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The Executive Who Brought Down AIG
ABC News ^ | March 30, 2009 | By ANNA SCHECTER, BRIAN ROSS, and JUSTIN ROOD

Posted on 03/30/2009 8:02:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Joseph Cassano Made More Than $300 Million at the Insurance Firm He Virtually Bankrupted

The FBI and federal prosecutors are reportedly closing in on the AIG executive whose suspect investments cost the insurance giant hundreds of billions of dollars. The government is investigating whether or not 54-year old Brooklyn-native Joseph Cassano committed criminal fraud in virtually bankrupting the company.

"He almost single-handedly is responsible for bringing AIG down and by reference the economy of this country," said Rep. Jackie Speier (D-Ca.)

Cassano, who lives in London, made more than $300 million running the infamous Financial Products Division of AIG where he, with about a dozen others, committed AIG to insure what turned out to be more than a trillion dollars worth of junk quality loans held by banks.

"He is the golden boy of the casino," said Rep. Speier. "They basically took peoples' hard earned money and threw it away, gambled it and lost everything. And he must be held accountable for the fraud, for the dereliction of his duty, and for the havoc that he's wrought on America."

When approached by ABC News outside of his London home Cassano said he did not want to talk about the allegations against him.

Cassano Received $1M a Month Even After He Was Fired From AIG After the huge losses became known, Cassano was fired from AIG in early 2008, but he still received a salary of $1 million a month until Congress intervened. AIG has received about a $180 billion in bailout funds so far.

"AIG was insuring junk and it was the AIG insurance that made the junk marketable," said tax law expert Jack Blum. "American taxpayers have been put on the hook for this insurance junk."

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aig; bailouts; banking; cassano; dodd; paulson
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1 posted on 03/30/2009 8:02:49 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

See also:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/26793903/the_big_takeover


2 posted on 03/30/2009 8:04:17 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: PAR35; TigerLikesRooster; AndyJackson; Thane_Banquo; nicksaunt; MadLibDisease; happygrl; ...
*Ping!*
3 posted on 03/30/2009 8:06:29 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: Jim Robinson

Greta just had a guy from the Wash Times on her show. He has an email from some high level exec in that division of AIG from 2006, asking employees for contributions for Chris Dodd’s campaign. Short time later, Dodd had $160,000 in contributions from AIG.


4 posted on 03/30/2009 8:07:19 PM PDT by NoobRep
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To: Jim Robinson

So now it is a crime to make piss poor financial decisions? Great. Let’s start with Congress.


5 posted on 03/30/2009 8:07:24 PM PDT by Chet 99
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To: Jim Robinson

What about Rahm, Gorelnick, Raines and other Dems who destroyed Fannie & Freddie and caused far more damaged than AIG?


6 posted on 03/30/2009 8:07:45 PM PDT by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: Jim Robinson

Insurance fraud, wire fraud, mail fraud, RICO...

They’ll get the bastard.


7 posted on 03/30/2009 8:08:30 PM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: Jim Robinson

This is a growing scandal that will implicate Chris Dodd, Hank Paulson (Goldman Sachs), Tim Geithner, et al, for starters.


8 posted on 03/30/2009 8:09:26 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

See also: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2217759/posts


9 posted on 03/30/2009 8:11:17 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
ACORN should be camped out at his house.


10 posted on 03/30/2009 8:11:46 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Jim Robinson
See also South Park's take on the meltdown.

South Park Episode 1303

11 posted on 03/30/2009 8:12:22 PM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin "The Iron Lady of the North")
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To: NoobRep

Yup: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2217759/posts


12 posted on 03/30/2009 8:12:53 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

Indeed...this will be interesting.


13 posted on 03/30/2009 8:12:53 PM PDT by amom (Proud Tanker Mom)
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To: Jim Robinson

Additional information

http://www.forbes.com/2008/09/28/croesus-aig-credit-biz-cx_rl_0928croesus.html

“The answer [to how AIG got into trouble] is clearly spelled out in the footnotes to AIG’s (nyse: AIG - news - people ) 2007 consolidated financial statement. “In most cases AIGFP (American International Group Financial Products) does not hedge its exposures related to credit default swaps it has written.”

