Tell me RFE, is your brain in that pile, or was it cleaned out with the last batch of sacrifices?
Posted on 03/27/2009 3:36:14 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
Neo-Darwinian Theory Fails the Mutation Test
by Brian Thomas, M.S.*
Darwin’s original conception of simple-to-complex evolution maintained that nature selected certain individuals with superior features, and in this way gradually, one tiny feature at a time, an entirely different creature could eventually form.
The source of new features or feature fragments for nature to select, however, eluded evolutionists for decades. To answer this, the Geological Society of America in 1941 formulated a new version of Darwinian evolution. They decided that genetic mutations should be considered the source of new information for nature to select, and thus the Neo-Darwinian Theory was born.
Since that time, however, science has revealed that mutations have fallen far short of the lofty accomplishments ascribed to them...
(Excerpt) Read more at icr.org ...
Dont have any dog with this hunt. Try somewhere else, slick.
2008? You ought to count your change indeed
“You Creatards …” [excerpt]Tip: That is really not smart. (ie, dumb)
“I suggest you not make a habit of calling Creationists that.”
Let me guess - you don’t mind name calling of folks of faith who also believe in evolution.
“Perhaps you are right about him having this fault, I’m not sure. I have my own faults, and perhaps even you have some. “
This is why scientific method was developed. To consider new information for incorporation into the body of knowledge that is science.
The point is that ANY point of view creationist or evolutionist can be incorporated into scientific knowledge.
However, using the Bible and saying “God said so” does not rise to the level of science - it is not disrespectful to God to say this, which is really the crux of the argument.
To be faced with pseudo science written by people with no obvious qualifications and have it posted to be take seriously is my objection. And the poster thinks he can make up for being wrong through volume of postings. It’s amusing.
“Perhaps you would find it ironic that I am an engineer myself (software in my case). Not that this makes me any kind of authority on the issues at hand.”
No, not at all - the irony comes from militant fundamentalism which equates belief in science to atheism. I personally know many scientists and engineers of faith - some of them fundamentalist in their views.
I can tell you’re going to provide some sport, oh yes!
Tell me RFE, is your brain in that pile, or was it cleaned out with the last batch of sacrifices?
“You’re just upset because a growing chorus of scientific voices”
How come you haven’t posted any voices in this “chorus” of yours? I hope you don’t count Mr. Brian Thomas M.S. singing soprano as a “chorus”.
Indeed, I’m not upset in the least by your insults to Darwin. We folks that understand and actually contribute to science study find your attacks on dead scientists amusing. The only way to insult a dead scientist is to attack his science, not through name-calling. So far you’ve been pwned by Darwin. He’s bested you and your fawning gaggle of Creatards on this board - and he’s been dead for more than a century.
Keep trying - many scientific discoveries have been made as the result of “stick-to-itivness”. Granted, you’ve got basic science and scientific method to learn first, but it’s still possible.
Signed, RFEngineer, M.S.
“By putting his “M.S.” in his title (a lame practice) he’s acknowledging that he is a lightweight.”
Bingo! I would add that his choice of website to publish his weighty, thoughtful discourse speaks equally about his talent and abilities.
For someone who claims to be contributing to science, you sure are WAAAYYYY behind the times. Even the evos realize the HMS Beagle is sinking, and increasing numbers of them are abandoning ship in search of a new God-denying evolutionary vessel to hide behind. I imagine you will be joining them soon, that is once you finally catch-up with the new biology.
“God-denying evolutionary vessel”
You are one stubborn creatard. Belief in evolution is not denial of God. You are no more enlightened than the staunchest of Darwinists. I know that really freaks out the dyed-in-the wool one-true-path fundamentalists.
But if you believed that, you’d have to find another subject to turbo-post on, and that would be hard. You could always buy a dog, at least they’ll pretend you know what you are talking about, as long as you feed them (an evolutionary trait, by the way!)
“You are one stubborn creatard.” [excerpt]Ah yes, a fine example of the only way Evolutionists can make a point: repeatedly call their opponents foul names.
Apparently, that’s the best RFE has to put forward in his laughable campaign to expand the cult of Darwinistic Materialism. RFE is not content to go down with the HMS Beagle surrounded by all the usual faces of the die-hard Darwinian faithful. If he and his fellow Darwiniac devotees are to go down, they want to take as many new converts down with them as possible. Darwinian misery just love, love, luuuuvvvvsss company.
They only have a few tools at their disposal. That’s one of them.
“Real classy”
You mean classic, right! I think it’s funny.
What really IS classic is how you ignore creationist name-calling and then scream like a stuck pig (you know they are related to horses?) when someone comes up with a moniker for you.
“Ah yes, a fine example of the only way Evolutionists can make a point:”
lol...well THAT and also several hundred years of scientific study and peer review.
“laughable campaign to expand the cult of Darwinistic Materialism”
I’m not interested in “Darwinistic Materialism” I’m interested in science and the body of scientific knowledge. You may be able to prove, scientifically, that Darwin is wrong - and I’d be happy to accept that. Instead, you incessantly post unscientific, non-peer reviewed Bible Study papers and call it science.
“Darwiniac” That’s actually a good one.
“Darwinian misery just love, love, luuuuvvvvsss company.”
You don’t get it....Just prove scientific fact wrong with study, research, and hard work - and then we’ll have new scientific facts. There are probably very few actual “Darwiniacs” out there - they are a boogeyman that you have created because you think that science threatens faith.
If you truly had faith in God, you would know that there is a difference between science and faith - and they are not in opposition.
I’m Christian, and I believe in science, which supports evolution as fact - as best as we can understand it at this time. If you’ve got something else to add to scientific knowledge, then add it. Publish something. Get it out there.
So keep fighting that Darwiniac boogeyman - but know that it’s just a figment of your Creatard imaginiation.
No sale.
If the Bible is really the word of God, than I one ought to say that science doesn't rise to the level of that word.
I trust science not because it is above all things, but because the scientific method makes sense to my reason as a good way to determine the facts about nature in a wide range of incidences.
Science of coarse, like all other mortal endevours is always wrong. I mean no disrespect, but lets face it, it is a system of trying to be less wrong as we go along. If any theory was totally correct, then study in that area would be over, and science could not proceed. Moreover, all the systems the theories describe are interconnected, so this applies to all of them.
No undue disrepect for science. But I must take issue with a prevelant yet irrational notion that many have that science will eventually allow mortals to figure it all out. Reason tells us there must be diminishing returns at some point. I guess people are extrapolating from the recent explosion in knolledge for the past couple centuries. How long will it go on? I can't tell...but I am to skeptical in general to simply extrapolate and wish it somehow will find all answers--and yet I see all to many seeming to do so.
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