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Silently Self-Profiling -- YOU
UrbanSurvival.com Daily News Update ^ | 24 MAR 2009 | George Ure

Posted on 03/24/2009 10:53:22 AM PDT by Tucson_AZ

It starts off simply enough...you get an email from a friend and it says something like: "OMG You have to see this video about [fill in the blank].  Because you're very interested in [fill in the blank] as a topic, you click over to the link to see what's a highly charged video about [fill in the blank] and the video urges you to 'tell all your friends about this video and send them the link...'.

 

If you're not computer/military/PowersThatBe savvy, you're likely to pass on the link without giving it a second thought.  But you should give it some serious thought whenever you follow links because when you follow links you may be self-profiling yourself to the government.

 

Amazing?  Well, no, pretty simple programming exercise, really.  And, if you had the 'summer of hell/2009' coming up due to all kinds of social stresses and the breakdown of the social contract, right about now if you were trying to defend the existing social paradigm, you'd be doing the same thing, too.

 

It's called 'memeering' and according to our predictive linguistics friends at www.halfpasthuman.com the program is already underway.  Toward what end?  Well, what's a low-cost way to find out who is what kind of potential threat to your paradigm?  I'll show you how it works, step-by-step so you 'get it'. 

 

Congratulations!  You have just gotten yourself into a government database of people who have an 'interest in black powder'.  Since you probably don't spend as much 'head space' as we do, thinking about such computer applications, what this looks like in database set theory can be visualized this way:

 

So far, so good.  Now, let's further suppose that want to narrow down the kind of people that would also be interested in anti-establishment direct action.  Next step?  Another video (or web site) only this time, we are going to  use a topic like, oh, say "Startling New WTO video!"  Such that folks going to this second vid site will likely include some people who also have an interest in black powder, like so:

 

 

Now, it becomes a simple matter to say "Hey!  See that IP Address 12.191.191.5?  That shows up in BOTH  groups.  This intersection between sets in database operations is the vesica pisces.

 

But now, let's take it one step further, because so far, it's still far too many people to round up and throw in special 'camps' should the country get into a period of social unrest; say over a 'summer of hell/2009' period.  So we will put up another site, only this time it might be something like "List of upcoming "Tea Party" events.  Like so:

 

 

So, you see, it's all very simple, once you get the basis concept down:  How will you be self-selecting whether you get judged a 'threat' or not is a simple matter of keeping track of which links you followed to get where.

 

More important?  There's also a simple way to build 'social networks' this way because not only is your IP address logged, but so is the time of your visit.  So as this kind of data snooping continues - as long as lots of folks don't understand it, when you forward one of these sites, you are then in effect telling whatever government "Hey, I am linked to Joe your bother-in-law over here"...and pretty quick not only do they know who has an interest in guns, WTO demonstrations, and upcoming Tea Party events, but they also know that when your IP address shows up, in say half a dozen such exercises, that "Joe your brother-in-law" shows up within a day or two, and he's already on their 'threats to society' list because he actually carried a sign and was ID'ed at some other kind of event...maybe an environmentalist affair of some kind.  And they get all Joe your brother-in-laws connections, too, until pretty quick you get a map in a social networking application that might look like this:

 

File:SNA segment.png

 

So here's my bottom line:  When you do any kind of social networking, be extremely careful with whom you associate.  Or, in the case of Cliff and me, simply don't follow unknown links.  Nothing wrong with YouTube and Google video, but even there, the IP snooping that goes on at the phone company level is pretty awesome,; which is what the privacy people get all worked up about.

 

Why am I bringing this up today?  Because the web bot project has been running across more of these kinds of memeering operations lately which means one of these days, one or more of them will show up in your email.  And, as they do, no matter how tempting it may seem to follow this emotionally highly-charged link just remember that in the process you are self-sorting yourself into some kind of a government profile as part of 'total information awareness' programs designed to enable preemptions, national security rating, and in a worst of all cases scenario, your round-up priority if you've identified yourself as a 'risk' to the existing paradigm.

 

Although it may be too late to do anything about it, if you've already gotten such emails and followed them.  But WTF, its easier to explain it now than waiting till the October-November period when there is a small, but non-zero, chance some rounding up will be done.

 

Oh...one more thing:  If you think you can 'beat the system' by using an open access proxy server somewhere?  Are you kidding?  Those would be almost the very first people to round up because they're smart enough to 'get it' and therefore are the most threatening there are to the existing paradigm, are you kidding?

