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1 posted on 03/31/2009 8:48:15 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
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Gee, who’d a thunk it?

2 posted on 03/31/2009 8:54:50 AM PDT by sionnsar (Iran Azadi | 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | "Also sprach Telethustra" - NonValueAdded)
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To: rabscuttle385
California, Massachusetts, Michigan.

These are the states to watch. This is what Democrats do when they have power.

California has abundant natural resources and educational and technical resources. Didn't help.
Massachuetts has educational and technical resources. Didn't help.
Michigan has farming and heavy industry. Didn't help.

The Democrats turn everything to crap.

3 posted on 03/31/2009 9:00:28 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (American Revolution II -- overdue)
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Health care is NOT a right. Health care is a service provided by trained professionals. Health care is a resource that is subject to scarcity, supply and demand rules, and other market factors.

Health care is a human need, but not a right. Even then, as a need it is subject to gray areas.

We *need* food. Most of us use the money from our jobs to buy food. Therefore we need to go to work. Work is miles away, so we need cars to get there. So, as a need, I need the government to provide me with a car. I need it to survive. It’s my RIGHT.

4 posted on 03/31/2009 9:01:21 AM PDT by bolobaby
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Universal health care is like universal public education. It’s a way for the ruling class to get the middle class to pay for the lower class. It guarrantees that those paying will get less than they pay for. And for that reason, it must be coercive.

6 posted on 03/31/2009 9:04:54 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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ha ha.

epic fail.

fails everytime its tried.

rationing, kill the old, don’t try to extend life... blah blah

7 posted on 03/31/2009 9:05:28 AM PDT by GeronL (
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socialism is unsustainable

8 posted on 03/31/2009 9:06:29 AM PDT by GeronL (
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Fascist dictator-carpetbagger Mitt Romney chortles
as he inflicts socialized medicine (HillaryCARE=ROmneyCARE)
upon Massachusetts citizens, without one of their votes (the ROMNEYway(TM)).

Sen. John Kerry to Don Imus on RomneyCARE=HillaryCARE: "I like this health care bill".

Sen. Hillary Clinton on RomneyCARE=HillaryCARE: "To come up with a bipartisan plan in this polarized environment is commendable."


"Hospital patients 'left in agony'"
"Patients were allegedly left screaming in pain and drinking from flower vases on a nightmare hospital ward.
Between 400 and 1,200 more people died than would have been expected at Mid Staffordshire NHS Foundation Trust over three years, a damning Healthcare Commission report said.
The watchdog's investigation found inadequately trained staff who were too few in number, junior doctors left alone in charge at night and patients left without food, drink or medication as their operations were repeatedly cancelled.
Patients were left in pain or forced to sit in soiled bedding for hours at a time and were not given their regular medication, the Commission heard.
Receptionists with no medical training were expected to assess patients coming in to A&E, some of whom needed urgent care.
Sir Bruce Keogh, medical director of the NHS, said there had been a "gross and terrible breach" of patients' trust and a "complete failure of leadership".
The Healthcare Commission's chairman Sir Ian Kennedy said the investigation followed concerns about a higher than normal death rate at the Trust, which senior managers could not explain.
He said: "The resulting report is a shocking story. Our report tells a story of appalling standards of care and chaotic systems for looking after patients. These are words I have not previously used in any report.
"There were inadequacies in almost every stage of caring for patients. There was no doubt that patients will have suffered and some of them will have died as a result."
Julie Bailey, 47, was so concerned about the care being given to her 86-year-old mother Bella at Stafford Hospital that she and her relatives slept in a chair at her bedside for eight weeks.
She said: "We saw patients drinking out of..."

National Health Preview - The Massachusetts debacle, coming soon to your neighborhood.
Three years ago, the former Massachusetts Governor had the inadvertent good sense to create the "universal" health-care program that the White House and Congress now want to inflict on the entire country.
It is proving to be instructive, as Mr. Romney's foresight previews what President Obama, Max Baucus, Ted Kennedy and Pete Stark are cooking up for everyone else.
In Massachusetts's latest crisis, Governor Deval Patrick and his Democratic colleagues are starting to move down the path that government health plans always follow when spending collides with reality -- i.e., price controls.
As costs continue to rise, the inevitable results are coverage restrictions and waiting periods. It was only a matter of time.

