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LONG BEACH CITY COUNCIL VOTING TO HAVE AMMUNITION REGISTERED-TUESDAY 5pm
03/23/09 | ABIGAIL2

Posted on 03/23/2009 9:24:41 PM PDT by abigail2

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Long Beach City Council to Vote on Ammunition Registration Tuesday
March 24

Please Make Your Opposition Heard!

On Tuesday, March 24, the Long Beach City Council is set to vote on whether to draft an ordinance to force ammunition sellers in Long Beach to record the identity of all ammunition purchasers, as well as other details of the sales transaction. These records would then be collected and used by the Long Beach Police Department to identify purchasers who are legally prohibited from possessing ammunition.

This ordinance will do nothing to reduce crime. It is simply an attempt to restrict the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens.

The results of previous ammunition registration experiments have been so dismal that other cities have abandoned these schemes rather than pay to maintain them.

The ordinance is also illegal. These ammunition registration ordinances are preempted by state law and constitute an unconstitutional infringement on the Second Amendment.

Your help is needed to defeat this proposal. Please call and email the Long Beach City Council and/or attend the City Council meeting on March 24, 2009 and voice your opposition. Tell your neighbors to do the same. For contact information for the Long Beach City Council, please click here.

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To save time, below I have complied a list of the Long Beach Council members and their contact info. Please voice your opposition to this proposal; Call, E-mail and Fax these council members, and help us defeat this. This is very costly and totally ineffective against crime, Different cities have tried this very same thing before and in EVERY case they have dropped it because it did nothing but waist time and money.......... If this passes in L.B. your city could be next, and it may not be just ammo you have to register for... ............... PLEASE PASS THIS ON.................... _________________________________________________________________

**Council member Suja Lowenthal City Hall Office Civic Center Plaza 333 West Ocean Blvd., 14th Floor Long Beach, California 90802 Telephone Number: (562) 570-6684 Fax Number: (562) 570-6882 Field Office 2132 East 4th Street Long Beach, CA 90814 Telephone Number: (562) 570-1812 Fax Number: (562) 570-1814 E-mail Council member Lowenthal ( district2@longbeach.gov ) E-MAIL HER STAFF BROC COWARD - Broc_Coward@longbeach.goV JEMIE SAEE KOO - jemie_saekoo@longbeach.gov ARMANDO VAZQUEZ-RAMOS - armando_vazquez-ramos@longbeach.gov RAMON AGUILAR - ramon_aguilar@longbeach.gov HEATHER BURKE - heather_burke@longbeach.gov _________________________________________________________________ **Council member Gary DeLong City Hall Office 333 West Ocean Boulevard, 14th Floor Long Beach, California 90802 Telephone: (562) 570-6300 Fax: (562) 570-6186

Field Office 340 Nieto Avenue Long Beach, California 90814 Telephone: (562) 570-8756 Fax: (562) 570-8760

E-mail Council member DeLong District3@LongBeach.gov

E-MAIL HIS STAFF Julie Maleki - Julie_Maleki@longbeach.gov Anne Cramer - Anne_Cramer@longbeach.gov Joe Toney - District3@LongBeach.gov _______________________________________________________________________________________________________ **Council member Patrick O'Donnell Long Beach City Hall 333 W. Ocean Blvd. 14th floor Long Beach, California 90802 Phone: 562.570.6918 Fax: 562.570.5235 E-mail Council member O'Donnell district4@longbeach.gov

E-MAIL HIS STAFF Bridget Sramek - Bridget_Sramek@longbeach.gov Moises Romero - Moises_Romero@longbeach.gov Brenda Calcoa - brenda_caloca@longbeach.gov _______________________________________________________________________________________________________ **Council member Gerrie Schipske City Hall 333 West Ocean Blvd. 14th Floor Long Beach, CA 90802 Phone Number: (562) 570-6932 Fax Number: (562) 570-6857 Neighborhood Office 2760 Studebaker Road Long Beach, CA 90815 Phone Number: (562) 570-3102 Fax Number: (562) 570-1239

