Skip to comments.Rules for conservative radicals
Posted on 03/29/2009 6:14:34 PM PDT by surfer
A digital war has broken out, and the conservative movement is losing. Read the comment sections of right-leaning blogs, news sites and social forums, and the evidence is there in ugly abundance. Internet hooligans are spewing their talking points to thwart the dissent of the newly-out-of-power.
We must not let that go unanswered.
Uninvited Democratic activists are on a mission to demoralize the enemy - us. They want to ensure that President Obama is not subject to the same coordinated, facts-be-damned, multimedia takedown they employed over eight long years to destroy the presidency - and the humanity - of George W. Bush.
Political leftists play for keeps. They are willing to lie, perform deceptive acts in a coordinated fashion and do so in a wicked way - all in the pursuit of victory. Moral relativism is alive and well in the land of Hope and Change and its Web-savvy youth brigade expresses its "idealism" in a most cynical fashion.
The ends justify the means for them - now more than ever.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...
Our great country and constitution is under the largest assault ever attempted. We must put this assault down. We must preserve our Republic.
We need to get organized! We need to be heard! We need to fight back! Let's ROLL!
“FR should be at the center of the conservative movement.”
AMEN!!!!! Isn’t FR the largest conservative forum on the Web?
Come on, people!!!!!! Let’s unite and take back OUR country!!!!!!!
The author spews this, and wants to be taken seriously??? I've yet to see any facts about Obambi's past. Heck, we don't even know where he was born!
This is the history of every despotic rise to power in history, most particularly communists. No surprise. We are seeing a 35 year plan unfolding in 10 weeks.
Great editorial. It’s what we need - a cold hard look at the fact that there is basically a propaganda war going on and being the “nice guy” won’t cut it.
That is exactly his point. They are engineering a complete circus and media black out of the facts. Why should this be a surprise...that is exactly what they have been doing for 8 years.
You will never see the truth again unless we dismantle this cancer that is attacking our great country!
We need a FREEPER call sign that can be added to the bottom of every email, post so we can keep up the rally cry!
Instead of freeping polls we should be freeping blogs....
Your are absolutely correct. I do it every single day.
It is a lonely quest and most of the time I am alone is my massive posts on other blogs...but I keep up the good fight and take these liberals to task at every opportunity!
He’s right, but he didn’t deliver on the title of his article. Blunting attacks from the left is fighting the last war. We need a playbook for guerilla warfare against the left wing groups in this country and theirs allies and masters in the White House and Capitol.
I agree. The only thing that I won't do that they do all the time is lie. But we don't have to. They are that bad and just need to be exposed over and over again.
No more Mister Nice Guy stuff.
They are no better than the darleks!!!
What do you suggest for a playbook? We need to start outline our responses and how we are going to do this.
The fact is they lied about everything. And continue to do so without being called on it.
We need more Hannons
THIS is where it's difficult.....because of most people on the "right" sides MORAL proclivities.....we have a hard time lying, cheating, demoralizing, etc....so, the question becomes....how do we get around that so called "flaw?"
Anyone who disagrees with me, is a troll : )
Anyone who agrees with me, is a well disciplined troll : (
We don’t have to lie but we need to establish a response for the lies.
We need a set of talking points that CANNOT be refuted through any logical argument.
We need to force them into their world of lies and irrational behavior. It takes a lot more horsepower to perpetuate a lie then it does the truth.
Eventually as their plans begin to collapse the MSM will have no choice but to report the truth or people will just change the channel. The momentum is starting. We need to supercharge it now!
I agree with all of that, surfer.
That’s why I was disappointed in this article and why I bothered to read it in the first place. I don’t have one. At best, I react to headlines and think of things that I wish the people “in the game” would do, unfortunately.
The response the first time around 100 years ago, against the emergence of national socialism and collectivism, was anarchism, because totalitarianists do not respond to anything but violence.
In 1944, F. A. Hayek wrote:
“It is one of the saddest spectacles of our time to see a great democratic movement support a policy which must lead to the destruction of democracy and which meanwhile can benefit only a minority of the masses who support it.”. From- The Road to Serfdom
None of these stunts are new. What Zero is doing has bee done before and the result has always been insurrection.
We need ELECTED people who get MEDIA ATTENTION who RESPOND to the lies.....there seem to be a few, but they get drowned out by the catcalls of the Left....BUT....I agree that there seems to be MORE of a VOICE being heard now....and we NEED TO GIVE THEM SUPPORT. WHO are the “Hannons” of our Congress? Of our Governorships?
I think the first thing to realize is it takes a lot more resource and horsepower to keep a lie alive and well.
We need to put their lies on life support. Eventually we will be in the position to pull the plug.
We cannot let up. We cannot cave in. As Obama stated during his campaign - “WE HAVE A RIGHTEOUS WIND AT OUR BACKS”.
We need to take everything they have said and done and turn it around with the truth and keep the message on point and to the point. It has to be repeated and repeated.
We cannot waiver in our response and message. Look at how Obama has waffled on everything he has ever said. We use that to our advantage.
This isn’t going to turn around overnight it is going to take years to solve this problem and we have to think that way.
Once we turn it around then we need to apply the same pressure on the new people in office to make sure they finish the job and this is never allowed to happen again!
First job is establishing our message and then setting the operational tempo. We cannot move forward without control of the tempo of the battlefield.
Channel that frustration into anger. Take the time to rewrite his article on what you think should have been said. Let it sit on your computer for 24 hours and then go back to it and rework it if you think necessary and then post it as a vanity piece and get people talking about it!
Do you remember Larry Klayman? He did it. We have people right here at FR than can get our voices heard but we need to consistent and truthful response - one that cannot be disputed through rational argument.
Eventually it will make it to Glenn Beck and others...just like FR has done in the past.
