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No: California does not need any more stoners
San Diego Union - Tribune ^ | 3/26/09 | Jim Gogek

Posted on 03/26/2009 10:13:28 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

The romance with weed is never-ending for California marijuana devotees. Now, they claim their beloved drug can save the state by solving its unrelenting budget nightmare.

State legislation is afoot to legalize and tax marijuana to backfill the state budget. But, like the grandiose daydreams of a stoner, the reality of this plan would be far different from its vision. I won't go all “Reefer Madness” on you or claim that hemp T-shirts are a slippery slope to damnation. The problem with marijuana legalization is simpler and worse.

California cannot afford more stoned people, especially stoned young people. We need a lot fewer stoned people.

Prevention experts understand the problem with legalization: The greater the access to an intoxicant, the more abuse there will be of that intoxicant. Alcohol isn't the most dangerous drug in the world because it's worse than heroin or cocaine. It's the most dangerous drug because it's so easily accessible. You can get large quantities of it anywhere, and cheaply, too. Underage drinking is a big problem because kids can get alcohol so easily.

Legal marijuana would mean more access to marijuana. The number of marijuana users would spike, including teens.

Problems related to marijuana use would spike. Marijuana lobbyists argue that if a dangerous drug such as alcohol is legal, then marijuana should be, too. I've never understood that. With all the problems we have with alcohol, why would we want to legalize another intoxicant?

Right now, there are 127 million alcohol users and 14 million marijuana users in this country – because one is legal and the other isn't. But, most alcohol users don't get intoxicated. About one-fifth of alcohol users binge drink or regularly drink heavily.

The serious problems from alcohol occur when people get intoxicated. With marijuana, you get intoxicated every time you use it. That's the whole point. Marijuana intoxication and alcohol intoxication may be different, but both are bad for society.

Marijuana intoxication means cognitive impairment, grandiosity, short-term memory loss, difficulty in carrying out complex mental processes and impaired judgment. It severely hurts your ability to perform at school and work. It saps initiative and drive. It increases confusion. In other words, it makes you stupid.

An increase in stoners among California's young people and work force would be very bad for the state. Right now, we're in a recession in which people without college degrees are losing jobs twice as fast as people with college degrees. Our future economy will be based on innovation, education and highly skilled labor.

But we're already not producing enough college graduates for our future work-force needs. With many more stoned teens and young people, the problems of an unskilled, uneducated and unmotivated work force will get worse.

Stoned people can't learn or work very well. Marijuana is the loser drug: That's the big problem with it.

What about the idea that California can balance its budget by legalizing marijuana and taxing the heck out of it? You haven't been paying attention to special-interest politics if you believe that.

Moneyed special interests run policy in this state. Look what happened when California criminal justice policies made prison guards one of the most powerful lobbies in the state. The union quickly began dictating policy in its own interest.

The alcohol industry is so powerful in California that beer taxes haven't increased in nearly 20 years; the last time they were raised was by a minuscule amount and the industry almost killed that. A wealthy marijuana industry will soon co-opt policy-makers and dictate how much tax we charge, where we sell the product and who gets to buy it. Why would a marijuana industry be different from any other special interest?

Personally, I don't think the marijuana lobby believes its own arguments. When I talk to legalization proponents, it usually boils down to their angry demand that people should be left alone to get stoned if they want to. That libertarian sentiment shows a complete disregard for the public good. If legalizers can't understand that, elected policy-makers certainly should.

The disingenuousness of the marijuana lobby becomes clear on the subject of medical marijuana. For marijuana lobbyists to push both recreational marijuana and medicinal marijuana at the same time is duplicitous. It's nakedly obvious where their real desires lie.

Recreational drug use and medical drug use have nothing in common. If pharmaceutical lobbyists pushed recreational and medical use of the same drug, they'd get hauled before Congress and slammed by state attorneys. But the marijuana lobby sees nothing wrong with its tactics.

How about a little more candor from marijuana romantics? Like the panhandler standing on a street corner with a sign that says, “Why lie? I just want a beer.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: California
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1 posted on 03/26/2009 10:13:28 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Goodness. The San Diego Tribune makes sense from one end of the article to the other.


2 posted on 03/26/2009 10:16:06 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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The SD U-T has one of the few editorial boards in the state that have a clue occasionally.


3 posted on 03/26/2009 10:18:41 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: Cicero

I really don’t understand how they would enforce tax collection on marijuana if it was legalized. It is so cheap to grow and there is an existing tax-free distribution system. Just how would the state tap into that?


