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Official: Mexico not in danger of collapse ('Make your prediction here! thread)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 3/26/09 | Pam Hess - ap

Posted on 03/26/2009 1:55:02 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON – The Mexican government is not on the verge of collapse, the top U.S. intelligence official said Thursday, seeking to tamp down increasing alarm over the powerful and violent drug cartels operating in the country that is the United States' southern neighbor.

"Mexico is in no danger of becoming a failed state," said National Intelligence Director Dennis Blair at his first news conference Thursday.

Echoing the assessment of Mexico's leaders, Blair said the dramatic increase in killings in Mexico is a result of that government's crackdown on drug cartels.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Mexico; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 200903; aliens; amnesty; bho44; bhomexico; collapse; danger; dennisblair; fastandfurious; fastnfurious; immigration; mexico; narcoterrorism
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Sorry , No prizes if you win but if you live in a border state , you might disagree with 'Nothing to see, just move along.' from Blair. Helluva title huh? National Intelligence Director
1 posted on 03/26/2009 1:55:04 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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depends on what you mean by ‘verge’.


2 posted on 03/26/2009 1:55:28 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: NormsRevenge

With Obama at the helm, it’s possible the U.S. will fall before Mexico does.


3 posted on 03/26/2009 1:57:01 PM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: NormsRevenge

It’s been in danger of collapse or mob rule for years.

Corrupt politicians. Drug/Crime cartels. Bandits rule the country-side. Military rules self.

Nationalization has sapped the resources and squandered them

Collapse is inevitable. Whether this year or next.


4 posted on 03/26/2009 1:57:14 PM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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No mention of how far North the drug cartels tentacles reach.. Try Canada.


5 posted on 03/26/2009 1:57:21 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: NormsRevenge

darn I am from Texas and I think there are several parts of northern Mexico almost controlled by Narcos now


6 posted on 03/26/2009 1:58:19 PM PDT by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: NormsRevenge

The government is corrupt and in bed with the narco traffickers. There is nothing to collapse.


7 posted on 03/26/2009 1:58:21 PM PDT by lormand (California - Finally a State Louisiana can make fun of)
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To: NormsRevenge
"Mexico is in no danger of becoming a failed state...

If you have to deny it, it is probably true.

8 posted on 03/26/2009 1:59:28 PM PDT by Senator_Blutarski (No good deed goes unpunished.)
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To: NormsRevenge

There are no drug cartels in Mexico, none!

9 posted on 03/26/2009 2:00:12 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: NormsRevenge
"Mexico America is in no danger of becoming a failed state," said National Intelligence Director Dennis Blair at his first news conference Thursday, as he accepted "mysterious donations" from Hillary Clinton of the State Department.

Fixed it. ;)

10 posted on 03/26/2009 2:01:15 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Official: Mexico not in danger of collapse

Rule of thumb: if you have to SAY it isn't, then it probably IS. Just sayin'.

11 posted on 03/26/2009 2:01:53 PM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great... ...until it happens to YOU.)
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To: NormsRevenge

“Don’t believe a rumor until it is officially denied.”


12 posted on 03/26/2009 2:02:56 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Senator_Blutarski
If you have to deny it, it is probably true.

I've nothing to say to you except: brilliant minds think alike.

13 posted on 03/26/2009 2:03:13 PM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great... ...until it happens to YOU.)
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To: NormsRevenge

What if a whole country collapsed and nobody could tell the difference?


14 posted on 03/26/2009 2:03:42 PM PDT by San Jacinto (gorebull warming -- the Socialists' Shortcut.)
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To: NormsRevenge

What’s the over/under on this?


15 posted on 03/26/2009 2:04:18 PM PDT by BlueYonder
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To: Tijeras_Slim

That’s exactly what I was thinking...

What will we call him? “Guadalajara Bob”?


16 posted on 03/26/2009 2:06:58 PM PDT by MrB (irreconcilable: One of two or more conflicting ideas or beliefs that cannot be brought into harmony.)
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To: NormsRevenge

“Mexico is in no danger of becoming a failed state”.....

