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Newt Gingrich: A Single Nuke Could Destroy America
News Max ^ | March 30, 2009 | Newt Gingrich

Posted on 03/30/2009 10:21:04 AM PDT by Pellegrino

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To: TruthFactor

Thank you for your post.

I had not thought of the site being infiltrated by Obamalites. I saw red when I saw the complete trashing of any one on our side and the do nothing smart mouth attitude presented.

But, I agree - think they are mere liberal leftists trying to ruin a conservative site. We need a term for them.


101 posted on 03/30/2009 1:03:21 PM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

>>This sounds a bit hyperbolic.
>>Two nukes didn’t “destroy’ Japan.

Those weren’t detonated at high altitude.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_pulse#Weapon_altitude


102 posted on 03/30/2009 1:05:26 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Vaquero
I have no respect for “men” who support the global warming scam.. They are either doing it to appease the women in their lives (fearful they won't 'get any') or they are Pansies ..
103 posted on 03/30/2009 1:05:43 PM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts ("Hey Liberals.. We don't lower our standards, so up yours!" - Andrew Wilkow show)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

1- Japan wasn’t as dependent on electronics as we are now
2- the bomb wasn’t detonated at a high enough level to cause emp


104 posted on 03/30/2009 1:05:49 PM PDT by ari-freedom ( Hail to the Dork!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Well, you come across as an Obama supporter.

I am not going to waste my time defending those daring to speak out against Obama to you. If you don’t like Newt - so what. I don’t care who you like.


105 posted on 03/30/2009 1:06:28 PM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: divine_moment_of_facts

the only candidate who came out against global warming this year was Tancredo. :/


106 posted on 03/30/2009 1:07:27 PM PDT by ari-freedom ( Hail to the Dork!)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

We are not willing to have Americans killed to remove all doubt.

Only Obama is willing to have Americans killed, Americans attacked because he is not defending America, he is destroying America.


107 posted on 03/30/2009 1:08:00 PM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: Pellegrino

A nuclear devastated America that Obama could freely revise in his own image is Obama’s dream.


108 posted on 03/30/2009 1:09:03 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag Fire.)
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To: ClancyJ

“we face a serious nuclear threat from North korea. Obama is fundamentally wrong.”

“naa don’t listen to him! He ate breakfast with Hillary one day!”


109 posted on 03/30/2009 1:10:04 PM PDT by ari-freedom ( Hail to the Dork!)
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

“So, how expensive are these cages to build?”

A tin shed, properly grounded, would work as a Faraday Cage.


110 posted on 03/30/2009 1:10:09 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag Fire.)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

Don’t worry, FR will destroy any newcomers for us. We are meant to live in Obamaland for life.


111 posted on 03/30/2009 1:10:16 PM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: Red_Devil 232

“If they hit Hawaii that takes care of a big ol’ problem that Obambi has.”

Or Obama might be hoping NK hits Alaska and takes care of that ‘pesky problem’ named Sarah for 2012.

The man already could be brought up on impeachment charges as far as I am concerned. He has negleted his first duty to defend our constitution and country!


112 posted on 03/30/2009 1:17:49 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: ClancyJ
If you don’t like Newt - so what. I don’t care who you like.

I come across as a supporter of zer0?

Apparently you didn't bother to read some of my posts regarding our chosen marxist leader.

Further more, I NEVER said I didn't like Newt, I said I don't trust him. I don't know about you but I was taught those are two very different things.

He has gotten weak in the knees too many times and has been a let down, just like most of the RINO's in Congress, sheesh

113 posted on 03/30/2009 1:30:24 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Wake up people, AIG executives are not the enemy, your Government is!)
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To: ClancyJ

newcomers that push global warming etc. we can do better.


114 posted on 03/30/2009 1:30:45 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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To: 444Flyer
A missile headed towards Hawaii and they might consider???????
115 posted on 03/30/2009 1:33:59 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: St. Louis Conservative
I like and trust Newt, personally.

Me too.

116 posted on 03/30/2009 1:35:45 PM PDT by Churchillspirit
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Why is it that we feel forced to post any negative about those on our side? Is it a badge of honor when we can tout the imperfectness of our team?

As long as we destroy our side if they do not do all as we expect, we will be doing the work for the democrats.

Do you ever run across negative comments on democrats by democrats? I don’t.

