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Could the govenment ban guns?
Waynesville Daily Guide ^ | 24 March, 2009 | DawnDee Bostwick

Posted on 03/25/2009 5:28:12 AM PDT by marktwain

The week Barack Obama was elected president, the amount of criminal background checks related to the purchase of firearms jumped 49 percent over the previous year, FBI statistics show.

It’s a trend that hasn’t ceased to stop, as background checks for firearm purchases have continued to increase in the months following the November election, when compared to the same time a year ago. February alone witnessed a 23.3 percent jump, and January and December weren’t too far ahead, with 29 and 24 percent increases, respectively.

Fears of possible anti-gun legislation that’s being considered by the Obama administration might be contributing to the rise in sales, as well as the teeter-tottering economy. The angst seems to be somewhat legitimate, although at this time it’s unclear whether a push to reinstate the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act, commonly referred to as the “assault weapons ban” will be successful.

“Well, as President Obama indicated during the campaign, there are just a few gun-related changes we would like to make, and among them would be to reinstitute the ban on the sale of assault weapons,” Attorney General Eric Holder said during a press conference last month that focused on growing violence in Mexico.

According to the State Department, drug cartels are using “automatic weapons and grenades” in confrontations against Mexican army and police units. The idea is by putting the ban back in place, the flow of guns into Mexico would be reduced.

Enacted in 1994 under then-president Bill Clinton, the assault weapons ban prohibited 19 specific firearms in addition to the possession, manufacturing and importation of the semiautomatic assault weapons and ammunition clips with more than 10 rounds for civilian use.

Though a bill to reinstate the act hasn’t been introduced in Congress yet, and Holder hasn’t given a timeline for when that might happen, numerous other pieces of legislation have been. Six U.S. House of Representative bills are currently being considered, the most troubling of which, gun-rights advocates say, is H.R. 45, known as the Blair Holt’s Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009. If the legislation is successful, it would require a license for handguns and semiautomatic firearms, including those people already own. License applicants would have to under go a background check and take a written firearms examination, meant to test the applicant’s knowledge of safe storage and handling of guns, as well as the risks associated with the use of firearms in a home, legal responsibilities of owners of such weapons and “any other subject, as the Attorney General determines to be appropriate.”

Furthermore, “the bill would make it unlawful in nearly all cases to keep any loaded firearm for self-defense. A variety of ‘crimes by omission’... would be created. Criminal penalties of up to ten years and almost unlimited regulatory and inspection authority would be established,” according to Gun Owners of America, a non-profit lobbying organization led by former senator Bill Richardson.

The bill would also make it unlawful to sell or transfer a “qualifying firearm” to any person who is not licensed.

Other legislation includes H.R. 17 which would reaffirm the right to use firearms for self-defense and the defense of a person’s home and family; H.R. 1074 would permit the interstate sale of firearms as long as the laws of the states are complied with and adhere to federal law.

Bill Morris, Military Pro owner, said sales at his shop have increased as rumors about possible legislation circulate.

“A lot of customers are afraid that the guns they enjoy shooting so much for sports are going to be restricted,” Morris said. “A lot of the firearms people use for hunting and have used for a long time are being threatened.”

Morris, who’s owned Military Pro for five years, spent 20 years in law enforcement and said he’s been an active shooter for longer than that, shared his perspective on current legislation, noting that much of it, he doesn’t believe, is responsible.

“It’s kind of like wanting to ban a car with four wheels,” he said, noting that most vehicles do have four wheels, but that doesn’t mean all cars are dangerous. “There’s some responsibility needed when a bill is introduced so that any attempt on a firearm ban would ban something that is truly destructive rather than something blanket,” he said.

Pam Hutsell, the store’s manager, said in addition to the rise in sales, they’re finding its getting more difficult to get certain firearms as manufacturers’ have the items on backorder because of the increase in demand.

“What we’ve found is its been harder to get guns,” Hutsell said. “After the election, it seems like a lot of people were more afraid that there were going to be more (restrictions) put on guns.”

The NRA has come out against any such restrictions, and said of the proposal to make the federal assault weapons ban permanent is unnecessary.

“Studies for Congress, the Congressional Research Service, the National Institute of Justice, the National Academy of Sciences and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have found no evidence that gun prohibition or gun control reduces crime,” the NRA-ILA stated.

“Guns that were affected by the ban are used in a only a tiny fraction of violent crime — about 35 times as many people are murdered without any sort of firearm,” the organization said.

A Supreme Court decision in 2003 in the case of Washington, D.C., v Heller, reaffirmed the Second Amendment gives individuals the right to own firearms. The amendment, ratified in 1791, says, “A well regulated miltia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.” 