That’s not the point, Bozo!....Mexico could simply back away from the border area and give up leaving all of it to the drug gangs. Then the U.S. would have to deal with it....Are these politicians really this stupid?


17 posted on 03/26/2009 2:08:08 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: NormsRevenge

If the Mexican government said this, I would get out of the country by the next day...


18 posted on 03/26/2009 2:08:23 PM PDT by John123 (The US may be going down the drain, but everyone else will drown first...)
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To: NormsRevenge

Translation: “Mexico is on the verge of collapse.”


19 posted on 03/26/2009 2:08:30 PM PDT by Tenniel2 ("Providence moves slowly, but the devil always hurries" -- John Randolph of Roanoke)
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To: MrB

How about “Juarez Juan”? And maybe someone can Photoshop his insignia and backdrop to Mexican ones.


20 posted on 03/26/2009 2:09:27 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: NormsRevenge

We all like to joke about Mexico, but in reality Mexico is a fairly important country. (It has the 11th largest economy in the world, believe it or not.) The narcotraficanto troubles in the north of Mexico, while serious, are more regional in nature than national, affecting only 7 or 8 of Mexico’s states (it has 31). Corruption is endemic across Mexico, of course, but the local citizens, cops, and gangsters in most places have established a modus vivendi that keeps everyday life more or less normal.

One approach to fixing Mexico’s drug and economic problems (along with our border problem) would be for the Mexican federal government to cede the northernmost seven states to us. Once under US law, these states could be cleaned of large-scale narcoterrorists and corrupt officials and given extensive tax breaks along with infrastructure support. All this done well could see these “top seven” states achieving U.S. style order and prosperity levels within a decade or so, giving Uncle Sam plenty of new taxpayers, a demographic bonanza, and vast new resources, including minerals, agricultural land, and several excellent ports.


21 posted on 03/26/2009 2:13:42 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: NormsRevenge

Bush’s fault?


22 posted on 03/26/2009 2:15:04 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: B-Chan

Yes. And a permanent Democrat majority.


23 posted on 03/26/2009 2:16:42 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: B-Chan

cede the northernmost seven states to us. Once under US law, these states could be cleaned of large-scale narcoterrorists and corrupt officials and given extensive tax breaks along with infrastructure support.

Good idea. I think those states are where a lot of the new industry has been built.

Maybe Hillary would be willing to take it on personally to clean them up. I know she moans over how we to the North provide the demand for all the drugs the cartels delivers.


24 posted on 03/26/2009 2:20:33 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I think by not on verge he means within the next few hours...

Next week? He’s not so sure on


25 posted on 03/26/2009 2:20:59 PM PDT by Domandred (Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Funny (although not in a Ha Ha way) I was just posting a thread about the importance of thinking outside of comforting conventional wisdom.

>>On the other hand, should the Allies abandon such snug security and launch an attack of their own, just as much power and strength and cunning, multiplied many times over, would avail them nothing. The German Siegfried line—not 10 miles away— is just, as redoubtable, just as impossible to penetrate, as the French fortifications.<<

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2215582/posts


26 posted on 03/26/2009 2:21:24 PM PDT by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Michael Hayden, the outgoing head of the CIA stated in January 2009 that the threat of a narco state in Mexico is one of the gravest dangers to American security, on a par with a nuclear-armed Iran. An assessment by the United States’ Joint Forces Command, published in February 2009, concluded that the two countries most at risk of becoming failed states were Pakistan and Mexico.

So what has changed in the past month?

27 posted on 03/26/2009 2:24:20 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Tijeras_Slim

First person I thought of was Baghdad Bob when I read the headline. Figured he got hired by the Mexican government for PR. Musta got parole.


28 posted on 03/26/2009 2:24:55 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Welcome to the Obama-Democrat Depression.)
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To: GeronL

And several parts of South Texas, too.


29 posted on 03/26/2009 2:26:17 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: B-Chan

I’ve always thought we should just annex 10 miles a year. In a decade we’d have a port on the Sea of Cortze and all of the lawless border regions would be tamed. To the liberals that are unable to judge one nation/culture/political/econimic system better than another just take a quick comparison of Arizona and Sonora or San Diego and Tijuana. 170 Years ago they were all Mexican.