E-mail Council member Schipske district5@longbeach.gov _______________________________________________ **Council member Dee Andrews City Hall Office 333 W. Ocean Blvd. 14th floor Long Beach, California 90802 Phone: (562) 570-6816 Fax: (562) 570-7135 E-mail Council member Andrews district6@longbeach.gov

E-MAIL HIS STAFF John Edmond - John_Edmond@longbeach.gov Tonya Martin - Tonya_Martin@longbeach.gov Kimberly Dodson - Kimberly_Dodson@longbeach.gov Hadassa Jackson - Hadassa_Jackson@longbeach.gov _______________________________________________ **Council member Tonia Reyes Uranga City Hall Office 333 West Ocean Blvd. 14th floor Long Beach, California 90802 Telephone Number: (562) 570-6139 Fax Number: (562) 570-6954 Field Office 2125 Santa Fe Ave. Long Beach, California , 90810 Telephone Number: (562) 570-4461 E-mail Council member Uranga district7@longbeach.gov

E-MAIL HER STAFF Patti Sramek - patricia_sramek@longbeach.gov Ray Pok -ray_pok@longbeach.gov Denise Hg - Denise_ng@longbeach.gov _______________________________________________ **Council member Rae Gabelich City Hall Office 333 W. Ocean Blvd. 14th floor Long Beach, California 90802 Phone: (562) 570-6685 Fax: (562) 570-5982 E-mail Council member Gabelich district8@longbeach.gov

E-MAIL HER STAFF Jonathan Kraus - Jonathan_Kraus@longbeach.gov Rose Stevens - rose_c_stevens@longbeach.gov Linda Ivers - Linda_Ivers@longbeach.gov Veronica Sevin - Veronica_Servin@longbeach.gov _______________________________________________ **Council member, ( Vice Mayor ) Val Lerch City Hall Office 333 West Ocean Blvd. 14th floor Long Beach, California 90802 Telephone Number: (562) 570-6137 Fax Number: (562) 570-6659 Field Office 6335 Myrtle Ave. Long Beach, California , 90805 Telephone Numbers: (562) 570-3319 (Janet) (562) 570-3315 (Jerry) Fax Number: (562) 422-3852 E-mail Council member Lerch district9@longbeach.gov

E-MAIL HIS STAFF Janet Surber - jasurbe@ci.long-beach.ca.us __________________


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KEYWORDS: ammunition; banglist; california; control; gun; guns; longbeach; registration; secondamendment
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Recommendation to City Council to concur in the recommendation of the Public Safety Committee to direct City Attorney to prepare an ordinance that would require firearms ammunition vendors in the City of Long Beach to keep ammunition sales records. 13. 07-0825 VICE MAYOR VAL LERCH, COUNCILMEMBER, NINTH DISTRICT, CHAIR; PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE Office or Department:
Suggested Action: Approve recommendation.

Coming to your city soon!

1 posted on 03/23/2009 9:24:42 PM PDT by abigail2
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To: abigail2

FK that!


2 posted on 03/23/2009 9:27:01 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: rebuildus; NewDestiny; fabian; enter the dragon; FDA SUCKS; Ladycalif; DoughtyOne; blackie

Anything you can do will help...even if its just a BTTT


3 posted on 03/23/2009 9:27:15 PM PDT by abigail2
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To: whatisthetruth; pankot; unkus; fabian; AuntB; johnny7; Dustbunny; blackie; ...

TIME TO STAND UP AND BE COUNTED, EVEN IF YOU DON’T LIVE AROUND HERE, YOU CAN EMAIL AND CALL. WE CAN ALL HELP WHEN IT COMES TO YOUR TOWN.....


4 posted on 03/23/2009 9:28:15 PM PDT by abigail2
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To: mojitojoe

That’s right mo jo.


5 posted on 03/23/2009 9:29:03 PM PDT by abigail2
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To: abigail2
Those damned liberals!
They're so scared that we're gonna KILL them!
6 posted on 03/23/2009 9:31:33 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: abigail2

Hope sanity prevails...but it IS Kalifornia!


7 posted on 03/23/2009 9:32:38 PM PDT by LUV W (Zero is dumb as a rock)
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To: abigail2

Sorry Cali FReepers. You just need to get out of California. I’m done with that commie bastion.