4 posted on 03/26/2009 10:19:38 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: NormsRevenge

5 posted on 03/26/2009 10:20:46 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (True nobility is exempt from fear - Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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To: NormsRevenge

I’d be for legalizing pot if everyone who did something under its influence had the same thing done to them three-times over in return.

If you smoke and drive and run into something, you get three times the damage done to your stuff. If you maim someone, you lose three times the functionality. If you kill someone, well, you die.


6 posted on 03/26/2009 10:21:22 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Cancel liberal newspaper, magazine & cable TV subscriptions (Free TV-dtv.gov). Stop funding the MSM.)
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To: NormsRevenge

How is it that Fornicalia can clamp down on Winstons but not on Mad Dog 20/20?


7 posted on 03/26/2009 10:21:35 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: NormsRevenge

As we all know - no one who smokes weed can be productive or successful! This must be left up to the state.


8 posted on 03/26/2009 10:22:04 AM PDT by The Worthless Miracle (I will not gird my loins for Joe Biden.)
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To: Oldexpat
I really don’t understand how they would enforce tax collection on marijuana if it was legalized. It is so cheap to grow and there is an existing tax-free distribution system. Just how would the state tap into that?

Where there's a will, there's a way, be sure of it.

9 posted on 03/26/2009 10:22:06 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (True nobility is exempt from fear - Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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To: NormsRevenge

Bull shite


10 posted on 03/26/2009 10:22:48 AM PDT by Darwin Fish (God invented evolution. Man invented religeon.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I’ve never used drugs however I’m sure there are many successful people who smoke marijuana. The fact is that most drug users are not high-achievers and quite often they are on some kind of public assistance. Walking around stoned all day simply isn’t going to propel anyone through life unless they are a member of the Grateful Dead or Phish.


11 posted on 03/26/2009 10:22:48 AM PDT by TSgt (Extreme vitriol and rancorous replies served daily. - Mike W USAF)
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Marijuana intoxication means cognitive impairment, grandiosity, short-term memory loss, difficulty in carrying out complex mental processes and impaired judgment. It severely hurts your ability to perform at school and work. It saps initiative and drive. It increases confusion.

Did anybody else read this and immediately think O'bama?

12 posted on 03/26/2009 10:24:32 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Oldexpat
Just how would the state tap into that?

Just like they do with booze now. Make it illegal to sell without gov't stamp. For over 200 years the feds and their state counterparts have done a (mostly) effective job at stopping moonshiners.

Last week in Tennessee a moonshiner killed himself rather than go to prison.

13 posted on 03/26/2009 10:27:53 AM PDT by Martin Tell (ask for the ancient paths, ask where the good way is, and walk in it)
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To: NormsRevenge

Ah yes, here come the Drug Warriors (Armchair Brigade).


14 posted on 03/26/2009 10:28:22 AM PDT by Seruzawa (Obamalama lied, the republic died.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Getting marijuana is now easy enough that almost anybody who sets his will to it can score.

Where this marijuana comes from is a different bothersome question. It used to be clandestine local growers, who varied in their viciousness. Now Mexican thugs have pumped the country full of cheap and strong marijuana, and we see someone kidnapped daily in Phoenix because of it. (That poor person should move to Maine. Bada-bing.)

Like the failed alcohol prohibition, it seems to have become a question of not whether, but how, people will get their pot.


15 posted on 03/26/2009 10:29:06 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: Cicero
Marijuana lobbyists argue that if a dangerous drug such as alcohol is legal, then marijuana should be, too. I've never understood that. With all the problems we have with alcohol, why would we want to legalize another intoxicant?

Because the problems from alcohol are worse, the auther admits, so to should we go back to alcohol prohibition?

16 posted on 03/26/2009 10:29:19 AM PDT by IDFbunny
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To: MikeWUSAF

>I’m sure there are many successful people who smoke marijuana.

sure there are.


17 posted on 03/26/2009 10:33:02 AM PDT by bill1952 (Power is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: IDFbunny
the auther admits, so to should we go back to alcohol prohibition?

You sound stoned.

18 posted on 03/26/2009 10:34:08 AM PDT by bill1952 (Power is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: bill1952

Everybody must get stoned!


19 posted on 03/26/2009 10:34:59 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: bill1952

(Just kidding)


20 posted on 03/26/2009 10:35:20 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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