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Upstate battle for Kirsten Gillibrand Congressional seat is too-close-to-call
New York Daily News ^ | Tuesday, March 31st 2009, 10:53 PM | ap wire

Posted on 03/31/2009 8:52:42 PM PDT by Vigilanteman

ALBANY — After a short, tense campaign, the two candidates in a New York congressional special election that focused on President Barack Obama's popularity and his economic policy were separated by fewer than 100 votes, and it looked likely the race would be decided by absentee ballots.

With all but one of the 610 voting precincts in the 20th Congressional District reporting, Democrat Scott Murphy led Republican Jim Tedisco by 81 votes out of more than 154,000 cast Tuesday in the race to replace Democrat Kirsten Gillibrand. A problem with a machine in Saratoga Springs delayed the final reporting from one precinct.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 20th; gillibrand; murphy; ny2009; tedisco
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Sounds like another election theft in progress.
1 posted on 03/31/2009 8:52:42 PM PDT by Vigilanteman
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To: Vigilanteman

With 60,000 Republicans in the district, it is pathetic it is this close. Some are saying well at least it is that close...anything to give a pass to the Republicans. See what happens when we don’t shout out our conservative values. We end up shouting “Theft”. We should have easily won this election. That should be our talking points...Why did we not win this seat easily.


2 posted on 03/31/2009 8:55:37 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Vigilanteman

There are almost 10,000 absentees out. The only thing we’ll know tonight, is that we won’t know who won - probably not for a few weeks.

The GOP traditionally does well in absentees, however the Dems have been doing better since about 2006. It’s impossible to say who won here.

Goodnight, FRiends.


3 posted on 03/31/2009 8:55:37 PM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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To: napscoordinator

Yep. I was dismayed to see Tedisco take a stridently populist stand here. He vacillated on the stimulus bill and that made him look bad.

This should have been crystal clear for Tedisco: I’m for low taxes & responsible spending. Murphy is for a $4 trillion budget, tripling the deficit, and higher taxes on everyone.

For some reason, Tedisco spent most of his time trashing Wall Street.


4 posted on 03/31/2009 8:57:37 PM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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To: St. Louis Conservative

The Democrat will win after they get done with the absentee count. There will be shenanigans such as happened in Minnesota with Al Franken. The Democrat will win. I will be pleasantly surprised if the Republican won instead.


5 posted on 03/31/2009 8:57:51 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: napscoordinator
Why did we not win this seat easily.

Because half the voters are stupid enough to vote for the Democrat.

6 posted on 03/31/2009 8:57:53 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Dilbert San Diego

All the absentees have been impounded per court order. I think the GOP was actually pretty on top of vote shenanigans in this district.


7 posted on 03/31/2009 8:58:54 PM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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To: FreeReign

Sadly you are correct.


8 posted on 03/31/2009 8:59:35 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: FreeReign

Can we change hearts and minds?


9 posted on 03/31/2009 9:04:30 PM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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To: Vigilanteman

when elections are close, you can bet that the Dems will have the tricks to steal it.


10 posted on 03/31/2009 9:05:56 PM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL (Hope and Change. Rhetoric embraced by the Insane - Obama, The Chump in Charge)
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To: napscoordinator

Thank the Libertarian candidate days ago throwing his support to his fellow pro abortion Democrat friend.


11 posted on 03/31/2009 9:06:49 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: Vigilanteman
Sounds like another election theft in progress.

I can't remember his name, but a Dem for the 60's era said if it's close we will steal it. So you better win by a lot.

12 posted on 03/31/2009 9:07:44 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Vigilanteman

I wouldn’t put ANYTHING past the Obama types, but let’s not get into “instant conspiracy mongering mode” like the left did throughout the Bush presidency.

Do you have any solid reason to believe that this is election fraud?


13 posted on 03/31/2009 9:08:07 PM PDT by LifeComesFirst (Until the unborn are free, nobody is free)
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To: Vigilanteman
59 vote margin
14 posted on 03/31/2009 9:11:13 PM PDT by Norman Bates
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To: St. Louis Conservative
Can we change hearts and minds?

Yes.

Nov. 2008
(D) Gillibrand 62%
(R) Treadwell 38%

Mar. 2009
(D) Murphy 50%
(R) Tedisco 50%

15 posted on 03/31/2009 9:11:47 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Vigilanteman
Something is very, very wrong. These elections simply CANNOT be this close each and every time. MN, NY, etc. They must be playing with the votes to throw these races into the courts for decision by liberal judges. How can this be?????
16 posted on 03/31/2009 9:12:11 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

To be fair the older the absentees the greater the chance they favor Tedisco. Remember, just a few weeks ago Tedisco had a double-digit lead. That became a small lead about 10 or so days ago and a dead-heat now.

