Skip to comments.Drug Agents Raid SF Medical Marijuana Clinic (Haha, DEA thumbs Zero in the eye)
Posted on 03/25/2009 11:26:54 PM PDT by LibWhacker
One week after President Barack Obama's top law enforcement official seemed to indicate the feds would no longer raid pot clubs, DEA agents busted a medical marijuana facility in San Francisco Wednesday night.
As agents carried large plastic containers of marijuana plants out of Emmalyn's California Cannabis Clinic at 1597 Howard Street, a small crowd of protesters formed a gauntlet outside the door, booing the agents and chanting, "our medicine is marijuana listen to Obama!"
DEA spokeswoman Casey McEnry told CBS 5 the documents regarding the raid are sealed, so the DEA was not able to give any details.
"Based on our investigation we believe there are not only violations of federal law, but state law as well," said DEA Special Agent in Charge Anthony D. Williams in a written statement.
Emmalyn's has a provisional permit from the city, according to Eileen Shields, spokesperson for the San Francisco Department of Public Health, which she said is an indication the club is in good standing with city laws.
Brendan Hallanin, the pot club's attorney, said Emmalyn's is in compliance with state and local laws.
"They are well-respected and have a good reputation in the medical marijuana community," said Hallanin, who added the business has never been raided in its five year existence.
Hallanin said the DEA would not tell him why the club was being busted.
"They're going to have a huge fight on their hands if they're arbitrarily busting clubs that are in compliance with state and local laws," said Hallanin.
Kris Hermes, spokesperson for Americans for Safe Access, a national advocacy group for medical marijuana issues, wants the attorney general to explain the DEA's actions.
"We're shocked that after the Attorney General has made repeated statements that raids on California medical cannibis dispensaries would be suspended that we are seeing a continuation of that policy," said Hermes.
medical marijuana is already legal and available by prescription. it’s called Marinol
Rev up the Drug War and throw everyone who has ever smoked pot into the Big House for Life!
great plan ; totally stop and repress all attempts to produce or provide the evil weed from American resources . Keep the market wide open for our lovely Mexicano amigos who are more than happy to keep up the supply for the demand . Why this idea could even become a part of NAFTA .
Nancy Reagan tried Just say No . How about just say forget it ?
I have given it to patients many times.
I don’t care a whit about the law. It is applied selectively to us and not them. I decide what is right and wrong in my life, not politicians. I’ll smoke if I want to.
The left considers themselves above the law. Obama morality.
when you look at the origins of the laws in the first place and the cowardice to change anything , any way , ever....
I just can’t help but see the correlations to Prohibition .
Did that stop anybody from drinking ? It sure caused a lot of dead people and criminal behaviors . Allow it , tax it and may el Diablo take our Mexicano amigos and their mota .
“We’re shocked that after the Attorney General has made repeated statements that raids on California medical cannibis dispensaries would be suspended that we are seeing a continuation of that policy,”
Good. Seems some white boys aren’t “cowards” and running from the Black white hating AG.
Stuff your policy, change the law or shut up... or are you just a coward?
“Allow it , tax it”
other countries did that and it didn’t work. How about this idea: let’s get tough on crime for a change. None of this liberal softness.
And is it inferior to smoking a joint in any medical manner?
It is inferior in a few ways. First if you are nauseous or vomiting it will not stay down long enough to work. Second I have been told from my cancer patients that is does not stimulate the appetite like smoking it, but it still gets one high like smoking it.
Sorry, but this is a classic state’s rights issue. Legalized and grown within a state and not transported (other than illegally) across state boundaries? Whether or not we agree with pot use, it’s not the federal government’s business. When the SCOTUS allows the federal government to regulate pot use in one state simply because some of that pot might potentially be transported across the border into an adjacent state, that’s an extreme reading of the Commerce Clause.
DEA thumbs Zero in the eye, here, but Naughty Nancy Pelosi’s still asking for it. (House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Thursday that she was standing by her statement that enforcement of some existing immigration laws is “un-American.”) What I’d like to see is one of Cartman’s Serbian Jew Double Bluffs. Exchange addresses.
Please, just once, just for laughs, could we see Drug Enforcement Agency agents swoop into a midwestern meat packer’s break room whilst the Immigration cops simultaneously turn out a nearby meth lab? Split-screen it on YouTube? Hee-larious!
I understand your point, however, the law is written by corrupt men, and it is applied with inequality. I don’t care what it states, I know what is right and what is wrong, and I lead my life according to those values. I do not need the instruction of criminals and tyrants.
Marinol will be able to replace marijuana for nausea control when it’s available as patch or inhaler. Pills arent much good if theyre puked up.
