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5 killed, 2 injured in Santa Clara shooting (California)
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 3/30/09 | Matthew B.Stannard

Posted on 03/30/2009 10:42:09 AM PDT by Califreak

Edited on 03/30/2009 10:51:42 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

5 killed, 2 injured in Santa Clara shooting Matthew B. Stannard, Chronicle Staff Writer Monday, March 30, 2009 Fark (03-29) 22:51 PDT Santa Clara -- Santa Clara police were investigating a shooting Sunday night that left five people dead and two more, including an infant, fighting for their lives.


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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: California
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1 posted on 03/30/2009 10:42:09 AM PDT by Califreak
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To: Califreak

What the hell?!?


2 posted on 03/30/2009 10:43:31 AM PDT by Jagdgewehr
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To: Califreak

mmmm, is it me or has anyone noticed that every shooting now is being covered by the media.
How about all the shootings which happen every night in the cities/ghetto’s and slums.

I’m sure the anti gun folk now will be out in force about guns kill so I’m going to my drawer, pulling my SIG P229 out and now will talk tom it telling it that you have to behave as I don’t want any trouble froom you

ARF


3 posted on 03/30/2009 10:46:13 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: manc

At least this guy got it right:

choo_choo3/29/2009 11:28:13 PM

For everybody who wants to ban guns...chew on this. On Sept 11, 2001, 19 men figured out a way to kill over 3000 people WITHOUT FIRING A SINGLE SHOT. It’s not the guns. There’s something pathological going on that makes it possible for one human being to take the life of another. Yes...guns make it easy, but if you take away guns, two things will happen. First, people who want to kill will find other ways to do it. What’s to stop some lunatic from driving a car through a crowded intersection? What are you going to do then...ban cars? The second thing that will happen will be that only law abiding citizens will give up their guns. Criminals will still have them, and a black market for weapons will explode. And the last thing I want is for the criminals to have the upper hand. I want to be able to defend myself. So...if you want to stop killing...banning guns is not the answer.


4 posted on 03/30/2009 10:47:41 AM PDT by Califreak (111th Congress: Destroying America With Reckless Abandon)
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To: Califreak
The DNC Brownshirts were hitting the pravda media to bias public opionion?

I'm SHOCKED!!!

5 posted on 03/30/2009 10:48:05 AM PDT by a fool in paradise ("I certainly hope he (Bush) doesn’t succeed" - Democratic strategist James Carville 9-11-2001)
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To: Califreak
Tried leaving a comment. Got a network connection loss error.

My network is fine. Filtered or crashed on their end.

6 posted on 03/30/2009 10:48:12 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (1000110010101010100001001001111)
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To: Califreak

I swear, these people are deranged anti-gun demos that have a death wish and a grudge and as their last meaningful act in their lives, they go out and kill friends, family, co-workers, strangers just to give the media and their gun grabbing buddies ammunition in the “war on guns.”


7 posted on 03/30/2009 10:48:52 AM PDT by fightinbluhen51 ("MOLON LABE")
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To: manc
Were Shooters Unidentified in Press Because They Were Muslim? [muslim shooting rampage unreported] (Newsbusters March 30, 2009 05:38 Warner Todd Huston)
8 posted on 03/30/2009 10:49:42 AM PDT by a fool in paradise ("I certainly hope he (Bush) doesn’t succeed" - Democratic strategist James Carville 9-11-2001)
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To: manc

No, it aint just you. This same trick was played during the Clinton administration.

BTW, its interesting that ALL these shootings end the same way, with ONE and ONLY ONE common denominator.

The are always ended when the maniac runs into another person WITH A WEAPON!!!

But that won’t make the evening news, betcha.


9 posted on 03/30/2009 10:50:31 AM PDT by sneakin (Remember, always pillage BEFORE you burn.)
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To: manc

No, it aint just you. This same trick was played during the Clinton administration.

BTW, its interesting that ALL these shootings end the same way, with ONE and ONLY ONE common denominator.

The are always ended when the maniac runs into another person WITH A WEAPON!!!

But that won’t make the evening news, betcha.


10 posted on 03/30/2009 10:51:16 AM PDT by sneakin (Remember, always pillage BEFORE you burn.)
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To: manc

Absolutely right.