“By the close of 2007, AIG held $562 billion risky and dangerous unhedged credit default swap (CDS) contracts on its books. That amounted to more than half of all AIG’s assets. AIGFP, managed by Joseph Cassano, until he was pushed out in early 2008, was the dangerous operation singled out by The New York Times Sunday as the “small, freewheeling unit” that “brought AIG to its knees.”

Croesus was informed Saturday that these complex contracts were hedged until former Chairman Hank Greenberg was ousted from his post in April 2005. Sources close to Greenberg claim AIG held very little subprime paper, if any, before April 2005. But during the last part of 2005 AIG got deeply into subprime mortgages.”

Wasn’t it em prosectors who forved Greenberg out? Just curious


14 posted on 03/30/2009 8:13:57 PM PDT by Gothmog (I fight for Xev)
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To: Petronski

Sometimes you can be so smart you’re actually stupid - post crash reviews have shown that the fancy risk modeling software simply didn’t account for a price collapse that we witnessed. I saw it coming and depite my misgivings stayed in the market - well diversified and I’m still down close to 50%. Stupid doesn’t necessarily mean criminal.


15 posted on 03/30/2009 8:14:17 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’ll see your coup and raise you a coup w/jail time.


16 posted on 03/30/2009 8:18:35 PM PDT by rvoitier (O.B.A.M.A. - One Big-Ass Mistake, America)
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To: Gothmog
Croesus was informed Saturday that these complex contracts were hedged until former Chairman Hank Greenberg was ousted from his post in April 2005.

IIRC, Hank Greenburg was forced out by the States Attorney Spitzer. Greenburg is a Pub businessman and Spitzer a typical Rat piece of crap.

17 posted on 03/30/2009 8:19:33 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: Petronski
They’ll get the bastard.

Who will? This couldn't have worked out better for the Left. Obama just took over a company that was one of the bedrocks of this country, tossed out the president, gave a speech from the White House about power-train warranties and have the the whole country cheering over it.

I cannot believe what we are seeing. How can this country that destroyed Fascist Europe and brought the Soviet Union to it's crumbling demise be the same country that is now gleefully skipping into Communism?

18 posted on 03/30/2009 8:19:50 PM PDT by txroadkill (God Help Us-The Rats are in charge! And they aren't paying their taxes!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Sounds like a drop in the bucket compared to what Franklin Raines and Jamie Gorelick pulled out of the “Mae’s”.


19 posted on 03/30/2009 8:21:04 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: txroadkill

“I cannot believe what we are seeing. How can this country that destroyed Fascist Europe and brought the Soviet Union to it’s crumbling demise be the same country that is now gleefully skipping into Communism?”

It is the revenge of the irrelevent...the story of Washington against America.


20 posted on 03/30/2009 8:21:24 PM PDT by mo
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To: txroadkill

Geithner made a statement the other day about the AIG policy holders not getting a full pay out on claims.


21 posted on 03/30/2009 8:22:12 PM PDT by Eva (CHANGE- the post modern euphemism for Marxist revolution.)
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To: Tunehead54

Renaming insurance with a non-insurance name and selling it without adequate reserves—without even calculating adequate reserves—is or should be insurance fraud.


22 posted on 03/30/2009 8:23:29 PM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: Jim Robinson

Here it comes:

Former AIG exec draws scrutiny - Federal prosecutors and FBI agents are investigating Joseph Cassano

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2218631/posts


23 posted on 03/30/2009 8:24:14 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

Fom Wikipedia:

Greenberg served in the US Army in WWII and helped liberate Dachau and is/was member of the CFR

“Interaction with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
On September 20, 2006, the Council on Foreign Relations hosted a small meeting of select council members with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. While giving his speech, President Ahmadinejad expressed doubt that the holocaust had occurred. Greenberg responded: “Listen, I went through Dachau during the war. To suggest it didn’t occur is simply a lie.” President Ahmadinejad responded by asking if Greenberg was old enough to have participated in the liberation of Dachau.