Though the spike in gun sales might be an early overreaction to an uncertain agenda, there’s still plenty of questions lingering that are asking what the government can, and will, actually do.

“I hear a lot of comments daily; ‘What did you hear? What did you hear?’,” Morris said. “We don’t know where it’s going because there’s so many rumors.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: ban; banglist; billmorris; guns; indiana; militarypro
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Interesting. The author actually did some research. Much better than 99% of the reporting in the MSM.
1 posted on 03/25/2009 5:28:12 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Gun legislation is a toxic issue sure to hurt the democrats in 2010.


2 posted on 03/25/2009 5:40:11 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: marktwain
Could the govenment ban guns?

They can try, but.....

3 posted on 03/25/2009 5:41:34 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: marktwain

People are buying arms and ammunition because they expect that they’re going to have to use them. And they’re right.


4 posted on 03/25/2009 5:42:20 AM PDT by Noumenon (Time for Atlas to shrug - and to pick up a gun)
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To: marktwain
It’s a trend that hasn’t ceased to stop,

Um....

5 posted on 03/25/2009 5:47:11 AM PDT by Snickersnee (Where are we going? And what's with this handbasket?)
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To: Noumenon

Since I sold all my guns recently :), I’m just buying ammo because I believe it will be currency within a few years...

Anyone know anywhere to buy 9mm?

Every place I look it’s sold out, unavailable, or backordered.


6 posted on 03/25/2009 5:49:22 AM PDT by MrB (irreconcilable: One of two or more conflicting ideas or beliefs that cannot be brought into harmony.)
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To: marktwain
Please, please, PUHLEEEZE try. Then we can put n end to the charade we now have.

Μολὼν λάβε

7 posted on 03/25/2009 5:53:31 AM PDT by wastoute (translation of tag "Come and get them (bastards)" and the Scout Motto)
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To: MrB

ammunitiontogo.com
cabelas.com

I use these bot ha lot. The stock at ammunition to go is hit and miss. You just have to see what they have in stock at the time. Cabelas will let you back order most items and they’ll ship as soon as they are back in stock.


8 posted on 03/25/2009 5:59:10 AM PDT by rocket002
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To: marktwain

Better idea.....we use our guns to ban this government.


9 posted on 03/25/2009 6:02:38 AM PDT by Howie66 (The one redeeming thing about liberals: their tendency to kill their own.)
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To: marktwain
Can the government ban guns? Sure.

Right before we change the government.

10 posted on 03/25/2009 6:05:08 AM PDT by Pistolshot (The Soap-box, The Ballot-box, The Jury-box, And The Cartridge-Box ...we are past 2 of them.)
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To: marktwain
Could the govenment ban guns?

It could try.

11 posted on 03/25/2009 6:05:51 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: marktwain

Gun bans are an interesting window in the minds of (some) liberals. Their view on gun bans, in my opinion, is an example of “magical thinking.”

They believe that banning guns will somehow make violence vanish overnight, and never give any thought to how 300 million firearms are going to be disposed of. It’s almost as if they think the legislative pen is the equivalent of a magic wand, and waving it makes the bad guns go away.


12 posted on 03/25/2009 6:15:08 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Disambiguator

Actually, they believe that banning guns will make

DISSENT

vanish.


13 posted on 03/25/2009 6:15:50 AM PDT by MrB (irreconcilable: One of two or more conflicting ideas or beliefs that cannot be brought into harmony.)
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To: MrB
Actually, they believe that banning guns will make DISSENT vanish irrelevant.
14 posted on 03/25/2009 6:30:17 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: marktwain

They can pass a Law. That does not mean it’ll be Constitutional, that it’d survive a Court challenge, or that any attempt to confiscate currently legal firearms wouldn’t pretty much trigger “Civil War II”.


15 posted on 03/25/2009 6:30:32 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (1000110010101010100001001001111)
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To: MrB

There is that, but I’m referring to the garden-variety starry-eyed moonbats.


16 posted on 03/25/2009 6:36:22 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: MrB

I visited Ron Barrett’s new gun store south of Murfreesboro TN at Exit 89 on I-24 the other day and they had a stack of cases of 9mm ammunition.


17 posted on 03/25/2009 6:39:54 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: marktwain

Of course, but could they enforce that ban?


18 posted on 03/25/2009 6:42:05 AM PDT by GBA
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To: Dead Corpse
They can pass a Law. That does not mean it’ll be Constitutional, that it’d survive a Court challenge...

When Obama finishes "lefting" the courts, the constitution will not matter any more.