They're trying to manage the huge costs of the subsidized middle-class insurance program that is gradually swallowing the state budget.
The program provides low- or no-cost coverage to about 165,000 residents, or three-fifths of the newly insured, and is budgeted at $880 million for 2010, a 7.3% single-year increase that is likely to be optimistic.
The state's overall costs on health programs have increased by 42% (!) since 2006.

What really whipped along RomneyCare were claims that health care would be less expensive if everyone were covered.
But reducing costs while increasing access are irreconcilable issues.
Mr. Romney should have known better before signing on to this not-so-grand experiment, especially since the state's "free market" reforms that he boasts about have proven to be irrelevant when not fictional.
Only 21,000 people have used the "connector" that was supposed to link individuals to private insurers.

10 posted on 03/31/2009 9:15:50 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: rabscuttle385

Romney’s signature accomplishment meant to appeal to the political center. Unfortunately for him, this is going to bust him for 2012.

We conservatives will be on his case for will a legion of Democrats.

11 posted on 03/31/2009 9:19:31 AM PDT by cookcounty (Obama got Bush's inheritance and now he wants your kids')
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Let’s see how the state handles it. A black hole for the workers money or sunset the damm thing.

13 posted on 03/31/2009 9:22:32 AM PDT by devistate one four (Cw II on the way! Stand by. TET68)
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As an admitted Romney supporter . . .

This illustrates a good point. Romneys original plan wasn’t awful, probably just bad. But, when Government Politicians run anything they can’t resist giving more and more away until the program fails. Same for social security, medicare, etc. Each started with a “reasonably” good objective, and if they strictly adhered to their original objectives, they wouldn’t be the huge unfunded liability that they are today.

Short story - lesson learned (again) - Government out of Health Care !

14 posted on 03/31/2009 9:34:45 AM PDT by crescen7 (game on)
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A little thing like abject failure has never stopped the left from pursing its goals with blind ferocity.

Sickening, really, that a Republican's fingerprints are on this debacle. RomneyCare alone should be the last nail in Mitt-wit's coffin. The fact that he got the Heritage Foundation to endorse it should redound to their everlasting shame.
15 posted on 03/31/2009 9:41:00 AM PDT by Antoninus (So now "change" is defined as "more of the same, but worse"?)
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How do you dismantle something like this? Just in case we have to do the same or obamacare. It would be nice to say, “Yes, we can’t undo a government program!”

Didn’t Hawaii shut down a smaller program recently?

17 posted on 03/31/2009 9:56:39 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ( Obama, you're off the island!)
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19 posted on 03/31/2009 10:39:15 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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Budgeted for Fiscal Year 2010 at $880 million, or 7.3 percent more than a year ago, this plan, aimed at providing low- or no-cost health coverage to roughly 165,000 residents,

Over $5,000 a head.

21 posted on 03/31/2009 11:08:44 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Time to waterboard that teleprompter and find out what it knows.)
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To: rabscuttle385; broncobilly; sickoflibs; fieldmarshaldj

Say what? You mean it’s not “just like forcing you to buy auto insurance” as Broncobilly once told me or “much better than what the democrats would have done” as someone said. It’s exactly what the democrats wanted and they could have passed it over his veto if he had opposed it.

Or I suppose it’s all Deval’s fault cause he can’t run the socialist program properly like a genius like Romney can.

“I’m Alf Landon and I approve this message because as a Republican I can run FDR’s socialist programs better than him. I can’t believe I only won 2 states with that great platform.”

27 posted on 03/31/2009 10:16:23 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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Socialized Medicine aka Universal Health Care PING LIST

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30 posted on 04/01/2009 8:30:45 AM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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