I posted the same sentiment last night after the nursing home shooting and got jumped on for an hour by a buncha weekenders.


11 posted on 03/30/2009 10:51:21 AM PDT by HelloooClareece ("We make war that we may live in peace". Aristotle)
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To: sneakin

It’s because this administration is Clinton II on steroids.


12 posted on 03/30/2009 10:52:20 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: sneakin

DOH!

MUST REMEMBER TO NEVER HIT THE POST BUTTON TWICE

SORRY FOLKS


13 posted on 03/30/2009 10:52:37 AM PDT by sneakin (Remember, always pillage BEFORE you burn.)
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To: Jagdgewehr

What’s with the Shooting Fever striking the USA?


14 posted on 03/30/2009 10:53:13 AM PDT by TaraP (The RAPTURE: Separation of Church and State)
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To: Califreak
At least this guy got it right:

He certainly did.

15 posted on 03/30/2009 10:56:39 AM PDT by 1035rep ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.")
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To: HelloooClareece

sorry to hear that


16 posted on 03/30/2009 10:57:47 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Califreak
But firing the president will feed into the class envy that permeates our society, including right here on FR

Take away guns and some 23 year old POS will stab his 17 year old sister and behead his 5 year old sister with a kitchen knife. It's not the tool, it's the criminal using it.

17 posted on 03/30/2009 10:59:39 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: manc
mmmm, is it me or has anyone noticed that every shooting now is being covered by the media.
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No, it's not just you! We all know that for the complete takeover and to make us an Oligarchy they have to get the guns. It's all in the plans. They think doing this will then give them a reason. But I have a clue for them, people will NOT give up their weapons and that will be the flash point of the 2nd revolution. I hope if they try it, they are prepared for the consequences that will likely occur.
18 posted on 03/30/2009 10:59:49 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: Califreak

People are still not connecting the dots to anti-depressants with these senseless shootings. It’s a common denominator in these shootings that has either been ignored, or has been buried.


19 posted on 03/30/2009 11:01:20 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Califreak

I agree, I make that same argument frequently. I say, when then we’ll have to ban knives, steak knives, baseball bats, heck the human hand is trouble in itself.

We need to get the violent criminals off the street, those are the problem.


20 posted on 03/30/2009 11:04:12 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: TaraP

It’s always been there, we’re just hearing about it more.

Last week 700+ LEO descended on Desert Hot Springs, CA to take the city back from the drug dealers, parolees and illegal immigrants, and barely a peep from the media. They pick and choose what to report based on their agenda.


21 posted on 03/30/2009 11:04:34 AM PDT by 1035rep ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.")
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To: Califreak

Obama economy and CA imploding because of liberalism. People are freaking out. I wonder if much of this happned during Carter’s semi-depression.


22 posted on 03/30/2009 11:04:45 AM PDT by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: TaraP

I’ve wondered this myself. Part of it may be (as some here have said) that we are seeing a selective bias in the way these things are (or are not) being reported (surprise! surprise!)

But I also wonder if part of this is owing to the constant Doom! Doom! Crisis! Crisis! “theme” to which we have been subjected by our government and news media. I suspect that there is always a small but dangerous fraction of the population who can be easily “pushed over the edge”.

There may also be an element of “heightened expectations” to this. My wife, who works in Latin America, has noticed that often after a leftist gets elected president in one of those countries, the crime rate goes up. I guess it finally dawns on these people that there is no hope for the politicians’ promises being fulfilled, so they decide to take matters into their own hands.


23 posted on 03/30/2009 11:05:50 AM PDT by Sigurdrifta
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To: Califreak
This happened at Rivermark - that's not too bad of a housing development.

I've looked into buying a home there in the past, and with luck I'll be buying something in a year... ...I gotta find out the address to make sure to avoid this one, 'cause maybe it will be released to the market around then...

24 posted on 03/30/2009 11:06:48 AM PDT by Yossarian (Everyday, somewhere on the globe, somebody is pushing the frontier of stupidity...)
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To: Yossarian

LOL


25 posted on 03/30/2009 11:15:18 AM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: manc

When a loon walks into a church, school, hospital, nursing home or whatever and kills multiple people, I sure as heck expect it to be covered. Don’t you?