30 posted on 03/26/2009 2:29:19 PM PDT by azcap
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To: NormsRevenge

half of mexico is here now


31 posted on 03/26/2009 2:29:37 PM PDT by angelcindy ("If you follow the crowd,you get no further than the crowd")
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To: NormsRevenge
The Mexican government is not...
That depends on your definition of is is Pedro...
32 posted on 03/26/2009 2:30:59 PM PDT by ▀udda▀udd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
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Secy of HHS Janet Napolitano was duped -----falling for the Mehican con game...... she stupidly claimed "America is supplying guns to Mexican drug gangs." How stupid can she get?..........stay tuned.

The agit-prop coming out of Mehico has ONE purpose only. Mexico's drug war is produced and directed by drugged-up federale war profiteers----with a cast of thousands. The drugged-up profiteers are salivating to get their hands on US tax dollars.

ITEM The connivers are creating a new class of "latino refugee" seeking "political asylum" in the US----once reserved for those claiming religious or political persecution.

ITEM Espanola con artists have been planning this for a long time. The sob stories are so bogus.....they whine as they sneak over our borders, acting like "god's children looking for a better life." Doing menial jobs cheap is part of the con game.

ITEM Now they are in high gear-----using scare tactics to alarm the US into getting involved in Third World problems---problems that are of their own making.

WHO'S KIDDING WHO? The Third World deliberately foments social unrest---manipulating drug activities and gang warfare on US soil for a targeted goal.

Echos of conniving Mideast greed resound south of the border.....wadda ya wanna bet the pukeneos are part of this scam? These jerks never saw an immigrant they didn't like---whether from eastern Europe, the Soviet bloc, or the Third World south of the border.

The espanolas are using the same playbook as Mideast connivers----the well-worn chapter entititled "How To Dupe the US Into Pouring Trillions Into Your Country." The con job entails faking that they "can't govern"....that they are "helpless victims."

This con sure works good in the Mideast---some of those lowlifes have been operating for years and are STILL too stupid to govern themselves.....UNLESS US tax dollars are pouring in.

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CON ALERT Now watch the espanolas use tried and true Mideast cons to get US tax dollars flowing:

1. Victimization----never fails.

2. Baiting "enemies" of the US to attack their Third World hellholes (or, more precisely, people THEY claim are US enemies) in order to dupe the US to step in, and step up the dollar flow.

3. Sending espanola government agents masquerading as drug lords into the countryside to foment unrest.

4. Populating the US with espanola government agents to agitate for US govt involvement to trigger the flow of US tax dollars.

The federale warmongers are salivating to get their hands on trillions of US tax dollars. The highest levels of conniving Third World governments are pepetrating a con to get US dollars flowing into the pockets of greedy federales and drug lords. All under the guise of "stopping" the drug wars.

33 posted on 03/26/2009 2:32:10 PM PDT by Liz (I was like Snow White, then I drifted. Mae West (on liberalism.)
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To: NormsRevenge

WE will collapse before Mexico does!


34 posted on 03/26/2009 2:33:55 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: K-oneTexas

I agree...but what about Mexico? lol


35 posted on 03/26/2009 2:34:36 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Welcome to the USA: United Socialist of America. Bow to The Obama!)
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To: NormsRevenge

She and Bill are probably still making lots of bucks from the drug trade.


36 posted on 03/26/2009 2:39:40 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: NormsRevenge

O and his cabal ramping up the rhetoric to promote gun control, etc. etc.


37 posted on 03/26/2009 2:41:02 PM PDT by Carley (President Obama Dropped a MOAB on America)
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To: NormsRevenge

When it falls, mexico are belong to USA!


38 posted on 03/26/2009 2:41:43 PM PDT by devistate one four (Cw II on the way! Stand by. TET68)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
Are these politicians really this stupid?

Yes.
39 posted on 03/26/2009 2:43:39 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (FOBO)
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To: NormsRevenge
"Mexico is in no danger of becoming a failed state," said National Intelligence Director Dennis Blair

It's never true until it's been officially denied, so now it's just a matter of time.