Not saying we wear blinders, but gee, we spend so much time criticising and supporting our own from that criticism that we do nothing that advances our agenda.

We will never ever all agree all the time with those leading our effort. But are we to use the website to express each and every action not meeting our standards?

Seems we could do more working against the dems with whatever tool we have - perfect or not. At least we would have a more stronger defense against the dems if we stood together.

And I am really looking for efforts against this administration to save our country. I don’t intend to waste time trying to defend our tools from those supposedly on our side.

I did that for 8 years.

Let the critics discuss among themselves, we need fighters to correct this mess.


117 posted on 03/30/2009 1:44:30 PM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: bill1952

I think Newt is a brilliant, but he is a human afflicted with some flaws, like every one else on this board.


118 posted on 03/30/2009 1:45:04 PM PDT by ChinaThreat (3)
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To: Constitutions Grandchild
"So, how expensive are these cages to build? Is it possible to retro-fit major buildings and services without costing more than we have? Wait, we’re broke, but assuming we had it to spend?"

I don't know. I have a tin shed out back and I think all I have to do is ground it well and things inside are protected.

119 posted on 03/30/2009 1:50:34 PM PDT by blam
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To: ari-freedom

1- Japan wasn’t as dependent on electronics as we are now
2- the bomb wasn’t detonated at a high enough level to cause emp

AND

3 - today’s bombs are as much as 100 times the magnitude of the WWII ones.
4 - today’s chip circuits are 1,000s of times more susceptible then the vacuum tubes of the 1940s and 1950s.


120 posted on 03/30/2009 1:51:54 PM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT 2006; now living north of Tampa Bay)
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To: ClancyJ

“We are not willing to have Americans killed to remove all doubt.”

The immediate result of an EMP detonation as described would be 0 fatalities. Since no deaths directly caused the UN would not authorize any deadly retaliation. Don’t forget Obama will take his orders from the UN. And any EMP over the backward civilization that the North Koreans have wouldn’t do any harm.


121 posted on 03/30/2009 1:54:41 PM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT 2006; now living north of Tampa Bay)
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To: George from New England

1- Japan wasn’t as dependent on electronics as we are now
2- the bomb wasn’t detonated at a high enough level to cause emp

AND

3 - today’s bombs are as much as 100 times the magnitude of the WWII ones.
4 - today’s chip circuits are 1,000s of times more susceptible then the vacuum tubes of the 1940s and 1950s.

I think a bigger issue would be that after the bomb dropped we did help the Japs back on their feet....I think that if we are seriously bombed, there will be a focus on extermination of US peoples by our enemies.


122 posted on 03/30/2009 1:55:16 PM PDT by Chickensoup ("Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.")
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To: Vaquero

As I said, he’s a politician.

Show me a policy that he’s not conservative on.


123 posted on 03/30/2009 1:57:21 PM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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To: Vaquero
Hows that global warming bull$h!t going Newt?

Hows that kissy face with Hillary going Newt?

That about sums it up. Nothing else to add...

124 posted on 03/30/2009 1:58:44 PM PDT by Eddie01 (Telling it like it is since "revolver" was released)
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To: ClancyJ
Let the critics discuss among themselves, we need fighters to correct this mess.

I couldn't agree with you more...problem is too many that are supposed to be on our side end up reaching across the isle and letting us down

Newt was an awesome leader in the 90's and I respect him very much for what he did but that was then and this is now.

The GOP is nothing more the the dem party of the nineties. If we're going to take back this Country, it isn't going to be with the current crop.

Where are they, do you see them or anyone out there explaining a Conservative vision? Hell, conservative women like Bachmann, Coulter, Malkin do a better job than our current leadership.

No one with the exception of a few will even call zer0 what he is, a socialist, marxist ENEMY of America and I'm f'n fed up with the whole lot of them

The SOB just took over the auto industry and the GOP says NOTHING.

Meanwhile my busines, along with many others, is tanking, I'm down 60% so far this year, damn right I'm pissed. I am sorry, but just because Newt comes out and says something, which I agreed with BTW, I am not going to get down on my knees and start worshipping him.

Tomorrow he'll be back on the couch with Nancy, no thanks.