“Fraud allegations
On March 15, 2005, AIG’s board forced Greenberg to resign from his post as Chairman and CEO under the shadow of criticism from Eliot Spitzer, attorney general of the state of New York. On May 26, 2005, as part of a series of actions against leaders of large corporations, Spitzer filed a complaint against Greenberg, AIG, and Howard I. Smith (ex-CFO of AIG) alleging fraudulent business practice, securities fraud, common law fraud, and other violations of insurance and securities laws. Greenberg’s public statements show that he found the Spitzer investigation to be very troubling. He maintained his innocence throughout the investigation, and alluded to the possibility that Eliot Spitzer might be conducting a high-profile witch-hunt in the interests of furthering his political ambitions.

“Criminal charges
After a subsequent investigation, however, all criminal charges were dropped, and Greenberg was not held responsible for any crimes. The State Attorney General’s office however is still pursuing Mr. Greenberg in civil court for many of these same criminal allegations.

“Civil charges
Spitzer did, however, bring civil charges against Greenberg, though he dropped two of the six initial charges in September, 2006.[3] Greenberg’s attorney claimed vindication with the dropping of the two charges, but Spitzer’s office maintained that the four remaining charges are the core of the State’s original charges.”


24 posted on 03/30/2009 8:24:23 PM PDT by Gothmog (I fight for Xev)
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Yeah. I heard about this guy in a bar in NY tonight. In London and can’t touch him.


25 posted on 03/30/2009 8:25:33 PM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: Tunehead54

There is a concept in law call “common commercial practice”. Example if a government contract specifies paint the battery in accordance to common commercial practices, the vendor in the battery business knows what this means. Try using paint not commonly used in commercial practice, the contract can be void. Question for AIG when they embarked on all this high risk scheme with other people’s money and package it as a normal investment, is it within the definition of “common commercial practice”. Example if I start a mutual fund that is rated low risk, and common commercial practice is no more than 1 percent of the assets are leveraged, and on Sep 2008 the fund collapses because I decided to leverage up to 10 percent of the fund assets in order to be competitive with other funds, am I incompetent or fraudulant???


26 posted on 03/30/2009 8:26:01 PM PDT by Fee (Peace, prosperity, jobs and common sense)
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To: NoobRep

Fox and Friends reported that this morning


27 posted on 03/30/2009 8:26:28 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for Obama: One Bad Ass Mistake America)
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To: wmfights

yep see post 24, I’m not suggesting any conspiracy, just pehaps ironic, Spitzer thought he knew what was better for the public by taking down Greenberg, disaster reults, now Obama is acting like Spitzer with likely same results.


28 posted on 03/30/2009 8:28:19 PM PDT by Gothmog (I fight for Xev)
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To: NoobRep
You know what I'd like to see? I'd like to see a rundown on the perps heading up all these corporate meltdowns - AIG, Goldman Sachs, Lehman bros, GM, etc. I'd like to know where these people all went to school, who their BFFs are, what party they're affiliated with, and who they made their donations to.

I suspect that the old "Rich Fat Republican" myth is exactly that... a myth. And yet the GOP is going to end up being blamed for all of this mess when it's clear the Libtards have infiltrated the last bastion of Capitalist Conservatism - Wall Street.

29 posted on 03/30/2009 8:29:37 PM PDT by ponygirl (Scooby Doo Generation: Behind every supernatural mystery is a disgruntled former employee.)
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To: Jim Robinson
"He is the golden boy of the casino," said Rep. Speier. "They basically took peoples' hard earned money and threw it away, gambled it and lost everything. And he must be held accountable for the fraud, for the dereliction of his duty, and for the havoc that he's wrought on America."

Never mind whether what he did was legal or illegal - HE GAMBLED AND LOST!

