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Bill to create 'Veterans Corps' moves forward in Senate
The Virginian-Pilot ^ | March 25, 2009 | Dale Eisman

Posted on 03/25/2009 7:14:26 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Senators moved Wednesday toward creation of a “Veterans Corps” of up to 5,000 paid volunteers to work on aid programs for vets, their families and the families of active-duty troops.

The corps is part of a group of national service initiatives backed by the Obama administration and an unusual bipartisan coalition in Congress. Participants would work directly with veterans and bolster existing aid programs run by state and local governments and non-profit groups.

With civilian jobs increasingly hard to come by, the corps would give people leaving the military another way of serving their country and staying off the unemployment line, said U.S. Sen. Mark Warner, a Virginia Democrat.

Warner introduced legislation last week to create the corps, then lobbied to have it incorporated into a larger bill expanding the AmeriCorps service program, which was launched during the mid-1990s. His proposal is similar to a Veterans Corps plan approved by the House in its version of the national service bill.

In addition to Veterans Corps, the combined bills would create an education corps, a healthy futures corps, and a clean-energy service corps.

The legislation also would provide federal aid for colleges and universities that include service programs in their academic offerings in nursing, medicine, criminal justice, and public policy.

The combined bills, which would add 175,000 people to the AmeriCorps workforce over five years, would cost $5.7 billion over that period. The current legislation approves the program, but the money will have to come from a separate appropriations bill.

One opponent, Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Ok., complained Monday that the program is too expensive. “It’s not paid for… What are we going to eliminate?” he asked.

But the AmeriCorps idea enjoys the support of President Obama and a broad, bipartisan coalition led by liberal Democrat Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts and conservative Republican Orrin Hatch of Utah.

Warner said his interest in the Veterans Corps effort grows in part out of work he did as governor to streamline the state’s veterans’ service efforts. The Old Dominion ranks eighth among the states in veteran population, with just over 800,000 vets.

Like other jobs provided through AmeriCorps, Veterans Corps positions would carry a modest “living allowance” – exact amounts vary.

Warner acknowledged that could limit participation by vets who leave the service with growing families, an increasingly common occurrence in today’s military. Some of the jobs created would be in rural areas, where living costs often are relatively low, he added.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 111th; agenda; americorps; bho44; bhoveterans; congress; economy; gatheringofeagles; maf; markwarner; nationalservice; obama; unemployment; veterans; walterreed; wot
I'm of two minds about this particular piece of the GIVE Act.
1 posted on 03/25/2009 7:14:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“and conservative Republican Orrin Hatch of Utah”

WHY would a single Republican support Obama’s totalitarian brigades? Don’t they have a clue what they are voting for?


2 posted on 03/25/2009 7:23:10 PM PDT by wk4bush2004 (SARAH PALIN, 2012!!!!!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Senators moved Wednesday toward creation of a “Veterans Corps” of up to 5,000 paid volunteers to work on aid programs...

What exactly is a "paid volunteer"?

3 posted on 03/25/2009 7:31:19 PM PDT by fullchroma (I want my country back.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
So the bureaucrats, afraid to hire MORE bureaucrats, to actually DO the work they're already being paid to do....are going to call them a CORPS?!! somebody needs to put this suffering beast out of its misery.
4 posted on 03/25/2009 7:31:19 PM PDT by mo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is just a ploy to get acceptance by the conservatives that teleprompter-boy doesn’t think are smart enough to notice it as a socialist project.


5 posted on 03/25/2009 7:32:54 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (To stand up for Capitalism is to hope Teleprompter Boy fails.)
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To: wk4bush2004

I’m from Utah. He makes a huge deal of being friends with the Democrats. Tries to upstage McCain in that regard. Has a special soft spot for Kennedy and any legislation proposed by him.


6 posted on 03/25/2009 7:34:11 PM PDT by Sundog (The founding fathers understood what would happen when all three branches of government failed.)
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To: Sundog

“He makes a huge deal of being friends with the Democrats”

Oh, lovely, another reach-across-the-aisle RINO. The GOP really needs to clean house!


7 posted on 03/25/2009 7:35:52 PM PDT by wk4bush2004 (SARAH PALIN, 2012!!!!!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
'I'm of two minds about this particular piece of the GIVE Act.'

I'm not. I don't care if my DD-214's say I was discharged 25 years or 25 days ago. I'll be gaddamned if I'm 'volunteering' to be a Gruppenführer in any korps this demi-Nazi is trying to hitch to his false illusion of Amerikan 'patriotism'. F*ck him and his Volks Korps.