 

Yes, this is exactly what the electronic freedom fighters are all about, but that battle's been over for a long time.  Sorry.  You lost.   Oh sure, something like the Google Street View controversy seems like the right fight, but are you kidding?  Hell no, it's a minor distraction to keep the public off the real deal memeering.

 

All plausibly deniable, too.  How so?  There are something like 27 levels of security classifications above even the President of these United States.  So you just know how far down the food chain Congress and watchdog agencies are.  But then you knew that, too, or at least you should have.  Or, maybe you don't.  And maybe there really are no PowersThatBe, no shadow government, above the elected, and acting as self-appointed caretakers for the existing way things are because it sorta works. Of course.

 

Then again, you might inspect those links to web sites that aren't on the beaten path, and even then, you gotta wonder what the phone companies are really up to in their central office frame rooms, and why that's so important to 'national security'.  Except now you know.

 


TOPICS: Government; Society
KEYWORDS: agenda; banglist; guns; memeering; oppression; privacy; tea; teaparty; wot
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"So, you see, it's all very simple, once you get the basis concept down: Whether you get judged a 'threat' or not is a simple matter of keeping track of which links you followed to get where.

More important? There's also a simple way to build 'social networks' this way because not only is your IP address logged, but so is the time of your visit. So as this kind of data snooping continues - as long as lots of folks don't understand it, when you forward one of these sites, you are then in effect telling whatever government "Hey, I am linked to Joe your bother-in-law over here"...and pretty quick not only do they know who has an interest in guns, WTO demonstrations, and upcoming Tea Party events, but they also know that when your IP address shows up, in say half a dozen such exercises, that "Joe your brother-in-law" shows up within a day or two, and he's already on their 'threats to society' list because he actually carried a sign and was ID'ed at some other kind of event...maybe an environmentalist affair of some kind. And they get all Joe your brother-in-laws connections, too, until pretty quick you get a map in a social networking application that might look like this..."

1 posted on 03/24/2009 10:53:22 AM PDT by Tucson_AZ
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To: Tucson_AZ

BTTT


2 posted on 03/24/2009 10:55:18 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: Tucson_AZ; bamahead

Bump to read later


3 posted on 03/24/2009 10:58:40 AM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
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To: Tucson_AZ

Is this summer going to be

A. Worse than Y2K?
B. Better than Y2K?
C. About the same?


4 posted on 03/24/2009 10:59:42 AM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Private First Class - 1/16/09 - Parris Island, SC)
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To: Tucson_AZ

With dial up, you’ll get a different IP addr every time you connect.

You’re liable to also even with a cable modem, provided you actually shut down the modem between sessions.


5 posted on 03/24/2009 11:01:23 AM PDT by Pessimist
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To: Tucson_AZ

Too late for caution. All FReepers are already on some one’s list somewhere.

Good info though.


6 posted on 03/24/2009 11:02:45 AM PDT by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: Tucson_AZ

OMG - I’ve got a whole big list of people I need to send this to...

;-)


7 posted on 03/24/2009 11:05:58 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (The emporer has no pedigree.)
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To: Islander7

If Obummers budget busters dont destroy this nation, then this will.


8 posted on 03/24/2009 11:06:01 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: Tucson_AZ

Yep, understood this for a while and you’re right. I would cry “Wolverines!” but the bad guys won in that one.


9 posted on 03/24/2009 11:06:06 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Islander7

If Obummers budget busters dont destroy this nation, then this will.


10 posted on 03/24/2009 11:06:12 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: Hegemony Cricket

ROFL!


11 posted on 03/24/2009 11:06:36 AM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: Tucson_AZ

The information content is quite real, and the scenario is plausible, but I have to wonder if this is more subtle work towards creating the subdued, controllable Society of paranoiacs.


12 posted on 03/24/2009 11:11:36 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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To: Islander7
Yeah, it's a little late for all of us. Last night I asked my Obama loving wife if she would admit I was right when she saw me waving goodbye from the train bound for my “campus.”
13 posted on 03/24/2009 11:12:07 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: Tucson_AZ

If you think you haven’t already been profiled and categorized, you’re a greater optimist than I. Event in the USSR the problem was not lack of anonymity but lack of will to fight.


14 posted on 03/24/2009 11:13:19 AM PDT by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: Islander7
"Too late for caution. All FReepers are already on some one?s list somewhere.

Good info though."

Yep. If you look at FR you are on a list; if you post on FR you are on level 2 list, if you look at this thread - level 3, if you post on this thread - there is a plain Crown Victoria parked across the street. Paranoia??

