wind

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2006/04/27/kennedy_faces_fight_on_cape_wind/


33 posted on 03/24/2009 5:26:14 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Obama is the stupidest president this nation has yet had. No proof exists he ever completed college.)
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To: NoLibZone

You are correct. What leftists really oppose is people.

Notice that whenever they get a chance, they kill as many as they can.


34 posted on 03/24/2009 5:30:57 PM PDT by B Knotts (Worst economy since the Third Punic War)
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To: FlameThrower

No sane person would like for this to be a fluke. I can’t say it’s impossible, but unless they can somehow concentrate this this seemingly fleeting phenomenon I’m skeptical. Skeptical by nature so no surprise there.


35 posted on 03/25/2009 5:47:01 PM PDT by allmost
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To: FlameThrower

3000 papers on cold fusion.

http://lenr-canr.org/

Enjoy


36 posted on 03/29/2009 8:22:36 AM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: FlameThrower

Cash fishing.


37 posted on 09/23/2009 9:41:21 PM PDT by onedoug
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