Posted on 03/24/2009 4:33:19 PM PDT by Sergeant Tim
During a March 22, 2009, Freedom Radio interview, retired Marine Lieutenant Colonel Robert Weimann discussed the improper command influence that occured throughout much of the Haditha investigation.
The 'Sins of the Generals' were many and began even before Tim McGirk's insurgent talking-points driven Time magazine article. The top brass violated both the spirit and intent of the 1986 'Goldwater-Nichols Department of Defense Reform Act'. The combat commander was the convening authority yet politicians, those outside the chain-of-command, and others improperly interjected themselves, let media buzz and enemy propaganda into their decision cycles, and forced further investigation even after Army Colonel Watt's independent review found that:
No, there are no indications that [Coalition Forces] intentionally targeted, engaged and kill non-combatants. There is no denying that civilians died during the insurgent's coordinated attack on the Marines on 19 Nov 05; however there is no evidence that Marines intentionally set out to target, engage, and kill non-combatants. …the four military age males in the WHITE CAR got out, failed to comply with orders and instructions from Marines and proceeded to run away… Anti-[Coalition Forces] were indistinguishable from non-combatants… The amount of force was proportional…appropriate in nature, scope and duration [and] hostile action set conditions that made it difficult for CF to [positively identify and] discriminate while executing offensive room clearing techniques.
Nothing remains to support Congressman Murtha's trial-by-media-microphone finding that Marines had murdered "civilians" and "women and children" in "cold blood." After forty months, the Haditha "massacre" investigation's results to date are as follows: all charges against five Marines were dismissed; one Marine was found not guilty of all charges; and, while they maintain their innocence, lesser charges against two Marines, Lt. Col. Jeffrey Chessani and Staff Sergeant Frank Wuterich, are still pending.
Early on, Sgt. Sanick P. Dela Cruz was granted immunity from prosecution for allegedly murdering five Iraqi men (near the white car) in return for his testimony. An Article 32 hearing is our military's equivalent of a grand jury investigation. Should SSgt Wuterich's case ever come to trial, prosecutors will very likely have difficulty reestablishing Sgt Dela Cruz' credibilty after his past performance as a witness.
On August 9, 2007, Lt. Gen. James Mattis dropped all charges against Lance Cpl. Justin Sharratt in the Haditha murder case and in part stated, "[H]e did his best to live up to the standards, followed by U.S. fighting men throughout our many wars, in the face of life or death decisions made in a matter of seconds in combat." Mattis came to those conclusions based upon the Article 32 Investigation officer's report which reads in part, "To believe the government version of facts is to disregard clear and convincing evidence to the contrary ... From as early as February 2006 LCpl Sharratt's statements are supported by the forensic evidence."
On August 9, 2007, Lt. Gen. James Mattis dropped all charges against Capt. Randy Stone in the Haditha murder case and in part stated, "I am aware of the line that separates the merely remiss from the clearly criminal, and I do not believe that any mistakes Captain Stone made with respect to the incident rise to the level of criminal behavior." Stone who was not present at the scene or involved in any of the deaths, had been accused of failing to properly investigate the incident.
September 18, 2007, charges against Kilo Company 3/1 Commander Capt. Lucas McConnell were dropped. While McConnell was not present at the scene or involved in any of the deaths, he had been charged with dereliction of duty and, "Lt. Gen. Mattis determined that administrative measures are the appropriate response for any errors or omissions allegedly committed by McConnell."
On March 28, 2008, all charges were dismissed with prejudice (bars the government from prosecuting the accused on the same charge at a later date) against LCpl Stephen B. Tatum as "the evidence shows that LCpl Tatum reacted to an enemy attack the way he was trained to do."
On June 4, 2008, a Court Martial panel found 3/1 intelligence officer Lt Grayson not guilty on all counts. In addition to an NCIS agent's testimony refuting the claim that Grayson had not been forthcoming, there was no formal investigation to obstruct when he was interviewed by Colonel Watt about Haditha. Grayson followed SOP when he ordered the destruction of photos that held no intelligence value. Both the forensic examination of computers and NCIS agent testimony supported Grayson's account and refuted the testimony of the prosecution's key witnesses. Finally, there was plenty of evidence to show why LT Grayson mistakenly believed that he could legally separate from the service while charges were still pending.
On June 18, 2008, "[Trial judge] Col. Steven Folsom dismissed charges against Lt. Col. Jeffrey Chessani after finding that a four-star general overseeing the case was improperly influenced by an investigator probing the November 2005 shootings by a Marine squad in Haditha. ... 'Unlawful command influence is the mortal enemy of military justice,'' Folsom said. 'In order to restore the public confidence, we need to take it back. We need to turn the clock back.' ... The charges were dismissed without prejudice, meaning they can be refiled, but Folsom barred Marine Forces Central Command from future involvement in the case." On March 17, 2009, "[A] military appeals court ... upheld the dismissal of dereliction of duty charges against him. The unanimous decision by the United States Navy-Marine Corps Court of Criminal Appeals in Washington supports a finding that improper command influence unlawfully tainted the case against Lt. Col. Jeffrey Chessani."