The key to successful organization is the identification of a key value and proposition that the people can be passionate about.
Once you have established that you will get people to participate and then it gets hard. You need to show consistent movement and achievement of a carefully orchestrated set of goals. That perception builds momentum which in turns inspires more passion and ownership of the people involved.
Glenn Beck’s 912project is a great rallying point but unfortunately they are missing the next step.
We need an inspiration to rally around and then we need specific goals and marching orders to make it happen!
“Let’s unite and take back OUR country!!!”
I thought that’s what we ARE doing. Look at your state membership and check on meet-ups. Grass roots movements being formed all the time now and being combined with like minded consevative groups. It does require a little action though==not just talk.
My two Pennies..
I agree, we conservatives “play by the rules” and have to some degree painted ourselves into a “principled” corner..
I think the Achilles heal of the silent majority is being exploited.
We need to band with the Paulistinians & libertarians more than we currently do. I don’t mean to put libertarians or Ron Paul supporters on the same plane as communists/fascists/ingsoc statists at all. what I’m getting at is that they are extremely effective and are friends of liberty. We could learn a lot from them from a “go on the offensive for the republic” perspective”.
I guess what I’m getting at is that we have much more in common than we sometimes realize.
I’m a hardcore conservative with a huge amount of (recent) respect for our friends in the Ron Paul / Libertarian / constitution movement.
To be honest they are the only folks I see making waves vocally and otherwise in the face of the current massive threat to our Republic.
Hope this doesn’t create a big flame.. Just been thinking about it lately.
I nominate the following: "I'll get the popcorn!" "Set beebers to stune." "This is hugh. I'm series." "A moose bit my sister's cheese once..."
I agree. Where are the "Rules For Conservative Radicals?"
We need to find the rally point that brings us all together.
Some examples might be:
Corruption, earmarks, campaign finance, etc.
Corruption seems to be the easiest to convince people we can do without. We have tomes of history of past civilizations that all collapsed because of corruption.
So we need to bring everyone together and then go for the jugular of the raging left loons and put them out of business.
This must not stand...no quarter!!!
He’s setting himself up for a sequel... :)
Isn’t that the truth? “You have run out of our money” just about says it all!!
U have run out of R $$
Might as well make it look like we're younger folks while we're at it....
Alot of our side just wont see the truth.Never let up on the leftist bastards.
We need to invade all the websites they frequent. Like Twitter, youtube etc... and start posting our own stuff.
Well said. You have struck on a very good point.
We need an inspiration to rally around and then we need specific goals and marching orders to make it happen!”
I agree that Glenn Beck did get people to think about getting active and paying attention to what is going on. But my problem with Beck is he keeps talking about how we should make it about our Constitutional freedoms and the spending of Congress and not about “individuals” in the Government or “political parties”. So according to Beck we are not supposed to name names or point fingers at the Socialists/Communists in our Congress or the White House!
Remember how Beck started out putting down the Orlando Tea Party because he happened to see a couple signs about Barack Hussien Obama aka Barry Soetoro? Beck said it was wrong for the Tea Parties to be about Obama. And who is it that will sign into law every piece of legislation that trashes our Constitution??? Obama!
That and articulate and well thought out posts just will sail over heads all day long.
That and we need some sort of FReeper “boarding party” announcement when this happens so we have some targets to consistently hit instead of the shoutgun non disciplined manner that happens now.
Yeah but I think his point is more about making an argument that cannot be argued away with rationale discussion.
As soon as you start naming names...for every 10 things you can come up with about someone there are 20 responses and primarily because we don’t have access to 100% of the facts surrounding the issue.
So I think we need to find the hot button that brings everyone together for change.
Obama did it with hope...hard to vote against hope if you believe him.
But that is the point...he is a liar and manipulator and has no interest in seeing this great country remain a Republic. We need to use that against them. They are all cut from the same cloth. People used to ask me about Obama during the campaign and my favorite response was:
20 years from now if someone were running for office of the President and you knew they were friends with Bin Laden would you vote for them?
That is exactly what people did with Obama, Ayers is no different than Bin Laden and people have short memories and the MSM spun the whole Ayers situation into oblivion all because we were targeting people and not the ideas.
So we need to find the idea that we can clearly defend that is truthful and take it to them...over and over again.
That’s why I’m not missing a tea party. It’s a start & they can’t stop it. Libertarian for long time, but mad at them for global warming, military & illegals. I’m helping with a 4/15 TeaP with some constitution party — because they’re out here on the street. Worked several years with LibP in SF. We were at everything (Radical Caucus was 10% of membership but we got 90% our way at conventions) our political action “mentor” was brought up in Commie Party. Knew everything about how to do it.
This site is lot of fun, but it’s time now. BOOTS ON THE GROUND PEOPLE — PUT UP OR SHUT UP.
“Obama did it with hope...hard to vote against hope if you believe him.”
If we replace the word “hope” with words like promise, concern, faith, reward, respect, truth, etc., it would be hard to vote against these type of words, as well.
“This site is lot of fun, but its time now. BOOTS ON THE GROUND PEOPLE PUT UP OR SHUT UP.”
Please forgive, did not mean to be rude, but have seen several posts saying tea parties were waste of time, etc. and I’m trying to make the point that you’ve got to start from where you are. It was a spontaneous moment & that’ the kind of thing to pay attention to. Take part. Get moving. Make a show. I know that’s not what a lot of people here feel comfortable with, but that’s the way it’s done in today’s world.
A lot of people go to a lot of time, trouble to get these permits. Put up their own money to make handouts, arrange for whatever the locals demand. Get out there, it’s a beginning.
still haven’t gotten the hang of that stuff!!
Bogus, hyperbole, just another shut up, we are in charge of thought here. Show me the proof.