Skip to comments.Official: Mexico not in danger of collapse ('Make your prediction here! thread)
Posted on 03/26/2009 1:55:02 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
WASHINGTON The Mexican government is not on the verge of collapse, the top U.S. intelligence official said Thursday, seeking to tamp down increasing alarm over the powerful and violent drug cartels operating in the country that is the United States' southern neighbor.
"Mexico is in no danger of becoming a failed state," said National Intelligence Director Dennis Blair at his first news conference Thursday.
Echoing the assessment of Mexico's leaders, Blair said the dramatic increase in killings in Mexico is a result of that government's crackdown on drug cartels.
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depends on what you mean by ‘verge’.
With Obama at the helm, it’s possible the U.S. will fall before Mexico does.
It’s been in danger of collapse or mob rule for years.
Corrupt politicians. Drug/Crime cartels. Bandits rule the country-side. Military rules self.
Nationalization has sapped the resources and squandered them
Collapse is inevitable. Whether this year or next.
No mention of how far North the drug cartels tentacles reach.. Try Canada.
darn I am from Texas and I think there are several parts of northern Mexico almost controlled by Narcos now
The government is corrupt and in bed with the narco traffickers. There is nothing to collapse.
If you have to deny it, it is probably true.
There are no drug cartels in Mexico, none!
Fixed it. ;)
Rule of thumb: if you have to SAY it isn't, then it probably IS. Just sayin'.
“Don’t believe a rumor until it is officially denied.”
I've nothing to say to you except: brilliant minds think alike.
What if a whole country collapsed and nobody could tell the difference?
What’s the over/under on this?
That’s exactly what I was thinking...
What will we call him? “Guadalajara Bob”?
“Mexico is in no danger of becoming a failed state”.....
That’s not the point, Bozo!....Mexico could simply back away from the border area and give up leaving all of it to the drug gangs. Then the U.S. would have to deal with it....Are these politicians really this stupid?
If the Mexican government said this, I would get out of the country by the next day...
Translation: “Mexico is on the verge of collapse.”
How about “Juarez Juan”? And maybe someone can Photoshop his insignia and backdrop to Mexican ones.
We all like to joke about Mexico, but in reality Mexico is a fairly important country. (It has the 11th largest economy in the world, believe it or not.) The narcotraficanto troubles in the north of Mexico, while serious, are more regional in nature than national, affecting only 7 or 8 of Mexico’s states (it has 31). Corruption is endemic across Mexico, of course, but the local citizens, cops, and gangsters in most places have established a modus vivendi that keeps everyday life more or less normal.
One approach to fixing Mexico’s drug and economic problems (along with our border problem) would be for the Mexican federal government to cede the northernmost seven states to us. Once under US law, these states could be cleaned of large-scale narcoterrorists and corrupt officials and given extensive tax breaks along with infrastructure support. All this done well could see these “top seven” states achieving U.S. style order and prosperity levels within a decade or so, giving Uncle Sam plenty of new taxpayers, a demographic bonanza, and vast new resources, including minerals, agricultural land, and several excellent ports.
Yes. And a permanent Democrat majority.
cede the northernmost seven states to us. Once under US law, these states could be cleaned of large-scale narcoterrorists and corrupt officials and given extensive tax breaks along with infrastructure support.
Good idea. I think those states are where a lot of the new industry has been built.
Maybe Hillary would be willing to take it on personally to clean them up. I know she moans over how we to the North provide the demand for all the drugs the cartels delivers.
I think by not on verge he means within the next few hours...
Next week? He’s not so sure on
Funny (although not in a Ha Ha way) I was just posting a thread about the importance of thinking outside of comforting conventional wisdom.
>>On the other hand, should the Allies abandon such snug security and launch an attack of their own, just as much power and strength and cunning, multiplied many times over, would avail them nothing. The German Siegfried linenot 10 miles away is just, as redoubtable, just as impossible to penetrate, as the French fortifications.<<
So what has changed in the past month?
First person I thought of was Baghdad Bob when I read the headline. Figured he got hired by the Mexican government for PR. Musta got parole.
And several parts of South Texas, too.
I’ve always thought we should just annex 10 miles a year. In a decade we’d have a port on the Sea of Cortze and all of the lawless border regions would be tamed. To the liberals that are unable to judge one nation/culture/political/econimic system better than another just take a quick comparison of Arizona and Sonora or San Diego and Tijuana. 170 Years ago they were all Mexican.
half of mexico is here now
The agit-prop coming out of Mehico has ONE purpose only. Mexico's drug war is produced and directed by drugged-up federale war profiteers----with a cast of thousands. The drugged-up profiteers are salivating to get their hands on US tax dollars.
ITEM The connivers are creating a new class of "latino refugee" seeking "political asylum" in the US----once reserved for those claiming religious or political persecution.
