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1 Dead 1 injured in Miami Burger King
Miami Herald ^ | Tuesday, 03.24.09 | ROBERT SAMUELS AND JENNIFER LEBOVICH

Posted on 03/24/2009 6:56:44 PM PDT by Dscott_FR

1 dead, one injured in Miami Burger King shooting

By ROBERT SAMUELS AND JENNIFER LEBOVICH

jlebovich@MiamiHerald.com One man was killed and another seriously wounded in a shootout inside a Miami Burger King on Tuesday, officials said.

Police said a man wearing a ski mask walked into the store at Biscayne Boulevard and 54th Street and demanded money from a clerk.

A customer, who has a concealed weapons permit, pulled a gun, said Officer Jeff Giordano, a Miami police spokesman.

The customer and robber exchanged fire.

The robber was shot dead at the scene.

The customer, who had several gunshot wounds, was taken to Ryder Trauma Center in serious but stable condition, said Lt. Ignatius Carroll, a Miami Fire Rescue spokesman.

At about 4 p.m., officials got several 911 calls reporting people shot inside the Burger King.


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KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; banglist; burgerking; concealedcarry; flarmedcitizen; miami; shooting

1 posted on 03/24/2009 6:56:44 PM PDT by Dscott_FR
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To: Dscott_FR

I love a (relatively) happy ending.

But what I want to know is: Were the last words the robber heard “Where is your god now?”


2 posted on 03/24/2009 6:58:53 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: Dscott_FR

Gotta love the concealed weapons permits...


3 posted on 03/24/2009 6:59:18 PM PDT by joejm65
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To: Dscott_FR

Do we get free fries with one dead robber?

I just came from MickeyD’s and only got a little burger and a McChicken sandwich. The chick is much better than the little roadkill specials.


4 posted on 03/24/2009 7:00:18 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Dscott_FR

“The robber was shot dead at the scene.”

Good.


5 posted on 03/24/2009 7:00:49 PM PDT by Crim
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To: Dscott_FR

CCW saves the day - AGAIN


6 posted on 03/24/2009 7:01:15 PM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: RichInOC

I love a happy ending. Not, it’s I love a happy meal and a dead robber, to go, with ketchup.

What? No toy?


7 posted on 03/24/2009 7:01:22 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Crim

If the hero hadn’t been wounded, he’d probably be in trouble.


8 posted on 03/24/2009 7:02:38 PM PDT by Dscott_FR (Right Wing Extremist and proud of it!!)
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To: Dscott_FR

liberals will want the customer charged with murder or manslaughter


9 posted on 03/24/2009 7:03:11 PM PDT by GeronL (....and I won't let it happen again!)
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To: Dscott_FR
prayers for the customer. and good for him.

perp, rot in hell.

10 posted on 03/24/2009 7:04:19 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: Dscott_FR

“The robber was shot dead at the scene.”

Good shootin’.


11 posted on 03/24/2009 7:04:40 PM PDT by Semper Mark (Paranoia is just a heightened state of awareness.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
I have eaten several McChickens lately. One of them was especially good. the fries were good too. the ketchup packets were in a plastic baggy like an illegal drug.

the only problem was their soda machine had broke, Co2? but the sweet ice tea was good too...

I was actually surprised that it was that good. The other ones were not that good. The McChicken had pepper on it, the other ones had not.

12 posted on 03/24/2009 7:05:49 PM PDT by GeronL (....and I won't let it happen again!)
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To: Dscott_FR

Brave CCW in Miami. Not for his actions to take down the perp but brave for eating Burger King food. ;-)

Seriously - pretty awesome job but sad that perps do stupid things like this. The CCW may have saved the employees lives at BK.

The CCW saved the public from future crime and taxpayer money.


13 posted on 03/24/2009 7:07:15 PM PDT by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Bang! Ping!

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/breaking-news/story/965735.html


14 posted on 03/24/2009 7:13:44 PM PDT by NonLinear ( If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague.)
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To: Dscott_FR
I wish they had CCW in Chicago. We could help Chief Weis make the murder rate drop to at least below Baghdad’s murder rate.
15 posted on 03/24/2009 7:14:16 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: Dscott_FR

Fast food can be fatal.... take a gun.


16 posted on 03/24/2009 7:16:34 PM PDT by Gator113 (For America to Survive, Obama Must Fail..... Obama=Failure in Chief with the Audacity of Dope.....)
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To: Dscott_FR; Squantos

Too bad the CCW allowed “an exchange” of fire. I’d wager his opening line will be doubletap to the head next time he finds himself in a similar close up situation.