40 posted on 03/26/2009 2:44:26 PM PDT by RJL
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To: B-Chan

No way...Jose!

I do not want Mexico’s northern (and mainly poorest) states to become part of the US...that would be an economic catastrophie bigger than any Obama could create

We would have to give welfare to most of them...because most are uneducated or undereducated....and I definitely do not want a former Mexican taking a job away from a hard-working American...or have hard-working Americans subsidize Third Worlders

Mexico’s economy is weak....its per capita GDP is low, and gets lower every day. Millions have lost their jobs...many shipped off to Communist China (in return, Communist China supplies the pseudophedrine so the Mex’s can cook up crystal meth)

If you really want to fix this Mexico crisis...you must:

1. Abrogate NAFTA, esp all parts pertaining to Mexico (Free Trade has failed in Mexico....millions have lost jobs and/or ability to sustain selves). NAFTA also enables the drug cartels easier access over the border...allowing them to use “trade rules” to compromise the system (esp with Mexican trucking companies)

2. Deport all illegals....and prevent any new illegals from arriving. You do not destroy America while Mexico collapses

3. Execute all violent illegal alien Mexicans confined in US prisons. Most are involved in drugs and gangs...and would put fear into the cartels....note that Mexico has no death penalty...and the cartels have no fear of being executed for violent crimes in Mexico. Start executing the cartels and gangs...and you begin to turn the tide.

4. Strong US military presence on the Mexican border...and armed with nukes. If the Mexican govt and/or drug cartels try to invade the US border (trust meither)...I want to be able to vaporize Mexican cities in response. No more coddling that Third World craphole...whether it is its government or the American hate/racist groups like La Raza (The Race).

Strong measures....I know. Weak measures will not work. The US will be defending itself from not only the drug cartels....but also the Mexican government.


41 posted on 03/26/2009 3:00:48 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (The Biggest Threat To American Soverignty Is Rampant Economic Anti-Americanism)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

“There are no drug cartels in Mexico, none!” - Bagdad Bob

My thoughts exactly when I read this headline.


42 posted on 03/26/2009 3:01:35 PM PDT by villagerjoel ("Gun control is a prerequisite for genocide." - Unknown)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
Are these politicians really this stupid?

I take it this is a rhetorical question. BTW is this thread about Mexico or Northern Mexico (ie America)?

43 posted on 03/26/2009 3:07:20 PM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it.)
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To: NormsRevenge

The headline “Mexico Not in Danger of Collapse” sounds A LOT like the headline (also from today) “Utica pollster says Obama’s popularity drop not dramatic”: both mean exactly the opposite of what they say.


45 posted on 03/26/2009 3:27:07 PM PDT by cake_crumb (Obama is so far out of his depth that he's in unstable orbit.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
That’s not the point, Bozo!....Mexico could simply back away from the border area and give up leaving all of it to the drug gangs. Then the U.S. would have to deal with it....Are these politicians really this stupid?

That be some mighty nice real estate once we clear out the rabble...

46 posted on 03/26/2009 3:29:25 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

Um. Not under THIS regime. In such an event, anyone with a brain should be aiming in self defense.


47 posted on 03/26/2009 3:29:32 PM PDT by cake_crumb (Obama is so far out of his depth that he's in unstable orbit.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Barney Frank said the same thing a couple of years ago about Fannie Mae.


48 posted on 03/26/2009 3:30:54 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
"Mexico could simply back away from the border area and give up leaving all of it to the drug gangs. Then the U.S. would have to deal with it....Are these politicians really this stupid?"

LOL, no, they're not STUPID. The drug cartels are what keep the politicians in jobs. They can't AFFORD to really do anything to stop them. What would they do for money then? (This has been accepted- though unofficially - practice in Mexican politics since before Zepata's time.)

49 posted on 03/26/2009 3:33:16 PM PDT by cake_crumb (Obama is so far out of his depth that he's in unstable orbit.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Come on Norm,
you could run a pyramid betting scheme.
Oh never mind.


50 posted on 03/26/2009 3:37:39 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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