15 posted on 03/24/2009 11:14:34 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Tucson_AZ

BTTT


16 posted on 03/24/2009 11:15:26 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Two blogs for the price of none!)
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To: Peanut Gallery

ping


17 posted on 03/24/2009 11:16:45 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (Our Savior who art in Washinton, Hallowed be His name...)
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To: Luke21

That’s sad. How can you relate to a person who disagrees with you on the most fundamental levels?


18 posted on 03/24/2009 11:17:04 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Truth29

... if you post on this thread - there is a plain Crown Victoria parked across the street...


Yes. I can see it through my Leupold VX-III...

19 posted on 03/24/2009 11:21:58 AM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
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To: Travis McGee; MeekOneGOP

Ping


20 posted on 03/24/2009 11:23:08 AM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
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To: EdReform
"... if you post on this thread - there is a plain Crown Victoria parked across the street..."

"Yes. I can see it through my Leupold VX-III..."

HAHA. Level five, there are ninja moving across your lawn.

21 posted on 03/24/2009 11:25:51 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Hegemony Cricket

ROFL!

Oh, crap, did i just tag myself?


22 posted on 03/24/2009 11:28:14 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (Want to make a conservative angry? Lie to him. Want to make a liberal angry? Tell him the truth)
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To: Truth29

Yes. I can see them through my Leupold VX-III...


23 posted on 03/24/2009 11:29:19 AM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
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To: Truth29
Yep. If you look at FR you are on a list; if you post on FR you are on level 2 list, if you look at this thread - level 3, if you post on this thread - there is a plain Crown Victoria parked across the street. Paranoia??

Oh, crap, there are a dozen whit Crown Vics out in the company parking lot as we speak.

Oh, wait, those are company cars. Never mind.

24 posted on 03/24/2009 11:29:35 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (Want to make a conservative angry? Lie to him. Want to make a liberal angry? Tell him the truth)
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To: B-Chan
My wife watches CNN every morning when she gets up. She tells me she can distinguish their lies from their news, to which I reply, “What news?” A lot of us live in mixed marriages. My middle daughter is a theatre kid and wants us to all become homosexuals. She and her mother agree most of the time. My oldest and youngest and my step son agree with me. I'll take three out of four.

When we married, she and her parents were Ford Republicans. I was a Reagan Democrat who hated Ford and voted for Carter. I was eighteen. Forgive me.

There's a point where we have to have faith in our Creator. I don't have that many years left, but I remember a lot of us were worked up in similar fashion at Clinton, Waco, Ruby Ridge, the ATF, Mena, et al. back in 1993-94. We all voted and went back to sleep. We see the results of our slumber.

25 posted on 03/24/2009 11:30:03 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: Travis T. OJustice

LOL!


26 posted on 03/24/2009 11:31:58 AM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
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To: don-o

Since nothing happened during Y2K, being worse than Y2K is not much of hurdle...


27 posted on 03/24/2009 11:32:25 AM PDT by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: Islander7

The ‘Geithner takeover’ of ‘all institutions and markets that could pose a systemic risk also has alot of personal financial information the government could get its hands on easier.


28 posted on 03/24/2009 11:32:56 AM PDT by griswold3 (a good story is more compelling than the search for truth)
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To: Tucson_AZ

My late father retired from the Marine Corps as a “communications chief” in the 1960’s and worked in the Bell frame rooms after that, tapping lines. This is nothing new.


29 posted on 03/24/2009 11:33:48 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (In honor of my late father-Gysgt/Comm. Chief, USMC WWII, Korea 1925-2002)
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To: Little Ray

Duh


30 posted on 03/24/2009 11:34:27 AM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Private First Class - 1/16/09 - Parris Island, SC)
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To: Luke21

CNN, while only marginally better than MSNBC, means COMMIE NEWS NETWORK.


31 posted on 03/24/2009 11:34:45 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: Tucson_AZ

‘black powder’ is an “emotionally charged issue”?


32 posted on 03/24/2009 11:37:29 AM PDT by BenLurkin (Mornie` utulie`. Mornie` alantie`.)
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To: Truth29

“...there is a plain Crown Victoria parked across the street...”

How did you know?


33 posted on 03/24/2009 11:39:14 AM PDT by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: Luke21

My much over educated (read that indoctrinated) cousin, who is a history professor has stopped gloating. He will bearly look me in the eye.

I still want to slap him!


34 posted on 03/24/2009 11:42:12 AM PDT by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: Travis T. OJustice

OK, I’m not posting to this thread, then.