19 posted on 03/25/2009 6:51:26 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed

I’m already of the opinion that the Courts are already past saving. I felt it necessary to include that for those who are still suffering the delusion that they have that option.


20 posted on 03/25/2009 6:52:49 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (1000110010101010100001001001111)
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To: marktwain; Tax-chick
It’s a trend that hasn’t ceased to stop...

All that repeated stopping makes this a hard trend to understand. Sigh.... Must be a urinalism skewl grad.

21 posted on 03/25/2009 7:16:09 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Dead Corpse

After he controls the supremes, Dont forget he said his Brownshirts will be bigger than ALL of Armed Forces and BETTER FUNDED so his mailed fist will me in evidence. He can’t control drugs but there is a lot of money involved.
Only way the gunnies can win is How?
barbra ann


22 posted on 03/25/2009 7:46:10 AM PDT by barb-tex (The new Republic of Texas will include the states of the Confederacy.)
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To: marktwain

England tried that with us in 1775. Didn’t work then, either. We changed governments. We can do it again.


23 posted on 03/25/2009 8:04:29 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberalism is Communism, and both are a mental disorder. Grow up.)
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To: Dead Corpse

That’s one more box of liberty they’ve removed.

They need to realize we’ll use whatever box of liberty we have left.

Soap Box
Ballot Box
Moving Box
Jury Box
Cartridge Box


24 posted on 03/25/2009 8:06:32 AM PDT by MrB (irreconcilable: One of two or more conflicting ideas or beliefs that cannot be brought into harmony.)
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To: marktwain

I really don’t get the idea where the government believes they can limit or ban a certain firearm for any number of arbitrary reasons, aside from “precedent,” of which the Jim Crow Laws were obviously racist in manner.


25 posted on 03/25/2009 8:18:38 AM PDT by wastedyears (April 21st, 2009 - International Iron Maiden Day)
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To: Still Thinking; Ryan Spock; TheMom; TChris; Xenalyte; Semper Vigilantis; georgiadevildog; ...
It’s a trend that hasn’t ceased to stop...

Verbal mayhem ping! I just can't visualize "hasn't ceased to stop" at all, and it's too early to apply adult beverages to the situation.

26 posted on 03/25/2009 9:06:22 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("I always expect the worst from the RATS and they always deliver." ~ rrrod)
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To: Tax-chick
It’s a trend that hasn’t ceased to stop...

Wow. Let's take this one apart, shall we, lol?

If the trend hasn't ceased, then it hasn't stopped. If it hasn't stopped, it's ongoing. So we have a trend in an ongoing stop.

So, it's stopped. Still. But, it might not always be. It's an ongoing thing.

27 posted on 03/25/2009 9:11:31 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: marktwain
It’s a trend that hasn’t ceased to stop...

Why isn't writing ability a pre-qualification to be a journalist?

*sigh*

28 posted on 03/25/2009 9:19:24 AM PDT by TChris (There is no freedom without the possibility of failure.)
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To: TChris
Stop this incessant stopping, just stop it, I say!
29 posted on 03/25/2009 9:25:05 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

I think you need a Guinness already.


30 posted on 03/25/2009 9:48:27 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("I always expect the worst from the RATS and they always deliver." ~ rrrod)
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To: Tax-chick; RegulatorCountry; TChris
A li'l something from the Department of Self-Defeating Quasi-Redundancy Department.

BTW, Could somebody give me a few really good examples of a tautology? I've always wanted to use that word correctly, and I've never been fully confident that I got it right.

31 posted on 03/25/2009 9:49:38 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Point of information.)
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To: MrB

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/browse/browseammo.aspx?c=95&s=959

They say they have Remington 9MM.


32 posted on 03/25/2009 9:53:48 AM PDT by alarm rider ("We laugh at honor, and are shocked to find traitors in our midst" C.S. Lewis)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

That’s a tough one. I know them when I see them, but I can’t think of an example right now.


33 posted on 03/25/2009 10:08:57 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("I always expect the worst from the RATS and they always deliver." ~ rrrod)
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To: marktwain
From the article: "... [the Heller decision] reaffirmed the Second Amendment gives individuals the right to own firearms. "

Untrue.

The Heller decision reaffirmed that the Second Amendment protects the pre-existing right of individuals to keep and bear arms. It's important to realize the repealing the Second Amendment would change our government but it would not change our rights.

34 posted on 03/25/2009 11:00:32 AM PDT by William Tell
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To: Tax-chick
Different subject, something to brighten thine eye:

Virgo Dei genitrix,
quem totus non capit orbis,
In tua clausit viscera
factus homo.