17 posted on 03/24/2009 7:19:53 PM PDT by glock rocks (candy apple purple. I don't have ADD, it's just... do you like waffles?)
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To: NonLinear

I started reading the comments at the miami herald article and could not find one supporting the perp. Everyone was conservative and supportive of CCW and the 2nd amendment. Even Obama bashers there.

Where did ‘O’ get those Florida votes anyway?

Oh that’s right, ACORN was counting the votes, never mind.


18 posted on 03/24/2009 7:20:47 PM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT 2006; now living north of Tampa Bay)
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To: Dscott_FR
If the hero hadn’t been wounded, he’d probably be in trouble.

Not here in FL. If you decide to commit a violent crime, you pretty much sign-up to become target practice for any CCW holders who happen to be in the area.

Florida can be a goofed-up state in some respects, but the gun laws are some of the best in the nation.

19 posted on 03/24/2009 7:24:09 PM PDT by AAABEST (And the light shineth in darkness: and the darkness did not comprehend it)
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To: RichInOC; martin_fierro; aculeus; dighton

20 posted on 03/24/2009 7:24:19 PM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: Dscott_FR

Original article here:

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/breaking-news/story/965735.html

I searched for it expecting it to be an AP article, due to the terrible “article name”.

The title said nothing about a robbery and it said nothing about a CCW holder stopping the robbery.

The title would lead you to believe that it was about another senseless murder. It was not.


21 posted on 03/24/2009 7:25:29 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Dscott_FR; Ezekiel; RichInOC; Tijeras_Slim; Constitution Day; aculeus; dighton
Hold the pickles, hold the lettuce ... HOLD YER FIRE!
22 posted on 03/24/2009 7:25:51 PM PDT by martin_fierro (Shirtless at the BK)
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To: GeronL; Dscott_FR
but the sweet ice tea was good too...

Great post / thread and they showed proper Gun control, until this....
McDee's Tea really sucks (too sweet / weak...not "southern-made")...
3 Lipton Family Tea Bags / 2 qts water....
steep 5>10 min. after boil.

"When buying and selling are controlled by legislation, the first things to be bought and sold are legislators." - P. J. O'Rourke
"Socialism is great until you run out of someone elses money" Margaret Thatcher
"There are two sets of rules. One set for the rulers and another for the rest of us." —Richard Yancey, former IRS tax collector

23 posted on 03/24/2009 7:26:01 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (just b/c you're paranoid, doesn't mean "they" aren't out to get you.. :^)
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To: martin_fierro
Hold the pickles, hold the lettuce ... HOLD YER FIRE!

LOL!

"When buying and selling are controlled by legislation, the first things to be bought and sold are legislators." - P. J. O'Rourke
"Socialism is great until you run out of someone elses money" Margaret Thatcher
"There are two sets of rules. One set for the rulers and another for the rest of us." —Richard Yancey, former IRS tax collector

25 posted on 03/24/2009 7:29:51 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (just b/c you're paranoid, doesn't mean "they" aren't out to get you.. :^)
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To: AAABEST

I think the gun laws are good because the old blue dog Dems in the north and central FL are pro gun. They and the Repubs overrule the libs in Dade, Broward and Palm Beach County.

Thank Gov. Bob Martinez (circa 1980s) for CCW. CCW license aps in FL are off the charts since the chosen one became the ineligible POTUS. They had to hire temps to process the flood of aps.

FL also changed the law recently where you had to retreat if the perp was retreating.

Even before that - the law is a CCW can do whatever it takes if the perp is threatening or or harming someone. So if a perp has a gun on a clerk - you can take em down.


26 posted on 03/24/2009 7:36:01 PM PDT by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: Dscott_FR

Wife is going tomorrow for her CCW permit. Everyone else in my family already has theirs.


27 posted on 03/24/2009 7:43:11 PM PDT by bikerman (Obama lied;the Country died.)
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To: martin_fierro
The robber was shot dead at the scene.

"Have it your way."

28 posted on 03/24/2009 7:50:45 PM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: Dscott_FR

At least in Hawaii, the local Burger King is a prostitute hang out.


29 posted on 03/24/2009 7:55:21 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Dscott_FR

Have it your way...


30 posted on 03/24/2009 8:00:44 PM PDT by TBP
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To: bikerman

I have mine,but have been neglectful lately about carrying. This article has given me the wake-up call I needed!


31 posted on 03/24/2009 8:04:36 PM PDT by Dscott_FR (Right Wing Extremist and proud of it!!)
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To: GeronL

Tea is much better for you than gut-rotting soda.