8 posted on 03/23/2009 9:32:50 PM PDT by Domandred (Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.)
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To: abigail2

bump


9 posted on 03/23/2009 9:33:00 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (just b/c you're paranoid, doesn't mean "they" aren't out to get you.. :^)
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To: mojitojoe
Slowly but surely they are stealing our Liberty. Obama is laughing at us.
10 posted on 03/23/2009 9:33:42 PM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts ("Hey Liberals.. We don't lower our standards, so up yours!" - Andrew Wilkow show)
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To: abigail2

Aw Hell naw? In the 2-1-3? Snoop Dogg will be pissed.


11 posted on 03/23/2009 9:33:57 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: Yosemitest

LOL@(HeHeHeHeHe)


12 posted on 03/23/2009 9:34:16 PM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts ("Hey Liberals.. We don't lower our standards, so up yours!" - Andrew Wilkow show)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
This law isn't for Liberals.. Just like the tax laws aren't for them.
13 posted on 03/23/2009 9:35:16 PM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts ("Hey Liberals.. We don't lower our standards, so up yours!" - Andrew Wilkow show)
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

Anyone in the Los Angeles, Orange County, Long Beach area should attend 5pm tuesday.


14 posted on 03/23/2009 9:38:55 PM PDT by abigail2
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To: Yosemitest

That word is probably going to get you moderated!


15 posted on 03/23/2009 9:40:26 PM PDT by abigail2
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To: LUV W
Hope sanity prevails...but it IS Kalifornia!

Don't remind me!

16 posted on 03/23/2009 9:41:05 PM PDT by abigail2
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To: Domandred

You gotta make a stand somewhere, it will all be where you are soon enough!


17 posted on 03/23/2009 9:41:40 PM PDT by abigail2
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To: skinkinthegrass

Thank you skinky.....


18 posted on 03/23/2009 9:42:17 PM PDT by abigail2
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To: divine_moment_of_facts

I don’t think he even notices anything, he’s just following orders. He’s too busy smiling for the camera and preening (whatever that is).


19 posted on 03/23/2009 9:43:19 PM PDT by abigail2
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To: abigail2; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; ...
Call to action ping.



Libertarian ping! Click here to get added or here to be removed or post a message here!
20 posted on 03/23/2009 9:44:49 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

No, the 562.......


21 posted on 03/23/2009 9:45:18 PM PDT by abigail2
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To: Joe Brower

bump


22 posted on 03/23/2009 9:45:31 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: blackie
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23 posted on 03/23/2009 9:46:59 PM PDT by abigail2
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To: abigail2
He’s too busy smiling for the camera and preening (whatever that is).

I swear Obama acts like a typical stoner. I bet 4:20 is observed in the WH.
24 posted on 03/23/2009 9:47:57 PM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts ("Hey Liberals.. We don't lower our standards, so up yours!" - Andrew Wilkow show)
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To: divine_moment_of_facts

What is 4:20?


25 posted on 03/23/2009 9:49:23 PM PDT by abigail2
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To: Domandred

Why? I love giving the finger to the Obama voters who drive Prius.


26 posted on 03/23/2009 9:49:23 PM PDT by max americana
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To: abigail2
A typical time of morning and night for pot heads to smoke.
27 posted on 03/23/2009 9:52:22 PM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts ("Hey Liberals.. We don't lower our standards, so up yours!" - Andrew Wilkow show)
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To: bamahead; Ernest_at_the_Beach; goldstategop; CAluvdubya; CyberAnt; Syncro; Citizen James; ...
bump & a BANG!
28 posted on 03/23/2009 9:53:37 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: divine_moment_of_facts

And how would YOU know!?!!


29 posted on 03/23/2009 9:56:41 PM PDT by abigail2
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To: neverdem

Thank you neverdem.....:)


30 posted on 03/23/2009 9:57:11 PM PDT by abigail2
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To: Calpernia; siamesecats; Candor7; Iowan; Beckwith; Fred Nerks; 1_Rain_Drop; wombtotomb; TLI; ...

