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Obama pledges $7.5 billion "down payment" to Pakistan for US security
The Times of India ^ | 27 March, 2009 | The Times of India

Posted on 03/27/2009 9:41:18 AM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins

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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

0bama is such a fool


21 posted on 03/27/2009 12:13:48 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (I'm learning Arabic, Farsi, Urdu, Pashtu, and Russian so someday you won't have to)
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To: 31R1O; PapaBear3625; publana; RadioCirca1970; TheBlueMax; WLR; iThinkBig; bayouranger; ...

Pakistan ۋﮧ۱م

FReepmail if you want on or off

22 posted on 03/27/2009 12:14:26 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (I'm learning Arabic, Farsi, Urdu, Pashtu, and Russian so someday you won't have to)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins
Most will probably be siphoned off and end up helping the taliban.

The Pakistanian government continues to protect the terrorists.

It's their job to rout them out of the border areas.

We would be glad to help.

23 posted on 03/27/2009 12:14:51 PM PDT by Syncro (If you do not understand, be silent, or learn.)
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To: Syncro

Maybe they are going to give/sell Osama to Obama so he (Obama)can get all of the glory...maybe he is buying Osama....????


24 posted on 03/27/2009 12:30:08 PM PDT by wndycndy (WE ALL MUST FIGHT TO RETAIN OUR RIGHTS AGAINST LIBERAL IDEOLOGY)
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

>>I’d put MY money on being able to keep them open in Pakistan.

I think you’d lose, there have been numerous attacks on staging areas for the convoys, destroying numerous trucks, causing much loss of materiel, remember the jihadis manage to hijack a truck with a helicopter last year.....

Peashwar, the logistical hub, is virtually a jihadi run city.

The move to Russian supply routes was undertaken by Bush because of the deteriorating situation in Peshawar.


25 posted on 03/27/2009 12:37:09 PM PDT by swarthyguy ("We may be crazy in Pakistan, but not completely out of our minds," ISI Gen. Ahmed Shujaa Pasha)
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To: wndycndy
Harumph, more like funding Osama

Idjets

If anyone can by the other, it'd be Osama buying Obama.

Or maybe he already did.

There are no more terrorists, just “man made disasters.”

There is no more war on terror, just Overseas Contingency Operations.

Which of course leaves out fighting terrorists in their numerous cells in this country.

Good job with semantics there, Obumbler.

26 posted on 03/27/2009 12:38:39 PM PDT by Syncro (If you do not understand, be silent, or learn.)
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To: swarthyguy

Yeah, BUT the supply routes in Russia are drying up as well. All I’m saying is, we’d stand a better chance if we went up against Pakistan (God forbid the need arises), than if we took on Russia (and China) again. That was really a nasty mess the last time around.

Neither is a good situation, but how many in the Western World or the Asian world would RUSH to help out Pakistan — China has their own problems with an irate Muslim population, just as Russia has.


27 posted on 03/27/2009 2:42:55 PM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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[snip] US President Barack Obama on Friday affirmed a tripling of US economic aid to Pakistan to $ 1.5 billion annually over the next five years, calling it a “down payment” for America’s future security even though he unambiguously accused the country of being a safe haven for al-Qaida and its leadership. [end]

US May Expand Anti-Militant Efforts To Baluchistan
NPR | March 27, 2009 | Jackie Northam
Posted on 03/26/2009 9:38:01 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2215892/posts


28 posted on 03/27/2009 2:52:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Constitutions Grandchild
We're about to send another 21,000 American troops into Afghansitan to supplement the troops already there. We have no means to supply our troops other than by air which is unfeasible.

Absolute insanity. At a point in history when South America is being lost to Socialist Tyrants, Central America is about to Erupt with a Civil War on and across our Southern Border, Eastern Europe is under threat from Russia Invasion (Georgia) and Civil War (Ukraine), the Middle East is about to erupt with an Iran/Israel War, the United States leadership is sending more troops to Afghanistan to protect the Poppy and Goat trade. The reality is that this is all about the loose nukes in Pakistan that are in the hands of terrorist sympathizers.

29 posted on 03/27/2009 5:15:44 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape
he United States leadership is sending more troops to Afghanistan to protect the Poppy and Goat trade.

Your drug warrior mentality betrays logic ...

AQ, and the Taliban are growing stronger, Pakistan has nukes, and you accuse the US military of protecting poppy traders ...

30 posted on 03/28/2009 6:09:48 PM PDT by 08bil98z24 (War on Drug supporters are enemies of the Constitution.)
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To: 08bil98z24
Next time read the whole post before commenting. You apparently missed the punchline.

The reality is that this is all about the loose nukes in Pakistan that are in the hands of terrorist sympathizers.

31 posted on 03/28/2009 9:21:33 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

>>The reality is that this is all about the loose nukes in Pakistan that are in the hands of terrorist sympathizers.

Well, wait til they fall into the hands of the jihadis themselves. As it is, that’s barely a generation away as the majors and colonels, indoctrinated in an Islamist Jihadi mindset begin replacing the current crop of secular, albeit India hating generals like Musharraf and Kiyani, the former for all his faults, is a pragmatist like Kiyani, and hence did begin a detente rapprochement with India over the past few years.