125 posted on 03/30/2009 2:01:17 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Wake up people, AIG executives are not the enemy, your Government is!)
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To: Pellegrino

Excellent article on EMP here.......

http://blog.americancongressfortruth.com/2008/07/29/us-intel-iran-plans-nuclear-strike-on-us-Timmerman-reports-on-claremont-institute-meeting/


126 posted on 03/30/2009 2:03:55 PM PDT by dianed
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To: Pellegrino

IMHO Newt thinks only of Newt!


127 posted on 03/30/2009 2:09:03 PM PDT by longhorn too
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To: St. Louis Conservative

So do I. He’s got some great ideas and solutions. Very interesting to listen to as well.


128 posted on 03/30/2009 2:16:41 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: TruthFactor; Pellegrino; Zechariah_8_13; Ol Rob; ClancyJ
Correct. Note that nary a post discussed the topic of this thread, Newt's assertion regarding nuclear weapons.

Oh, and also unsaid is Newt's greatest achievement. Newt brought down a 40 year rat Congress.

According to the clowns here, this 90% conservative is a rino.

The rats did to Newt as they did to Bork, Thomas, Armey, GWB, Libby, Palin and others.

129 posted on 03/30/2009 2:17:52 PM PDT by Jacquerie (More Central Planning is not the solution to the failure of Central Planning.)
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To: bill1952
Newt is more of an American than every single democrat infesting the government today, and I would vote for him over them every day of the week, and twice on Sunday.

Yep.

I have a hard time using the words "nuke" and "don't worry about it" in the same sentence.

130 posted on 03/30/2009 2:24:23 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: ari-freedom
I’d rather have newt’s narcissism than lose, which is what republicans did after he wasn’t in charge

Newt's numerous abject failures as Speaker were one of the main reasons why Bill Clinton got re-elected in 1996.

131 posted on 03/30/2009 2:25:01 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: Publius6961

Great link.


132 posted on 03/30/2009 2:31:35 PM PDT by antidisestablishment (Our people perish through lack of wisdom, but they are content in their ignorance.)
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To: CindyDawg
The magnitude of that statement is astounding, isn't it. Dick Cheney is right. Obama’s decision process is a danger to our national security.
133 posted on 03/30/2009 2:42:49 PM PDT by 444Flyer (Don't beLIEve Obama.............................Never give up, never give in, never give out!)
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To: r9etb

Bob Dole is why Bill got his 2nd term.


134 posted on 03/30/2009 2:51:15 PM PDT by fantom
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To: Pellegrino

Whenever I see Newt’s name my stomach churns. He’s a RINO through and through.


135 posted on 03/30/2009 2:57:43 PM PDT by cblue55 (If you aren't outraged you aren't paying attention)
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To: LomanBill
A high altitude detonation, delivered by IBCM would come with a return address. For that reason, it won't be sent.

"One" or even a few wouldn't wipe us out, but it could quite well wipe out some other nation.

Since this is more the reality, then the big "it" boom-in-the-sky won't be launched from some other nations actual lands.

That leaves several other possible scenarios, none of which are pretty.

I'd prefer it if it came by ICBM (as Newt is rather ridiculously postulating is the present threat) for it would make nailing the sending party into the ground FUBAR'ed for nearly forvever, simple, simple, simple.

Newt is "close", and for some aspects, close does count -- in regards to nuclear weapons, but he's not quite precise. He might be ok as political historian, or even a politician himself, again, buy I'm glad he's not a ranking General in the Pentagon. He's no military tactician/strategist.

136 posted on 03/30/2009 3:22:34 PM PDT by BlueDragon
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137 posted on 03/30/2009 3:46:41 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Vaquero
RINO.

He went idiot. [Rant]

What he said in this article has been said by numerous other people already.

Newt was on some show on Fox the other day, I think maybe Gretta's show.

He praised Clinton and the way she was working hard on the Border problems. (Clinton then says US guns are arming the cartels) GRRRRRR.

Newt blamed the US people for the drug wars in Mexico, because we are an addicted society. He blamed the people of this country ... Not the politicians who have created these stupid laws ...

STF Newt. The War on Drugs caused the Mexican cartel wars, not actual American drug users - People in every country, since the beginning of time have used drugs.

Outlawing anything makes it go criminal. The government forgot that lesson from prohibition. Newt surely is part of the stupid drug policies gang of politicans.