I wonder if they will register each bullet separately or what.....

32 posted on 03/23/2009 10:02:08 PM PDT by abigail2
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To: abigail2
I thought it was common knowledge! Man your sheltered, hun ;)

I never liked the stuff.. It gave me vertigo bad!

33 posted on 03/23/2009 10:02:57 PM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts ("Hey Liberals.. We don't lower our standards, so up yours!" - Andrew Wilkow show)
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To: SonOfPyrodex

I like #3 :-)


34 posted on 03/23/2009 10:04:02 PM PDT by abigail2
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To: divine_moment_of_facts

I’m not sheltered......I’m old! LOL


35 posted on 03/23/2009 10:04:49 PM PDT by abigail2
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To: abigail2

I’m older! LOL!


36 posted on 03/23/2009 10:05:38 PM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts ("Hey Liberals.. We don't lower our standards, so up yours!" - Andrew Wilkow show)
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To: abigail2
The city is in violation of state law. Firearms law is solely controlled at the state level in CA. This falls under the same category as trying to ban certain kinds of guns as attempted in the LA and SF areas.
37 posted on 03/23/2009 10:09:13 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: abigail2

bump...these people are really dumb. We should pray for them and then kick them the heck out of office.


39 posted on 03/23/2009 10:12:12 PM PDT by fabian
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To: Myrddin

Thanks for that. CAn you tell me where to find that information? I can take it tomorrow.


40 posted on 03/23/2009 10:15:26 PM PDT by abigail2
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

LOL


41 posted on 03/23/2009 10:16:02 PM PDT by abigail2
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To: abigail2

Civil Disobediance.


42 posted on 03/23/2009 10:16:13 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (A trillion here, a trillion there, and pretty soon you are talking about Zimbabwe money.)
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To: fabian

Hahhhh Hahhhh, not funny when they are in charge now.....


43 posted on 03/23/2009 10:16:49 PM PDT by abigail2
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To: HangFire

Are you out there somewhere? Liberty Belles?


44 posted on 03/23/2009 10:17:50 PM PDT by abigail2
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To: abigail2

It wouldn’t be the first time.


45 posted on 03/23/2009 10:19:54 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: Yosemitest

Yea Heheheheheheh!


46 posted on 03/23/2009 10:21:27 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: divine_moment_of_facts

“A typical time of morning and night for pot heads to smoke”.

I alwys learn something new everytime I am in FReeperville”


47 posted on 03/23/2009 10:21:47 PM PDT by borntobeagle (April 1st....sin taxes are thrown away..excuse my nicotine rants!!)
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To: abigail2

I’m guessing they don’t think ammunition is covered under the 2nd Amendment (and probably repeated in their state Constitution as well).

THIS IS AN EFFORT TO GET ALL GUN OWNERS ON A LIST. IT WILL MAKE CONFISCATION EASIER, and they will use QUANITITES as a check for those to investigate further, and they will use TYPES to put down how you are armed on the list as well...

How in the heck will keeping track of ammo sales stop ANY CRIMES? ANSWER: IT WON’T! It will ONLY prevent law-abiding citizens from exercising their Constitutional right to self-protection...

The only thing that keeps me sane is remember what is said in Proverbs (paraphrased) — Don’t put in with thieves who say “we’ll share the booty” because they lay in wait for themselves and set snares that their own feet will get caught in...


48 posted on 03/23/2009 10:24:41 PM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: abigail2

TANKS a Bunch for the ping,Abby,,,

This seems like more of the lib’s “Ammo Squeezzz”,,,

I think they already know they can’t take the guns away

from 80,000,000( + - ) Americans all at once...


49 posted on 03/23/2009 10:28:59 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: abigail2
Is the City Council going to Bail Out the businesses who will be affected by this? If I lived in Long Beach, which will never happen, I'd take a short drive South to Orange County and purchase my ammo there.

The law of unintended consequences in action once again. Less sales tax revenue for the city, less business license fees and increased unemployment will follow.

50 posted on 03/23/2009 10:33:44 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Since Obama Bin Lyin, the Economy Bin Dyin...)
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