32 posted on 03/30/2009 10:53:39 AM PDT by swarthyguy ("We may be crazy in Pakistan, but not completely out of our minds," ISI Gen. Ahmed Shujaa Pasha)
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

It is part contingency planning and forward thinking in case Pakistan (God Willing or shall I say Inshallah) has a major meltdown - anarchy, chaos, a state close to civil war!


33 posted on 03/30/2009 10:55:26 AM PDT by swarthyguy ("We may be crazy in Pakistan, but not completely out of our minds," ISI Gen. Ahmed Shujaa Pasha)
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

Voila! The US seems to have completely given up on the Khyber route....

New NATO supply route through Dushanbe in Tajikistan Non-lethal supplies for NATO have begun arriving in Kunduz, Afghanistan from Dushanbe, Tajikistan. The US built a bridge across the Panj River to create this new route. The Tajiks have agreed to permit 250 trucks a day - 5000-tons of supplies - via this route. That’s just a bit less than cross the Khyber every day.

From - orbat.com


34 posted on 03/30/2009 10:57:18 AM PDT by swarthyguy ("We may be crazy in Pakistan, but not completely out of our minds," ISI Gen. Ahmed Shujaa Pasha)
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Really! This appears to be great news. Thank you. You have no idea how relieved and happy I am to hear about this.

People tell me I shouldn’t worry. I tell people it’s my hobby.


35 posted on 03/30/2009 11:45:52 AM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

>.I tell people it’s my hobby

Hobby is good, because sometimes it seems worrying is the main activity of America today.

Somewhere along the line we seemed to have turned into a nation of worrywarts and chicken littles.


36 posted on 03/30/2009 11:49:00 AM PDT by swarthyguy ("We may be crazy in Pakistan, but not completely out of our minds," ISI Gen. Ahmed Shujaa Pasha)
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To: swarthyguy

I know. I try not to, but every now and then when I think of my son deploying to Afghanistan, I get the heebie-jeebies. I try to never let him know. I keep my game face on, but I haven’t like the smell of this new front for whatever reason. It’s just a down day, I guess.


37 posted on 03/30/2009 11:58:11 AM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

Well, this MAY improve your day.....


Just another day in Afghanistan The article below is useful because it describes a typical day in Afghanistan, this time for a platoon of the 10th Mountain Division new to the area and setting up to assert itself.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/KC27Df01.htm

The article has a minor patronizing tone which is programmed into the typical Brit before s/he is born. We are unsure, for example, why the Brit mediaperson chooses to call the platoon “motley”. Is he referring to the soldiers not presenting a uniform racial face as is the case with the British Army? If so, he has to understand America is not Britain. Is he calling the platoon motley because its men are from different backgrounds? Well, isn’t the same true of the British Army. Is he referring to the less than stellar personal histories of some of the troops? Well, isn’t the same thing true of the Brits? More to the point, perhaps he needs to appreciate that men with less than the best backgrounds make very good soldiers if they are properly trained and controlled, for the simple reason they know their violence and they know how to survive.

The Editor’s father, who was no fan of the US Army for many reasons, in the 1960s would caution other foreigners who thought Americans were too soft to make good soldiers. He’d say the bulk of the American infantry was drafted from the urban ghettos or from rural areas where most males learned to hunt and kill before they reached puberty. Such men, he would say, were very tough and shouldn’t be underestimated.

But that said, the article is a fair and informative account of life on the ground.


Again, from ORBAT.com


38 posted on 03/30/2009 12:01:33 PM PDT by swarthyguy ("We may be crazy in Pakistan, but not completely out of our minds," ISI Gen. Ahmed Shujaa Pasha)
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To: justa-hairyape
Next time read the whole post before commenting. You apparently missed the punchline.

I did read the whole post. I do believe NO one is GONNA let the Pakistani nukes go anywhere. We all know this. Everyone who has been reading FR since 2001 knows this.

And I still dislike the remark about US soldiers protecting poppies. It is not our job to destroy poppies or protect them. Most Taliban money does not come from the p plant trade/opium harvest like some drug warriors try to pretend ... the Taliban's money comes through robbery, ransom, most importantly wealthy Arab donors and the Pakistani ISI. I'm not saying they don't get any money from it, but the majority is not.

People with drug warrior mentalities are often blinded by hate.

39 posted on 03/30/2009 3:23:01 PM PDT by 08bil98z24 (War on Drug supporters are enemies of the Constitution.)
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To: swarthyguy
Well, wait til they fall into the hands of the jihadis themselves.

If they are in the hands of Jihadists sympathizers, then they should be considered to be in the hands of the Jihadists. This, prop the democratic Pakistani government up at all costs, approach is gonna get some cities nuked, is gonna drag the US military into Pakistan and could provoke an Invasion from India. Don't know how the slickmeisters in DC possibly see any other outcome. Their original plan for democracy in Iraq had similar problems. Note the talk now of a 'surge' into Afghanistan.

40 posted on 03/30/2009 6:02:40 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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