Constitutionalists my foot. Just another typical washed out politician trying to remain relevant. Go have another affair or something, stay off my TV. [/RANT]

138 posted on 03/30/2009 3:57:47 PM PDT by 08bil98z24 (War on Drug supporters are enemies of the Constitution.)
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To: RaceBannon
Newt was always Newt, when he quit the congress during the Lewinsky scandal, I knew we’d been had

Newt wasn't the only one.
I just have two words for you:

FBI Files...

Political survival over principle. If anything, it's gotten worse.

139 posted on 03/30/2009 4:11:14 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Change is not a plan; Hope is not a strategy.)
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To: ctdonath2
What, exactly, is wrong with his expressed concern?

Read the second sentence in your post #51.
Hard to puzzle out his motivation.

140 posted on 03/30/2009 4:23:30 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Change is not a plan; Hope is not a strategy.)
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To: LomanBill
Those weren’t detonated at high altitude.

It wouldn't have mattered.

That was around 10 years before the transistor (and solid state devices and controls) were even invented.

Electronic equipment using vacuum tubes is pretty much immune.

141 posted on 03/30/2009 5:04:29 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Change is not a plan; Hope is not a strategy.)
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To: Pellegrino

Its not the fallout or blast radius, or even the EMP that concerns me that much, rather it is the resulting civil unrest and unraveling of society that would really put this nation into a tailspin. I can’t help but imagine several large cities looking like post Katrina New Orleans. Some of the unrest and rioting would be caused by true fear and worry, but most would be causes by sheer criminal opportunists.

I think the closer we get to the end, we’ll find the threads that bind society together are much more fragile than we think.


142 posted on 03/30/2009 5:15:41 PM PDT by sweetwaterfish (Keep yer powder dry!)
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To: fantom

Nope. Newt Gingrich had Clinton’s boot prints on his underwear and up his back. Clinton was in very deep trouble until Newt’s incompetence bailed him out.


143 posted on 03/30/2009 5:46:35 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: Pellegrino
Selected quotes from the article;

A simple, appropriate and important warning...to say the least.

144 posted on 03/30/2009 5:49:21 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Pellegrino

I got news for Newt, the Obamabomb has already struck the US and it has destroyed us for more that any nuclear bomb ever could. Its a sad time for the Good ol’ USA! :(


145 posted on 03/30/2009 5:50:15 PM PDT by 41Thunder (Live free or Die...Dammit)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

What in this Op-Ed do you find BS?


146 posted on 03/30/2009 5:51:18 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Ol Rob
If you support Newt, half of the posters will agree citing the importance of unity to overcome the leftist juggernaut. If you oppose Newt, the other half will accuse you of supporting a RINO thereby weakening the movement.

Newt a RINO? If you're a conservative, why wouldn't you support Newt? On a spectrum of Conservative vs. Liberal, Newt is clearly on the conservative side. You can disagree on "a" issue, but don't throw the baby out with the bath water. That is a losing political strategy. The left would love to marginalize "every" effective conservative leader.

Win the reins of power first, and then argue policy among yourselves. Anything else is a losing strategy. The left will sew dissent and confusion wherever thay can.

Remember, the enemy is the liberal left, and they must be defeated. Do not attack each other!

147 posted on 03/30/2009 5:53:20 PM PDT by TruthFactor (The Death of Nations: Pornography, Homosexuality, Abortion)
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To: Pellegrino

A single nuke would wreck anybody’s day.

At least it would clean out my basement.


148 posted on 03/30/2009 5:56:32 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Publius6961

You missed the juxtaposition with the fourth sentence in my post #51.

That which is absurd is easily dismissed - until it happens.
A tinpot-dictator third-world banana-republic terrorist country is both going nuclear and going orbital. They may very well have nukes, and they have a potentially spacegoing rocket on the launch pad right now.

The motivation of a talking head nee past politician is irrelevant in this context.

The motivation of a man telling you someone is about to shoot you is insignificant in the face of evidence someone is, in fact, rather likely to shoot you.


149 posted on 03/30/2009 6:04:43 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: Vaquero
Gingrich has a lot of smarts but like so many, many Republicans he wants to be loooooved by his demo and MSM enemies. That's what his whining about where he sat on AFO was about, and his palling around with Hillary and the Gorebal Warning crowd are all about.

He doesn't have the nuts to be a leader in tough times.

150 posted on 03/30/2009 6:18:26 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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