Firstly, do you need a law to tell you not to speed past a school? What if you struck a child doing that? The sign and the cop mean nothing, think of the life you are endangering, then adjust your speed accordingly.
However, if you choose to ignore an existing law, such as the one I ignore when I occasionally smoke, then don’t get caught!
And doobies or Marinol is the best medicine we have in these cases?
It was 9 years ago.
My late wife had esophageal cancer. It quickly spread to her stomach. It wasnt long before eating became painful and I had to feed her primarily through a J-tube. Anything she did eat (very small, well chewed bites, soft food) would come back up because of nausea. She lost weight fast. Anti-nausea pills were tried, but they too came back up. It was suggested she try smoking pot. It worked, and didnt take much. She was able to hold food down and gained some weight back - until she watched an episode of Cops on TV. It showed a pot raid, broken windows, smashed doors and guns. The take was a small bag of pot. She became paranoid and flushed the rest of the pot.
It was back to vomiting several times a day. If she had been able to maintain her weight she might have had a chance of surviving.
It looks like the federal behemoth has no — er — “controlling authority”. Look for further discrepancies between what the guys at the top say and what the unelected federal bureaucracies do.
O is not in charge; the entire federal government is running on auto-pilot.
If they haven’t paid in full, these guys should also be indicted for tax evasion.
It would all just be so much more honest for everybody involved if weed was legalized.
I think it’s obvious why the left supports state’s rights on this issue. Nevertheless, I agree with them. Except for the clearly enumerated and limited powers granted by the US Constitution, the federal government has absolutely no business telling states what to do within their own borders.
There are a few other medications for nausea some of them have side effects like they can cause cancer because they are filled with carcinogenics. Another will cause vascular narcoses if the IV blows, and if you take orals they will come back up. If you did not know alcohol is far worse to put in your body then pot. You can OD easy on alcohol but you can not OD from pot. Well that's a lie you can OD one pot all you have to do is smoke 1500 lbs. in 15 minutes they you might OD from the THC, but you would be dead from smoke inhalation. Whoever if you could smoke 1500lbs. of pot in 15 minutes you would be so high you would not care man. Pot has many medical benefits the only problem is that to many Americans hate it when people have to much fun and that is the real reason it is ban. Pot is almost harmless and is also much safer then a Cigarette.
The pot in these venues is very high end, oftentimes grown hydroponically with out soil. It is expensive. Mexican pot is super low end, costing about a fifth of this stuff. Also, mexican pot is far less powerful. You will not find mexican pot in these venues. It would be like a Maserati dealer having an old Ford Pinto in his lot next to his other cars.
Brendan Hallanin, the pot club’s attorney, said Emmalyn’s is in compliance with state and local laws.
Terence’s son, former City DA? no surprise here.
Obama .. sowing the seeds of discord in another community.. and then blowing smoke to cover his own ineptness.
Had she tried Marinol?
Mexican pot is greatly compressed in order to smuggle it in. This pot ends up flat and smashed by the time it gets to the user, and is also oftentimes very stale, as it takes a longer time to get to market, and while in transit is exposed to extremes in temperature and humidity.
This "flatness" cannot be undone. Once it is squished, it remains squished, and it is obvious by its' squishness that it has been compressed. Oh, and it is brown and smells of dirt and sweat.
By abusing the product in this manner, the active ingredient is degraded, thus lowering its' value. Mexican pot producers/smugglers are not concerned about this decrease because their business model values quantity over quality.
Domestic growers have a different business model. They value quality. The pot you get from them is a totally different animal: fluffy, green, and smelling of skunk. To compact and bruise their product would cause a decrease in quality and thus income. Also, compaction is not necessary because it is not smuggled long distances.
Also, unknown to you, their are two different kinds of pot: Cannabis Sativa and Cannabis Indica. The two look very dissimilar. Mexican is always Sativa, because that subspecies thrives in hot, arid environments. A farmer can "broadcast" seeds into his field and know that they will grow with a minimum of care. These plants will produce seeds because the male and female plants interact. Domestic pot tends to be Indica, which prefers a cooler, more temperate environment. Indica suffers in a very hot environment and cannot be grown in most of Mexico. Also, domestic growers strive to produce a seed-free product and will kill the male plants as soon as the display their sex, as the presence of seeds reduces the value of their product. As a result, domestic pot costs MANY TIMES what mexi pot costs.
Because of the factors cited above, it is very easy to tell the difference between the two types of pot by simple visual inspection, and why I consider your thesis ludicrous. (your thesis being "high quality Indica coming from Mexico, sold as medical pot, and thus benefitting drug lords")
To sum up, you may dispute me according to what you have read, but I will dispute YOU based on what I have seen and experienced with my own eyes over the span of 20 years of smoking all types of pot. You are entitled to your own opinions, but you are not entitled to your own facts, and I hope this helps cure you of some of your ignorance.
