"I'm warning you people. No cap-n-trade; no butt shots on remotes."
Posted on 03/24/2009 7:27:25 PM PDT by neverdem
The move comes as the House is about to start wading through Obama's $3.6 trillion budget Wednesday.
House Democratic leaders have decided against using fast-track budget rules to ram through President Obama's environmental initiative known as cap and trade, FOX News has confirmed.
The move comes as the House is about to start wading through Obama's $3.6 trillion budget Wednesday.
Special budget rules enable lawmakers to use what's called "reconciliation" which synchs up the tax code with each year's budget needs. Budget rules are unique in Congress. And the typical Senate option of filibustering a measure is not allowed in reconciliation.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., has advocated moving Obama's environmental plan, known as cap and trade, through the Senate on reconciliation so it won't be subject to a filibuster or need a supermajority of 60 votes to break a filibuster...
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Good!
Well, well, well.
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They’re already preparing for re-election.....
earth is cooling, Obama can take credit for that and I don’t care as long as he just lets us alone.
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Right on! We can’t let up.
Reconciliation is very dangerous. It means a bill must be passed in 20 hours with no revision or amendment, and can be passed with a simple majority. This is NOT good news.
That’s what I was thinking
That’s what I was thinking
a glimmer of hope
What do you mean? This means a ruinously expensive 'cap and trade' has to get 60 votes in the Senate, not just a majority.
maybe I should have said a glimmer of “hope” for no “change” ?
No, it means the opposite. Reconciliation rules out a filibuster. Therefore 51 votes wrecks the American economy.
Hmmm....that may be it.
I wonder if their private pollsters are already taking real polls of the public’s mood. Maybe the vermin Dems and RINOs in DC are starting to learn the love affair with the Kenyan-born marxist muslim is over.
Watch what they DO
Not what they Said
Another effort to reach across the aisle from bipartisan queen Lugosi. Disgusting!
The FIRST thing we’ll have to do when we Americans take our country back is get rid of this dumbass “cap ‘n’ trade” fiasco. Algore will just have to come up with a new con to make his billions.
Is this the bill Spector said he would vote against, giving them only 58 or 59 votes? So it wouldn’t pass anyway.
No, that was the Union Card Check bill.
Oh, that's right. There are so many bills right now that I get them confused.
Rest assured he will not leave us alone!
I guess that means it’s on a slow track....which is way, way too fast for that nonsense!!
"House Democratic leaders have decided against using fast-track budget rules to ram through President Obama's environmental initiative known as cap and trade, FOX News has confirmed.
"The move comes as the House is about to start wading through Obama's $3.6 trillion budget Wednesday.
"Special budget rules enable lawmakers to use what's called "reconciliation" which synchs up the tax code with each year's budget needs. Budget rules are unique in Congress. And the typical Senate option of filibustering a measure is not allowed in reconciliation."
House Democratic leaders have decided against reconciliation, i.e. fast-track budget rules.
Fat chance of that. Socialists want everybody on the train downhill to communal Nirvana.
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Any economically ruinous legislation that is passed during slObama’s term with a simple majority, should be wholly subject to absolute revocation with the same simple majority.
No excuses, no compromise, no deals.
This should be our blood-oath among Conservatives.
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It dies on the slow track. They need 60 votes in the Senate now.
The List, ping
[[earth is cooling, Obama can take credit for that and I don’t care as long as he just lets us alone.]]
Despite hte earth ooling for over a decade now, Obama and dems are NOT going to leave us alone because cap-n-trade is a gargantuan golden goose for them- they smell $$, and the $$ they smell is ours- epw.senate.gov which is run by Senator Inhoffe, has a TON of scientific evidence showing that the warming spell we experienced was a purely natural one, and that we are NOT to blame, but again, the dems smell $$, and cap and trade WILL be passed, and we ALL will suffer for it- there is already talk about installing GPS systems in cars to record how many miles we drive, and we’ll be taxed if we go over an alloted milage- gasoline IS goign to go back up because businesses will be taxed and fined to death because of cap-n-trade, and will have to boost prices to compensate which will inturn cause less spending (because we won’t be able to pay hte higher prices), and the oil companies will be forced to raise prices because delivery companies will go under, people will be forced to travel less, and the oil companies will lose $$
Cheery scenario eh?
They should wait on voting on it until the next election.
Liberals just know pushing global warming legislation is easiest right before the August recess...
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Most of the blud dogs know this will kill their states and they do not support it. Obama might just have a big problem with this budget. I hope they can’t get it through at all and have to rewrite he whole thing.
That should be “bluedog”
Thanks for the ping!
That’s how I read the article also, although it is worded in a confusing manner. I believe fast track and reconciliation are the same thing and it has been ruled out for cap and trade but is still being considered for the health care bill.
Translation: They'll take their time & "boil-the-frog" instead...
>> They’re already preparing for re-election.....
Exactly. I’m not sure all the dems are willing to embrace Socialism this quickly.
environmentalism: just another branch of Armed services in the War On Capitalism, Cap & Trade , just another weapon
I think they smell a trap. A massive tax increase on every American is not the thing to Fast Track during a Government caused recession.
If they try to push this sh** through now, they may not have enough votes.
If they wait for Franken to steal Coleman's seat and Kennedy and Byrd (who voted against amnesty) to be replaced, it may be too close to the 2010 elections. And, who knows, they could lose some seats in those elections even if they stop doing damage now.
Thank you for spelling it out. This is NOT good with the Marxists in total control.
Wow, is the drunken stupor fading and the hang over setting in yet?
At least that will be from those who pay their own energy bill. Because that POS will exempt a ton of people from having to carry their own weight. Thats a given.
Cap & trade would kill hundreds of thousands of jobs, making the economic crisis worse. Even without it, unemployment is likely to hit 12% or more.
He wants to CAP our growth, and TRADE OFF our futures!
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