Obviously, he should be executed for this crime! /sarc

I what this man did was legal (but stupid), then the jackasses in congress are the criminals - they violated their oaths to uphold the constitution, and instead raped the taxpayer to bail out AIG and its banker creditors.

I'll stop ranting now.

30 posted on 03/30/2009 8:31:08 PM PDT by MortMan (Power without responsibility-the prerogative of the harlot throughout the ages. - Rudyard Kipling)
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To: Jim Robinson

Cassano, Joseph
Westport, CT 06880
AIG Financial Products Corp/Fincial OBAMA, BARACK (D)
President
OBAMA VICTORY FUND $2,500
primary 07/24/08

Cassano, Joseph
Westport, CT 06880
AIG Financial Products Corp/Fincial OBAMA, BARACK (D)
President
OBAMA FOR AMERICA $2,300
primary 01/10/08

CASSANO, JOSEPH
WESTPORT, CT 06880
AIG/PRESIDENT BAUCUS, MAX (D)
Senate - MT
FRIENDS OF MAX BAUCUS $2,000
primary 03/16/07

CASSANO, JOSEPH
WESTPORT, CT 06880
AIG FINANCIAL/PRESIDENT & CEO DODD, CHRISTOPHER J (D)
Senate - CT
FRIENDS OF CHRIS DODD $2,100
primary 11/22/06

Cassano, Joseph
Westport, CT 06880
AIG Financial DODD, CHRISTOPHER J (D)
President
CHRIS DODD FOR PRESIDENT INC $2,100
primary 11/22/06

Cassano, Joseph
Westport, CT 06880
AIG Financial Products/President/CE JOHNSON, NANCY L. (R)
House (CT 05)
JOHNSON FOR CONGRESS COMMITTEE $2,000
general 07/26/06

CASSANO, JOSEPH
WESTPORT, CT 06880
AIG FINANCIAL PRODUCTS DODD, CHRISTOPHER J (D)
Senate - CT
FRIENDS OF CHRIS DODD $718
primary 04/28/04

CASSANO, JOSEPH
WESTPORT, CT 06880
AIG FINANCIAL PRODUCTS DODD, CHRISTOPHER J (D)
Senate - CT
FRIENDS OF CHRIS DODD $1,200
primary 04/18/04

CASSANO, JOSEPH
WESTPORT, CT 06880
AIG FINANCIAL PRODUCTS DODD, CHRISTOPHER J (D)
Senate - CT
98 FRIENDS OF CHRIS DODD $1,000
primary 07/10/98

http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?city=Westport++++++++++&st=CT&last=cassano&first=joseph


31 posted on 03/30/2009 8:31:30 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: FormerLib
Sounds like a drop in the bucket compared to what Franklin Raines and Jamie Gorelick pulled out of the “Mae’s”.

Not to mention the 5 trillion in debt owned or guaranteed by Fannie and Freddie.

32 posted on 03/30/2009 8:31:31 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: MortMan
IF what this man did was legal...

ARrrrrgggghhhhh! Dang fat fingers!

33 posted on 03/30/2009 8:32:29 PM PDT by MortMan (Power without responsibility-the prerogative of the harlot throughout the ages. - Rudyard Kipling)
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To: Jim Robinson
My daughter works for AIG in Amarillo, TX. This is an excerpt from an email I received from her this afternoon

You know, I'm so sick of this shit w/ AIG I don't even care what they do. Some idiots screw up and it effects thousands of employees in the company and in a bad way.

34 posted on 03/30/2009 8:34:29 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for Obama: One Bad Ass Mistake America)
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To: Jim Robinson
Soros, Rich and now Cassano. And their enablers, Clintons, Dodd, Frank and Obama and company.

Pick pockets and Grifters one and all.
35 posted on 03/30/2009 8:34:41 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Cassano’s wife, Ellen Hooker

Hooker, Ellen P
WESTPORT, CT
06880 $2,300 01/18/2008 P OBAMA FOR AMERICA - Democrat

Hooker, Ellen
WESTPORT, CT
06880 N/A $2,100 11/22/2006 P CHRIS DODD FOR PRESIDENT INC - Democrat


36 posted on 03/30/2009 8:35:09 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Chet 99

I agree.