Hey, is that a dare? Don't tempt me!
And often on American public lands that they booby trap and guard with armed illegals. Not that the dopers mind.
As for Mexicans growing pot in the U.S., I think that is, indeed, a problem, and I oppose the domestic production of pot by foreigners. I think this problem is just a subset of a larger problem: Illegal aliens roming free across the land. However, if my platform was adopted, the problem would melt away very quickly. I propose shooting noncitizen drug dealers/producers after a speedy trial. All of them. In public.
As for your comment "Oh, Mexican dope is horrible! Nobody would want to smoke that!", I think the answer is simple supply and demand. If another product was available, consumers would buy it. I live in a border state, and my city is awash in Mexican pot. It is what is commonly available. If there was better/other, folks would buy it.
Believe me when I say the thought of supporting drug lords sickens me.
Regarding my lengthy treatise on pot, it was simply an attempt to educate and inform about the different strains available, and their associated traits, traits that hint at their origin. I did not reference "problems on the border" or "Mexican drug gangs trying to smuggle their dope north!", but rather the dynamic of Mexican pot and the reason it is a totally different animal than domestic pot.
With the increase in domestically-grown-by-Mexicans pot, these rules become less of an absolute, but are still a good guide.
Actually, I have a solutuion to the problems on the border, but it involves drastic measures which are too severe for most Americans; it involves guns and minefields, and maybe even sharks with frickien lasers on their heads.
You might agree with this comment: I think the problem is not pot per se, but rather the fact that it supports foreign criminals and narcoterrorists. If we could eliminate them from the loop, most of your (and my) moral qualms may subside a tad.
You call me a pothead, and perhaps that is an accurate descriptor, but I am absolute in my belief that pot should be kept away from children, and not glamourized in the media. It is, indeed, a vice. But then again, all of that also applies to Guinness beer, another vice of mine.
Also, I grew up in San Francisco and have seen firsthand how pot eases the suffering of people who are gonna die soon anyway. I am not a big fan of the gays, but I think it is abhorrent to deny an AIDS sufferer a method of increasing appetite and reducing nausea. (a method that cost pennies compared to the pharmacueticals pushed by Big Pharma). The same goes for the (more numerous) cancer victims. My mother's suffering could have been greatly mitigated by pot, but she would not use it because she was a big Law and Order person. I watched her whither away; she was destined to die anyway, as the cancer had spread to her brain and was inoperable, but who is to say that her final weeks could have been just little less painful?
Answer: you, and the government.
“medical marijuana is already legal and available by prescription. its called Marinol”
Yes, the whole reason medical marijuana is illegal is because the big drug companies can’t profit from it. So they come up with “marinol”...just so they can profit.. it is so stupid. The same reason vaccinations are “required”. More $ for drug companies...
Yes - pills would cause vomiting. It would come up before it could work. Anything she put in her stomach came up.
This is absolute horse manure. They don't sell crappy Mexican brickweed at those clubs. They sell expensive pot, the fancy indoor grown stuff with strain names like “White Widow,” “Bubblegum,” etc. They sell mostly indica, not dirt cheap seedy Mexican sativa. If they sold “shwag” they'd go out of business. People can get cheap Mexican anywhere. They go to those clubs to get their fancy organic sticky buds that cost and arm and a leg. John Walters is full of crap. He's either ignorant or lying. It is absolutely true that lots of Mexican pot is sold in this country, thousands of tons of it, but not at medical marijuana dispensaries. Those places sell expensive high grade marijuana, and pot smokers can darned sure tell the difference between fluffy seedless sticky buds with pungent aromas and seedy compressed Mexican dirt weed that smells like moldy socks. John Walters lies because he's a liar. The Mexicans are probably lying because medical marijuana is cutting into their business. It probably is cutting into their business, all these people with medical marijuana cards growing their own and sometimes selling some of what they grow and going to dispensaries to buy it. This is definitely preferable to funding Mexican organized crime.
My response to another poster blows your “argument” into a puff of smoke. Read. Rinse and repeat. And next time you post, do so in an unaltered state so it at appears that you are capable of making sense. And not repeating and stuff.
I can see why the DEA wants to hang on to their marijuana clinic gigs, its the only thing they haven’t completely failed at. Only in government could such an incompetent collection of idiots keep their job.
End the failed drug war.
You've got nothing but insults and recycled propaganda from that liar John Walters. There is no evidence whatsoever that much if any Mexican grown pot is being sold at these establishments. The facts point to a different conclusion. Most of it is grown here by Americans. Your argument is about as lame as the argument that Mexican cartels are buying all their fully automatic weapons, hand grenades and grenade launchers and so on here. It's just more b.s.