The 24 murder charges against Staff Sergeant Wuterich have been reduced to 9 counts of voluntary manslaughter (and related charges). His case remains in legal limbo. Prosecutors must now decide if they will appeal a March 12, 2009 decision denying them access to unaired portions of a CBS interview. In addition, "Wuterich's attorneys have said they will ask for a dismissal of the nine counts of manslaughter and related charges against their client on the basis of the unlawful command influence found in Chessani's case."
Days of dishonor are owed and coming to John Murtha; a defamation suit has been filed. Akin to a public penance service, confessional testimony from a star-studded witness list would be good for many souls.
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Post author's clarification: I assisted Pat with show her prep for the Bob Weimann interview. Yet I failed to clarify with her three key points: 1) LCpl Sharratt made his written statement prior to the investigation by Colonel Watt, 2) NCIS collected what evidence they could from House # 4 after the Watt investigation, and 3) the NCIS had Sharratt's statement in their case file, along with the results of the forensic examination, and both were available to Headquarters Marine Corps prior to Congressman Murtha's slanderous May 2006 allegations.
Haditha Marines ping!
Is there a more disgusting pig anywhere than John D. Murtha?
I mean other than Barney Frank.
Thank you. However, most of the inspiration came from LTC Bob Weimann and Honest Conservative’s excellent interview of him.
Outstanding!!!
Wow! You get that (question) snowball rolling and it would be ginormous when it splattered against the front door of the White House.
Special Report with Bret Baier on FoxNews tonight led it's Political Grapevine segment with "Upset with an Award"which discussed the petition brought by two-tour Iraq Marine veteran Gabe Ledeen and Vets For Freedom to request that the Secretary of the Navy rescind a Merit Award given to Murtha.(hat tip to jazusamo for the video link)
For any who havn't seen or signed the petition, a link is included below.
I just love that graphic, Ma.
Honest Conservative ping!
Oh my, so many to choose from.
BTTT
BTTT
Time for Lardass to go gently into that good night.
Excellent post.
Ahhhhhh, how on earth do you guys come up with these things!!!!!
Damn, I LOVE this place!!!!
I got that one at the Grouchy Old Cripple. Check him out.
Here on FR? I just did a search and came up empty. What am I doing wrong?
How grand would life be if we could rid ourselves of these bloodsuckers with just one application.
Now that’s what I call hope!
LMAO! Ping.
Thank you Dear!
wow. great news. I was overseas when this came out. Can someone point me to a link with the story?
Here you go http://www.northcountytimes.com/articles/2009/03/17/military/zb5033eaa64d0f5308825757c006d9c3e.txt
As Lt Col Weimann points out near the end of the interview.
On another thread, in another forum, a conservative from Massachusetts was getting flamed for being Rep’d by Barney Frank...why (the posters scathed) don’t you people work for good strong, moral conservative candidates, yada yada. I posted, “I understand the frustration Mass feels; I live in PA...and we can’t vote out John Murtha.”
I don’t live in his district (I do have a conservative, good guy Rep...Tim Murphy...not that ‘other’ Murphy) but I spend alot of time in Johnstown. Every other building (outside of the new Northrup Grummond) is Murtha this, Murtha that. There are other ‘named’ buildings (too late, on tip of tongue) but my best guess is they are the family surname of Mrs. Murtha.
Jacko brings home the pork and fries it in a buidling honoring himself!!!
Was wondering where you've been the other night, glad you're back. Here's a link to the thread.
Thanks for the ping, jaz, and good writeup, Sargeant Tim. I didn’t get a chance to listen to the interview with Lt Col Weimann the other night, so thanks for the audio. Very good listen, especially his opinions on the Watt and Bargewell reports.
Thanks for the ping jaz, but I just saw it as I was turning in, so will check it out in the morning.
I’m, most likely, way outside the box on this, but one thing in this whole affair that really chaps my hide is the constant use of “innocent civilians” to describe the casualties there.
They weren’t innocent and not civilians. In an insurgency, those who work beside the insurgents are targets. We have testimony from a family member of one house that drew fire and took casualties that she knew of the bomb, knew what time the bomb was set to go off, and what self protective measures she took at the time the bomb was scheduled to go off.
She and her family were in on the ambush. Accomplices. Guilty and dealt with accordingly. Same for the other families who took fire. Insurgents were in their homes and the occupants were acting as human shields. Shields are to be shot through. Sucks to be them.
You’re right on, I feel exactly the same. It was a twelve year old girl that admitted it so everyone in those houses had to know it was going down and when it was going to happen.
It’s too bad that women and children are put in that position but our Marines shouldn’t pay with their lives because a cowardly enemy not only hides behind them but uses them for support.
I couldn’t agree more that that’s what should happen, MU, it’s the right thing to do
Personally, I’d like to see this drawn out a lot longer. Not on our Marines who did their duty, but on the JAGs that walked up to the enemy’s bench, dropped their trousers and bent over to please the enemy.
This entire thing was nothing but an enemy propaganda op and the JAGs involved and the NIS agents, played their part willingly in an effort to get as much mileage out of this on behalf of the enemy as was possible.
Your analysis would be hard to prove wrong. Those Iraq where no innocent bystanders.
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