35 posted on 03/25/2009 11:47:53 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Point of information.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Very nice!


36 posted on 03/25/2009 1:16:18 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("I always expect the worst from the RATS and they always deliver." ~ rrrod)
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To: Snickersnee

I missed that. Well it’s not like you need an edumacation or something to be a journalist. LOL.


37 posted on 03/25/2009 1:38:31 PM PDT by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: marktwain
Morris, who’s owned Military Pro for five years, spent 20 years in law enforcement and said he’s been an active shooter for longer than that, shared his perspective on current legislation, noting that much of it, he doesn’t believe, is responsible. “It’s kind of like wanting to ban a car with four wheels,” he said, noting that most vehicles do have four wheels, but that doesn’t mean all cars are dangerous. “There’s some responsibility needed when a bill is introduced so that any attempt on a firearm ban would ban something that is truly destructive rather than something blanket,” he said.

Remind me not to place any orders for ..well..anything with Military Pro.

"Shall not be infringed" seems pretty clear to me, but obviously not ex "law enforcement" officer Morris. Guns and other arms are *supposed* to be dangerous.

38 posted on 03/25/2009 11:13:36 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: MrB
"Moving Box?" I ain't going anywhere.

"Μολών Λaβέ"

39 posted on 03/25/2009 11:18:35 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

“Moving box” refers to the ability to move to another state within the USA if the policies & laws of that state are not agreeable and you can’t affect satisfactory change.

This is one of the primary reasons the left implements all of their policies at the federal level - instinctively, they want to control you, so allowing you to move to another state to avoid that control is abhorrent to them.


40 posted on 03/26/2009 5:21:31 AM PDT by MrB (irreconcilable: One of two or more conflicting ideas or beliefs that cannot be brought into harmony.)
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To: marktwain

Could America elect an illegal alien?


41 posted on 03/26/2009 5:23:27 AM PDT by bmwcyle (American voters can fix this world if they would just wake up.)
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To: marktwain
I double dog throw down dare them to.
42 posted on 03/26/2009 5:25:32 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
BTW, Could somebody give me a few really good examples of a tautology?

A sentence or phrase that, while technically correct, states the same thing twice and then equates them, thus conveying no meaning: "If you can't find what you're looking for, you're not looking in the right place." (Check for tautology if you find yourself tempted to reply "No $hit, Sherlock!")

Less severe: A sentence that conveys meaning but is unnecessarily redundant, as "I saw it with my own eyes".

Sometimes place names where the proper name is taken from a foreign language and the geographical feature part are in English are redundant. "Laguna Lake", "Glendale".

Essentially the opposite of an oxymoron like "Microsoft Works".

43 posted on 03/26/2009 1:49:10 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: marktwain

Hey, they passed a law and made us drive 55 when Jimma Carter was President! /sarcism


44 posted on 03/26/2009 1:57:58 PM PDT by OKC Patriot ("Never Forget"!)
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To: Still Thinking; Tax-chick
Thank you, Thinking.

Hey, Tax-chick, check out #43 for some good tautologies.

The ones I could think of are: "Survival of the fittest" (because "fittest" is implicitly defined as "those who survive," so it essentially means, "Survival of those who survive.")

And the old stand-by, "A true Scot does not put sugar on his oatmeal," in all its variations. ("But Angus MacPherson of Aberdeen does!" -- "Ach, but then he's no true Scot!")

45 posted on 03/26/2009 2:54:57 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Mammalia Primatia Hominidae Homo sapiens. Still working on the "sapiens" part.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

“I made a wrong mistake” — Yogi Berra


46 posted on 03/26/2009 3:01:46 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Still Thinking; Tax-chick
In the other sense of the word tautology, Paul McCartney's

"in this everchanging world in which we live in"

surely deserves a mention.

47 posted on 03/26/2009 3:03:30 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Mammalia Primatia Hominidae Homo sapiens. Still working on the "sapiens" part.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
And the old stand-by, "A true Scot does not put sugar on his oatmeal," in all its variations. ("But Angus MacPherson of Aberdeen does!" -- "Ach, but then he's no true Scot!")

Sounds like global warming.

48 posted on 03/26/2009 3:03:33 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Still Thinking

You got it. Global “climate change”.


49 posted on 03/26/2009 3:04:23 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Mammalia Primatia Hominidae Homo sapiens. Still working on the "sapiens" part.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

That’s a good one.

Some acronyms are intentionally self-referencing, like GNU (for “Gnu’s Not Unix”; any letter would have worked as the first one)


50 posted on 03/26/2009 3:05:51 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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