I can’t say about all newspapers, but I know when I visited my parents in Louisiana last time, the New Orleans paper covered all the “little” drug and crimes of passion murders. Did they get national attention? Of course not, nor should they.


26 posted on 03/30/2009 11:16:02 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: Califreak
"There’s something pathological going on that makes it possible for one human being to take the life of another"

The lib/lefties have been mainstreaming evil in this country since WWII. In their world, everything we hold dear is anaethema to them and all that we abhor is to what they aspire.

27 posted on 03/30/2009 11:16:59 AM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: TaraP

Dem’s control gov. and people are depressed already, so they just go and shoot thier blues away!


28 posted on 03/30/2009 11:21:24 AM PDT by devistate one four (Cw II on the way! Stand by. TET68)
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To: TaraP

They must have missed the “Hope” and “Change” memo.


29 posted on 03/30/2009 11:21:34 AM PDT by Chet 99
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To: Frantzie

I lived in Chicago during the Carter administration and crime was rampant. Nearly every night we heard gun shots outside our apartment. I was the victim of a serious crime and the Chicago police actually came to me to tell me that my life was in danger because I had the audacity to report it. This was in a good neighborhood, only a block and a half away from the Drake Hotel. A rape in our building. My husband and our neighbor chased robbers down the alley. Everyone I knew had their apartments broken into.


30 posted on 03/30/2009 11:28:37 AM PDT by madinmadtown (It is good to be right.)
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To: Yossarian
This happened at Rivermark - that's not too bad of a housing development.

It's one of them urban beehives. I stay clear of 'em myself. It's been described as "upscale", but I'd say it's just "expensive". There was nothing but farmland there a few years ago.

You might want to try Santana Row. At least it's closer to stuff.

31 posted on 03/30/2009 11:31:12 AM PDT by shorty_harris
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To: Califreak

Okay this is just getting nuts. What is this three in three days? Four? I can’t even remember.

We are so going to get a huge gun ban thing crammed down our throats.


32 posted on 03/30/2009 11:33:47 AM PDT by Domandred (Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.)
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To: Califreak

I know I’m going to get in trouble for asking, but was there anything in the news about the race of the suspect/victims?


33 posted on 03/30/2009 11:35:57 AM PDT by Deo volente
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To: Califreak

“And the last thing I want is for the criminals to have the upper hand.”
* * * * * * * *

The thing is, they vote Dem, and the legal gun owners don’t.


34 posted on 03/30/2009 11:43:39 AM PDT by Canedawg (Conservatism is the antidote to tyranny- M. Levin)
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To: Califreak
"What’s to stop some lunatic from driving a car through a crowded intersection..."

Been done already ... several times recently. Cars and trucks can be very effective weapons against pedestrians.

35 posted on 03/30/2009 11:51:09 AM PDT by StormEye
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To: gracesdad

Yeah but if the pastor, teacher, or nurse took the killer down with a gun, I believe it would really be played down. Remember that woman that shot the guy at the church? The media went after any dirt they could find on her and then not much reporting.


36 posted on 03/30/2009 12:10:05 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Califreak

I am just trying to figure out how Soros is orchestrating this???


37 posted on 03/30/2009 12:44:06 PM PDT by Vaquero ( "an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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>The media went after any dirt they could find on her and then not much reporting.< I remember that. She should have been hailed as the hero she was on that day, not demonized by the press. That made me mad. Her name was Jeanne Assam. "It seemed like it was me, the gunman and God," said Ms Assam, who has a concealed weapons permit and a law enforcement background. She added that she prayed for the Holy Spirit to guide her and that her hands never shook. The pastor, Brady Boyd, credited her with preventing more bloodshed. "There could have been a great loss of life, and she probably saved over 100 lives," said Mr Boyd. He estimated that 40 rounds had been fired inside the church, leaving what looked like a "war scene". http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-501206/I-prayed-I-shot-The-glamorous-church-security-guard-shot-crazed-gunman.html Nope. No agenda, no bias in the media./ Dangit! What happened to my paragraphs?
38 posted on 03/30/2009 12:48:34 PM PDT by Califreak (111th Congress: Destroying America With Reckless Abandon)
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To: Myrddin

>But firing the president will feed into the class envy that permeates our society, including right here on FR<

Where’d that come from?