37 posted on 03/30/2009 8:38:10 PM PDT by Diggity
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To: Jim Robinson

AIG Insurance Policies.

CASSANO, JOSEPH
WESTPORT,CT 06880 AIG FINANCIAL PRODUCTS CORP/FINCIAL 1/10/08 $2,300 Obama, Barack (D)

Cassano, Joseph
Westport,CT 06880 AIG Financial Products Corp 7/31/08
$2,300 Obama, Barack (D)

CASSANO, JOSEPH
WESTPORT,CT 06880 AIG FINANCIAL 11/22/06 $2,100 Dodd, Chris (D)

CASSANO, JOSEPH
WESTPORT,CT 06880 AIG/PRESIDENT 3/16/07 $2,000 Baucus, Max (D)

Cassano, Joseph
Westport,CT 06880 AIG Financial Products Corp/Fincial 7/24/08 $200 DNC Services Corp (D)


38 posted on 03/30/2009 8:38:21 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (We have nothing to fear but Obama himself.)
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To: rabscuttle385

before the hoopla of 2007-2008, Cassano already was in deep water with the regulators. 2004 allegations filed against Cassano, which were subsequently swept under the rug via an $80 million settlement between AIG and the SEC/DOJ, contained some serious charges:

The complaint alleged that AIG-FP PAGIC [Cassano’s group] violated federal securities laws by aiding and abetting securities law violations by a public company, PNC Financial Services Group Inc. (”PNC”), in connection with a transaction entered into in 2001 with PNC that was intended to enable PNC to remove certain assets from its balance sheet. The complaint alleged that AIG-FP PAGIC knew, or was deliberately ignorant in not knowing, that the PNC transaction did not satisfy the requirements of GAAP for non-consolidation of special purpose entities.

After the $80 million settlement, the complaint was dismissed “with prejudice after the DOJ and SEC agreed not to prosecute AIG or AIG-FP in connection with the PNC transactions.” Hillariously, again like in the Madoff debacle, the ultimate guilty party may again end up being the SEC. And while the Madoff fallout impacted a bunch of high net worth individuals, the SEC’s light treatment of Cassano’s infraction resulted in the collapse of the financial system. Yet somehow, none of the individuals who are responsible for Madoff’s and Cassano’s $600 billion in combined losses (and the financial system’s utter collapse) are behind bars...

http://tinyurl.com/dhz293


39 posted on 03/30/2009 8:38:37 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Jim Robinson
Aftger Obama's snub of PM Brown, I imagine the Brits will pull out ALL the stops to keep Cassano from ever being extridited.

Cassano was just a funnelanyway. Freddie and Fannie, Gorelick and company, are the true critters behind this mess, and going after Cassano is simply a method of diversion away from the real culprits right in our own government, including the State Senators from the 5 states that have the highest residential mortgage defaults: Florida, Nevada, Arizona, Wisconsin and Colorado.Without those states we would not have much of a mortgage crisis, and the Senatators greased the rails for the subprime mortgages in their respective states. Harry Reid was the busiest little clam, Nevada has a 48% residential mortgage default rate.

40 posted on 03/30/2009 8:38:40 PM PDT by Candor7 (The weapons of choice against fascism are ridicule, and derision. (member NRA)
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To: txroadkill
Who will?