8 posted on 03/25/2009 7:38:16 PM PDT by Viking2002
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“5,000 paid volunteers”

Volunteers get paid? Where do I apply for my back wages? I’ve volunteered since high school.


9 posted on 03/25/2009 7:42:31 PM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: Viking2002
"I'm not. I don't care if my DD-214's say I was discharged 25 years or 25 days ago. I'll be gaddamned if I'm 'volunteering' to be a Gruppenführer in any korps this demi-Nazi is trying to hitch to his false illusion of Amerikan 'patriotism'. F*ck him and his Volks Korps. "

Ditto!

10 posted on 03/25/2009 7:45:26 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This Veteran’s Corps sounds like Mugabe’s land siezure thugs in Zimbawe. This scheme does not respect or benefit our veterans.


11 posted on 03/25/2009 7:51:03 PM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Clean Energy Corps could employ the chronically unemployed and illegals awaiting deportation in crews peddling rows of stationary bicycles with generators producing emission-free electric power.
12 posted on 03/25/2009 7:51:39 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: wk4bush2004

Part of his last campaign advertisement material included a CD of him singing songs he had composed.

I’m waiting for his Ode to Ted


13 posted on 03/25/2009 7:52:34 PM PDT by Sundog (The founding fathers understood what would happen when all three branches of government failed.)
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To: Viking2002

What I meant was that it seems to help some returning vets. I’d never do it because the price is too high and there are almost assuredly all kinds of strings attached.


14 posted on 03/25/2009 7:54:45 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (In honor of my late father-Gysgt/Comm. Chief, USMC WWII, Korea 1925-2002)
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I never get past the ‘paid volunteer’ part. No wonder so many young people sit around refusing to do anything until they hear what’s in it for them.


15 posted on 03/25/2009 7:56:11 PM PDT by JavaJumpy
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To: Brad from Tennessee

If they’re eating beans and frijoles, I doubt if it’d be anywhere near “emmission-free” don’t you think?


16 posted on 03/25/2009 7:56:18 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (In honor of my late father-Gysgt/Comm. Chief, USMC WWII, Korea 1925-2002)
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To: Viking2002

Agreed! As much as I love vets (being one myself, and my oldest son as well)I utterly refuse to endorse or support ANY effort Der Fuhrer proposes.
I have no words for the disgust I feel whenever Zero opens his stinking mouth!


17 posted on 03/25/2009 8:06:37 PM PDT by 95 Bravo ("Freedom is not free.")
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[If they’re eating beans and frijoles. . .]

Maybe a process could be found to collect this gas and use it as a fuel.

18 posted on 03/25/2009 8:10:30 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
C'mon, dog. Do you really think there's anything intrinsically valuable - or even above the board - in the bone they're trying to throw veterans (returning or not)? They just tried to make Purple Heart recipients pay for their own care and rehab, for God's sake. The whole thing is a MacGuffin to advance their own agenda. The price of that 'help' you refer to would make Shylock go after the lot of them with a street-sweeper. At least Bill Clinton tried to act the part. These sub-simians are so full of hubris, they just throw it out there as an act of social fiat.


19 posted on 03/25/2009 8:19:50 PM PDT by Viking2002
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
More government "make work" jobs. WPA-2009. Money confiscated from the taxpayers that forces private employers to lay off employees and the government to pick them up. The difference is the government jobs are all labor expense. They produce nothing.
20 posted on 03/25/2009 8:36:24 PM PDT by Myrddin
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The service officers at the VFW and American Legion won’t appreciate obuma trying to muscle in on their territory. The service officers I know are well versed in their jobs and don’t need some idiot bureaucrat jerking their chains. In all likelyhood, these veteran corps “volunteers” will be used to frustrate and barricade veterans from receiving what they’re owed. Hell, wouldn’t surprise me to see code pink manning these positions.


21 posted on 03/26/2009 5:36:03 AM PDT by sergeantdave (obuma is the anti-Lincoln, trying to re-establish slavery)
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To: Viking2002

I’m in agreement with you. I see what you mean. This is how they divide and conquer with little trinkets for every “special interest group” to get them onboard the socialist program. That’s all they think of veterans, by the way, as another “special interest group” just like homosexuals, welfare recipients, illegals, womyn and drug addicts. I was a veteran’s career counselor from 1988 to 2000, so it’s natural for me to want them (us) to get everything they deserve, but you’re right, with this guy, the price is too high!!


22 posted on 03/26/2009 8:19:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (In honor of my late father-Gysgt/Comm. Chief, USMC WWII, Korea 1925-2002)
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Like most things sounds like a good idea but it isn’t. There are already a lot of good groups doing things things and now the govt program will put them out of business.


23 posted on 04/15/2009 11:18:19 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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