39 posted on 03/30/2009 12:50:53 PM PDT by Califreak (111th Congress: Destroying America With Reckless Abandon)
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To: StormEye; Califreak
Been done already ... several times recently.

Yep

"In March 2006, Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar, an Iranian-born American citizen, confessed to intentionally hitting people with a sport utility vehicle on the campus of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill to "avenge the deaths of Muslims worldwide" and to "punish" the United States government. While no one was killed in the attack, nine people were injured (none seriously)."

various FR Threads

40 posted on 03/30/2009 12:51:02 PM PDT by Domandred (Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.)
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To: Domandred

Yes.

When lone jihadists run amok, it is usually spun as a freak accident or an isolated incident.


41 posted on 03/30/2009 12:52:53 PM PDT by Califreak (111th Congress: Destroying America With Reckless Abandon)
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To: Deo volente

New details emerge in Santa Clara murder-suicide; 6 dead, 1 female critically wounded

(AP, 7 minutes ago.)

“None of the identities have been released.”

http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_12029867?source=most_emailed


42 posted on 03/30/2009 1:01:21 PM PDT by Califreak (111th Congress: Destroying America With Reckless Abandon)
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To: Califreak

Oops- that should be San Jose Mercury News, 11 minutes ago


43 posted on 03/30/2009 1:02:20 PM PDT by Califreak (111th Congress: Destroying America With Reckless Abandon)
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To: Califreak
Another poster made the comment about class warfare...even on FR. I was simply commenting on it.
44 posted on 03/30/2009 1:06:44 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

Weird how so many people here are taking that bait, isn’t it?

I’ve been noticing there seems to be an awful amount of infighting here on many topics.

I wish people would keep in mind that when we continually fight amongst ourselves, it only makes the other side stronger.


45 posted on 03/30/2009 1:10:09 PM PDT by Califreak (111th Congress: Destroying America With Reckless Abandon)
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To: madinmadtown

“I lived in Chicago during the Carter administration and crime was rampant.”

Local administration has much more to do with crime in a specific community than does the federal government.

When I was single, back in the golden age of Ronaldus Magnus, I visited my college buddies in Chicago. A lot. During that time, Jane Byrne was replaced by Harold Washington. When Byrne was mayor, she kept Rush Street clean so we could go get hammered without much fear of consequences. Although I once saw Chicago’s finest beating the crap out of some guy, but I guess it’s best to not ask too many questions just how Mayor Byrne kept “order” on Rush Street. However, when Washington became mayor, the next time I went up there you couldn’t walk out of a bar without being accosted by several hookers. It was a whole different atmosphere. And Reagan was still President.


46 posted on 03/30/2009 1:17:16 PM PDT by henkster (0bamanomics: "I'll loan you all the money you need to get out of debt.")
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To: Myrddin

By bait, I meant that some people seem to be buying into the class warfare mindset.


47 posted on 03/30/2009 1:36:04 PM PDT by Califreak (111th Congress: Destroying America With Reckless Abandon)
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To: manc
Shooting this a.m. in Pinellas Cty, Fl. 3 dead, one hospitalized. Naturally, the neighbors thought it was firecrackers and went bk to sleep. The shooting took place where they'd been arguing for days per the neighborhood.

The media seem to hate gun but sympathize w/the shooters no matter how heinous the crime.

48 posted on 03/30/2009 1:57:48 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri's Day March 31, 2009. Remember Terri Schiavo in your neck of the woods.)
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To: Sigurdrifta

“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.”

-H. L. Mencken


49 posted on 03/30/2009 2:51:19 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Califreak

Ok, am I the only one who thinks the left engineers many of these shooting incidents when ever they think they have a chance of passing onerous gun control laws? Call me paranoid but every time they want to pass a gun law shootings increase. There is also the fact that the MSM screams each shooting out and makes people think that thousands happen every day. When they have a gun law agenda coming up the MSM increases reporting on shootings.


50 posted on 03/30/2009 3:34:44 PM PDT by calex59
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