RTFA

41 posted on 03/30/2009 8:40:00 PM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: Jim Robinson

Contributor Occupation Date Amount Recipient
CASSANO, JOSEPH
WESTPORT,CT 06880 AIG FINANCIAL PRODUCTS CORP/FINCIAL 1/10/08 $2,300 Obama, Barack (D)
Cassano, Joseph
Westport,CT 06880 AIG Financial Products Corp 7/31/08 $2,300 Obama, Barack (D)
CASSANO, JOSEPH
WESTPORT,CT 06880 AIG FINANCIAL/PRESIDENT & CEO 11/22/06 $2,100 Dodd, Christopher J (D)
CASSANO, JOSEPH
WESTPORT,CT 06880 AIG FINANCIAL 11/22/06 $2,100 Dodd, Chris (D)
CASSANO, JOSEPH
WESTPORT,CT 06880 AIG FINANCIAL PRODUCTS/PRESIDENT/CE 7/26/06 $2,000 Johnson, Nancy L (R)
CASSANO, JOSEPH
WESTPORT,CT 06880 AIG/PRESIDENT 3/16/07 $2,000 Baucus, Max (D)
CASSANO, JOSEPH
WESTPORT,CT 06880 AIG FINANCIAL PRODUCTS 4/18/04 $1,200 Dodd, Chris (D)
CASSANO, JOSEPH
WESTPORT,CT 06880 AIG FINANCIAL PRODUCTS 7/10/98 $1,000 Dodd, Christopher J (D)
CASSANO, JOSEPH
WESTPORT,CT 06880 AIG FINANCIAL PRODUCTS 4/28/04 $718 Dodd, Chris (D)
Cassano, Joseph
Westport,CT 06880 AIG Financial Products Corp/Fincial 7/24/08 $200 DNC Services Corp (D)


42 posted on 03/30/2009 8:40:33 PM PDT by BreezyDog
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To: Petronski

Joseph Cassano

He even has hair like Chris Dodd. I bet that won't keep well in a prison cell. Oink!

43 posted on 03/30/2009 8:43:16 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: BIGLOOK

Amen.


44 posted on 03/30/2009 8:49:57 PM PDT by madinmadtown (It is good to be right.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
The guy looks like a sleazy weasel, don't you think?
Blech! That pic makes my skin crawl not even knowing what the creep did!
45 posted on 03/30/2009 8:57:39 PM PDT by scott says (Jesus is coming---Look Busy!)
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To: Jim Robinson

So they found a convenient fall guy, thats great! He might even be guilty. Unlike, for example, other AIG employees that Barney Frank wanted to subject to public ridicule.

Isn’t this what Spitzer did to Hank Greenberg? He made public statements and accusations, forced Greenberg to resign and then filed no charges. But hey, Spitzer was laughing all the way to Albany.

Now Greenberg is gone and AIG is bust. The government uses it as a venue for money laundering and we, at a conservative web site, are celebrating an attack on another AIG executive. Way to go!


46 posted on 03/30/2009 9:07:03 PM PDT by bluejay
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To: Jim Robinson

It will be interesting to read what fintag.com says about this jerk tomorrow morning.


47 posted on 03/30/2009 9:09:27 PM PDT by japaneseghost
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To: bluejay

I don’t know. Looks to me like Cassano perpetrated the insurance fraud scheme and cooked the books to hide it. Chris Dodd and Hank Paulson knew of it and were enablers and direct beneficiaries. Dodd the regulator was bribed. When the scheme fell apart because of the mortgage market debacle, Paulson saw the handwriting on the wall and went to Bush. His b/s story scared Bush so badly that he went along with the 700 billion dollar payoff which was really designed to plug the holes so the whole scheme didn’t collapse and expose the truth. Obviously it didn’t work. In the second round, now with Geithner calling the shots, he had Dodd write in the amendment to authorize the AIG exec bonuses which were payoffs to Cassano’s employees as hush money to keep them quiet. But that blew up too, so now these stiffed execs are talking to the prosecutors. Won’t be long until the stuff hits the fan. There’s enough here to bring down a whole boatload of big fish.


48 posted on 03/30/2009 9:26:02 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

If I were a criminal investigator with the U.S. Attorney’s Office, I’d work on just such a model.


49 posted on 03/30/2009 9:30:27 PM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: bluejay

Ever study law? Economics?


50 posted on 03/30/2009 9:31:31 PM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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