32 posted on 03/24/2009 8:10:30 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: Dscott_FR

nah...CCW.... armed robbery in progress...grease em...

Same here in my state.


33 posted on 03/24/2009 8:41:41 PM PDT by Crim
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34 posted on 03/24/2009 9:36:59 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (Empty Holster Protest: April 20 - 24. Join us. Visit ConcealedCampus.org for more)
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To: joejm65

Nope, I LOATHE ccw. Why should I have to beg permission from government (and at the same time call attention to myself) to exercise my GOD (not government) given RIGHT?????


35 posted on 03/24/2009 10:54:04 PM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: AAABEST

Where have ya been AAA ? Miss yer posts friend !!


36 posted on 03/24/2009 11:46:10 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: George from New England

“Where did ‘O’ get those Florida votes anyway?”

It is amazing to me how any gun owner can be an Obama voter. (I CAN see them being an uninformed Democrat). Unbelievable how even on gun forums they will come to the defense of Obama - even when it comes to guns! (”So, has Obama knocked on your door yet to take your guns? Didn’t think so!”)


37 posted on 03/24/2009 11:53:14 PM PDT by 21twelve (Drive Reality out with a pitchfork if you want — it always comes back.)
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To: glock rocks

I have to think at close range like that one would need a speed rock and half a magazine into a target holding a weapon ready. These days the punks value of life is moot. You can not assume if you don’t resist etc they won’t try and kill you for their version of sport.

Shoot move repeat till threat is STOPPED.


38 posted on 03/25/2009 1:20:08 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Frantzie

The armed customer DID save everyones life...Not may have...

No greater love have a man, than to lay down his life for his country(men)...

I believe this applies nicely...


39 posted on 03/25/2009 3:48:34 AM PDT by stevie_d_64
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To: skinkinthegrass
"Socialism is great until you run out of someone elses money" Margaret Thatcher
Misquoted.

Actual Quote:

“The problem with socialism is that you eventually, run out of other people’s money.” - Margaret Thatcher
40 posted on 03/25/2009 5:13:45 AM PDT by NonLinear ( If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague.)
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To: GeronL

Thansk for the update.....


41 posted on 03/25/2009 8:20:24 AM PDT by Honor above all (I'm only here to help.)
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To: GeronL

Thanks for the update.....


42 posted on 03/25/2009 8:20:35 AM PDT by Honor above all (I'm only here to help.)
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To: Dscott_FR
If the hero hadn’t been wounded, he’d probably be in trouble.

Actually, I'm sort of amazed. With an overwhelmingly antigun citiy police force and city administration here in Miami, the cop's PIO (Public Information Officer) actually said on camera that this man's actions, while lawfully armed probably saved lives and that his courage is to be commended. Coulda knocked me over with a feather! Didn't even include the standard litany that cops usually preach under successful self defense scenes: This was a heroic action but the civilian was very lucky. We always advise that citizens just submit to the crime and live to become a great witness for the prosecution.... yada yada yada. That didn't happen here, I was listening and watching closely. I wonder if the spokesman got into trouble from the antigun chief of police, John Timmoney? Probably.

43 posted on 03/25/2009 11:08:13 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Frantzie
Thank Gov. Bob Martinez (circa 1980s) for CCW.

It's been almost 15 years since I lived in FL, but IIRC liberal Democrat governor and later Senator Bob Graham vetoed two "shall issue" CCW bills while he was in office. When Martinez was elected in the mid 1980s he signed the current FL CCW law, which has been the model for many of the CCW laws that are now on the books in most of the other states.

The FL media went berserk when the CCW law was enacted. I remember the Tampa Bay talking heads and newspaper columnists ranting abd raving about how blood would be running in the gutters of every town in FL and armed citizens would be having wild west shootouts over parking places, but somehow that never happened. Instead, IIRC the FL murder rate went down about 25% in the first five years after the CCW law was signed. Not only that, carjacking in the Miami-Dade area had become too risky with so many armed citizens, so the thugs only robbed, beat, and killed people who were driving cars with rental tags because that meant they were unarmed tourists. The state had to change the auto tags so that rental cars couldn't be identified and unarmed tourists would not be so obvious.

44 posted on 03/26/2009 7:49:09 AM PDT by epow (The best argument against democracy is a conversation with the average voter..Churchill)
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To: epow

They did go beserk with the “Dodge City” crap.

Bob Martinez was a good guy and far better than Miss Charlene Crist.


45 posted on 03/26/2009 7:53:45 AM PDT by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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