ITEM Espanola con artists have been planning this for a long time. The sob stories are so bogus.....they whine as they sneak over our borders, acting like "god's children looking for a better life." Doing menial jobs cheap is part of the con game.
ITEM Now they are in high gear-----using scare tactics to alarm the US into getting involved in Third World problems---problems that are of their own making.
WHO'S KIDDING WHO? The Third World deliberately foments social unrest---manipulating drug activities and gang warfare on US soil for a targeted goal.
Echos of conniving Mideast greed resound south of the border.....wadda ya wanna bet the pukeneos are part of this scam? These jerks never saw an immigrant they didn't like---whether from eastern Europe, the Soviet bloc, or the Third World south of the border.
The espanolas are using the same playbook as Mideast connivers----the well-worn chapter entititled "How To Dupe the US Into Pouring Trillions Into Your Country." The con job entails faking that they "can't govern"....that they are "helpless victims."
This con sure works good in the Mideast---some of those lowlifes have been operating for years and are STILL too stupid to govern themselves.....UNLESS US tax dollars are pouring in.
CON ALERT Now watch the espanolas use tried and true Mideast cons to get US tax dollars flowing:
1. Victimization----never fails.
2. Baiting "enemies" of the US to attack their Third World hellholes (or, more precisely, people THEY claim are US enemies) in order to dupe the US to step in, and step up the dollar flow.
3. Sending espanola government agents masquerading as drug lords into the countryside to foment unrest.
4. Populating the US with espanola government agents to agitate for US govt involvement to trigger the flow of US tax dollars.
The federale warmongers are salivating to get their hands on trillions of US tax dollars. The highest levels of conniving Third World governments are pepetrating a con to get US dollars flowing into the pockets of greedy federales and drug lords. All under the guise of "stopping" the drug wars.
WE will collapse before Mexico does!
I agree...but what about Mexico? lol
She and Bill are probably still making lots of bucks from the drug trade.
O and his cabal ramping up the rhetoric to promote gun control, etc. etc.
When it falls, mexico are belong to USA!
It's never true until it's been officially denied, so now it's just a matter of time.
I do not want Mexico’s northern (and mainly poorest) states to become part of the US...that would be an economic catastrophie bigger than any Obama could create
We would have to give welfare to most of them...because most are uneducated or undereducated....and I definitely do not want a former Mexican taking a job away from a hard-working American...or have hard-working Americans subsidize Third Worlders
Mexico’s economy is weak....its per capita GDP is low, and gets lower every day. Millions have lost their jobs...many shipped off to Communist China (in return, Communist China supplies the pseudophedrine so the Mex’s can cook up crystal meth)
If you really want to fix this Mexico crisis...you must:
1. Abrogate NAFTA, esp all parts pertaining to Mexico (Free Trade has failed in Mexico....millions have lost jobs and/or ability to sustain selves). NAFTA also enables the drug cartels easier access over the border...allowing them to use “trade rules” to compromise the system (esp with Mexican trucking companies)
2. Deport all illegals....and prevent any new illegals from arriving. You do not destroy America while Mexico collapses
3. Execute all violent illegal alien Mexicans confined in US prisons. Most are involved in drugs and gangs...and would put fear into the cartels....note that Mexico has no death penalty...and the cartels have no fear of being executed for violent crimes in Mexico. Start executing the cartels and gangs...and you begin to turn the tide.
4. Strong US military presence on the Mexican border...and armed with nukes. If the Mexican govt and/or drug cartels try to invade the US border (trust meither)...I want to be able to vaporize Mexican cities in response. No more coddling that Third World craphole...whether it is its government or the American hate/racist groups like La Raza (The Race).
Strong measures....I know. Weak measures will not work. The US will be defending itself from not only the drug cartels....but also the Mexican government.
“There are no drug cartels in Mexico, none!” - Bagdad Bob
My thoughts exactly when I read this headline.
I take it this is a rhetorical question. BTW is this thread about Mexico or Northern Mexico (ie America)?
The headline “Mexico Not in Danger of Collapse” sounds A LOT like the headline (also from today) “Utica pollster says Obama’s popularity drop not dramatic”: both mean exactly the opposite of what they say.
That be some mighty nice real estate once we clear out the rabble...
Um. Not under THIS regime. In such an event, anyone with a brain should be aiming in self defense.
Barney Frank said the same thing a couple of years ago about Fannie Mae.
LOL, no, they're not STUPID. The drug cartels are what keep the politicians in jobs. They can't AFFORD to really do anything to stop them. What would they do for money then? (This has been accepted- though unofficially - practice in Mexican politics since before Zepata's time.)
Come on Norm,
you could run a pyramid betting scheme.
Oh never mind.