35 posted on 03/24/2009 11:44:04 AM PDT by ducdriver (judica me, Deus, et discerne causam meam de gente non sancta. (Ps. 42))
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To: ducdriver
OK, I’m not posting to this thread, then.

Phew, I'm glad to not see your post here!

36 posted on 03/24/2009 11:44:52 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (Want to make a conservative angry? Lie to him. Want to make a liberal angry? Tell him the truth)
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To: Islander7
I still want to slap him!

You're too kind.

37 posted on 03/24/2009 11:45:29 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (Want to make a conservative angry? Lie to him. Want to make a liberal angry? Tell him the truth)
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To: Tucson_AZ

So what if you visit/post at all the liberal, moonbat, Greenpeace, religious, pro-Obama, love, peace and joy sites as well?


38 posted on 03/24/2009 11:48:30 AM PDT by John.Galt2012
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To: Tucson_AZ

I guess being a Freeper automatically puts us in the “Lock these people up” anyway so I’m not going to sweat it.


39 posted on 03/24/2009 11:50:57 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Islander7
I ran into a couple of Obama zombies at dinner the other night. They rushed right into a conversation about their king, believing no one could possibly disagree with them.

The husband was in the military, making it all quite frightening. The generous benefits given our military people have convinced them that everyone should have similar health care, etc.

My middle daughter is an Obot. She waves her arms furiously to stop conversation when I enter the room.

40 posted on 03/24/2009 11:51:00 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: Tucson_AZ

Seems like a bunch of us Tucsonans around these days.


41 posted on 03/24/2009 11:52:15 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: Truth29

Aw nuts.

That’ll teach me to read through all the comments before I post!


42 posted on 03/24/2009 11:55:02 AM PDT by BenLurkin (Mornie` utulie`. Mornie` alantie`.)
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To: Tucson_AZ

Somebody forgot the “tin foil hat alert”.


43 posted on 03/24/2009 12:03:50 PM PDT by gilor (Pull the wool over your own eyes!)
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To: Pessimist
With dial up, you’ll get a different IP addr every time you connect.

You’re liable to also even with a cable modem, provided you actually shut down the modem between sessions.

However, your Internet Service Provider needs to know who you are when you log in - to verify that you are a valid bill-paying customer. To accomplish this, they give you a sign-in and a password (or at the very least, they look at the unique MAC address on your cable modem to verify that it is you). Either way, once you connect to your service provider, THEY know who you are, even if the government does not.

Once you successfully connect to your service provider, and sign in, THEN they assign you an IP address, which you then use for surfing the Web. Even if you hang up, log back in the next day, and get a different IP address (assuming you have dial-up), your Internet Service Provider will still have a record of which IP address they assigned to you the previous day (and probably every day before that).

Hence, all anyone with authority has to do is go to your Internet Service Provider and ask a question like: "on 10/14/08, at 11:23pm, which one of your customers was assigned IP address 43.67.21.56??". So I don't think that hanging up and redialing, or power-cycling your cable modem, will do much good if they are sufficiently determined to identify you.

44 posted on 03/24/2009 12:03:56 PM PDT by Zetman
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To: Tucson_AZ
That will never work! Need proof?
45 posted on 03/24/2009 12:05:59 PM PDT by An Old Man (Use it up, Wear it out, Make it do, or Do without.)
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To: Luke21

Hubby works with a guy who just found out this election that his wife of 7 years is a flaming lib. He swears he had no idea and is completely shocked at her views. I knew in the first 10 minutes of conversation with her the first time I met her. That was over 3 years ago. How can you NOT have any idea the political leanings of the person you’ve been living with for 7 years? And they don’t even have kids, so it’s not like they were distracted other people in the house.


46 posted on 03/24/2009 12:09:39 PM PDT by Hoffer Rand (There ARE two Americas: "God's children" and the tax payers)
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To: Truth29

a plain crown vic across the street? oh dear, across the street is a police station and a mdot building.
how will i know which one’s out to get me?


47 posted on 03/24/2009 12:14:34 PM PDT by absolootezer0 (thank God for Chicago: makes Detroit look wholesome by comparison.)
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To: Tucson_AZ


Good morning Dave
48 posted on 03/24/2009 12:15:36 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: An Old Man

That was pretty cool, tho’ at least one part was wrong. Since I have no idea what my IP address is, don’t know if it was right. ISP was, so probably...


49 posted on 03/24/2009 12:16:12 PM PDT by green iguana
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To: EdReform

must be a big lawn..


50 posted on 03/24/2009 12:16:38 PM PDT by absolootezer0 (thank God for Chicago: makes Detroit look wholesome by comparison.)
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