Given that the votes will be fairly counted (which is NOT a given), I’d probably rather be Jim Tedisco now than Murphy. We’ll see.


17 posted on 03/31/2009 9:13:39 PM PDT by Norman Bates
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To: FreeReign

Murphy leads by just 59 votes. All we need is to net at least 60 votes out of the 6,000+ absentees. Quite doable.


18 posted on 03/31/2009 9:14:47 PM PDT by Norman Bates
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To: Vigilanteman

The district is steadily turning Dem, they move from the places Dems have ruined to enjoy the relatively better areas...then are ruining them as well.

Many of the Republicans here voted Obama. This is New York.


19 posted on 03/31/2009 9:15:47 PM PDT by soloNYer
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To: napscoordinator

ACORNimusObummeris, must be a disease that has spread all over the US. The disease was brought here by “O”sorus “r” Us now! Only a fearce injection by “TRUE” ConserititusPenicillian voters can cure the plague now known as BORACKHUSSIENOBAMA the illegal Usurper!


20 posted on 03/31/2009 9:22:23 PM PDT by Squat (Deport the illegals now! Turn Home Depot's into the prisons to hold the illegals!.)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

We’ll never know who one, but one thing is for certain: the Democrat will be declared the victor in this one. Republicans just can’t compete with the Democrat recount machine.


21 posted on 03/31/2009 9:26:07 PM PDT by Scutter
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To: Vigilanteman

If the R didn’t win by 20%, consider it a lost cause. The Dims will steal it away.

It is IMPERATIVE that we find a systemic way to kill this capability of the Left or the R’s will never again hold a major office!


22 posted on 03/31/2009 9:31:37 PM PDT by Rembrandt
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To: Scutter

Wow I just don’t get this!! A few months ago I read story after story the Republican party was dead forever. Now when the super rock star Messiah is only two months into his presidency and he CAMPAIGNS for a dem in a blue state it is too close to call and everyone here is acting like it’s over. People we have four years to fight and we are already making huge cracks!!!


23 posted on 03/31/2009 9:33:30 PM PDT by Pacothecat
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To: FreeReign

I am hopeful.


24 posted on 03/31/2009 9:42:43 PM PDT by BAW (I wish I was a dog and Obama was a tree. I would stand real close to him and raise my leg to pee.)
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To: napscoordinator
Good point, it's a sad state of affairs up there though. I'm from that district and still maintain it as my home of residence but am stationed in Japan. After a conversation with my Mother, who still lives there unfortunately, I am even more depressed with the intimidation tactics used to keep conservatives from effectively voicing their opinions. She has been called racist, had her car keyed, shunned from social groups, etc., for not conforming. I did my part, though. Absentee ballot cast a while back, wonder if they'll count it?
25 posted on 03/31/2009 9:47:40 PM PDT by thewitz2
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To: April Lexington
I think Acorn and the Dems are just doing a great job of getting out the college kiddie votes (those people who never should have been given the vote in the first place - thank you Dickie Nixon), manufacturing bogus votes, registering illegal aliens and otherwise manipulating the system.

In addition, as I KEEP SAYING ON THIS FORUM, the GOP is finished as an opposition party. They are incompetent and lack the courage of their convictions.

Mainstream GOP voters deserve better candidates and a better organization than what these entrenched losers are providing for us.

And finally, last of all, we have the globalist BUSH Factor which is helping these Dems. The Bushes have done so much damage to the GOP, conservatism and America that it will take years for any effective opposition to be positioned to replaced the GOP or effectively defeat these communists in the Democrat Party.

26 posted on 03/31/2009 10:01:18 PM PDT by ZULU (Obamanation of Desolation is President. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: ZULU
And finally, last of all, we have the globalist BUSH Factor which is helping these Dems. The Bushes have done so much damage to the GOP, conservatism and America that it will take years for any effective opposition to be positioned to replaced the GOP or effectively defeat these communists in the Democrat Party.

I think GHWB never got over the shock of losing to Reagan in the 1980 primaries. They went along for the ride and waited him out.

27 posted on 03/31/2009 10:03:06 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: ZULU
as I KEEP SAYING ON THIS FORUM, the GOP is finished as an opposition party.

You are not alone....

28 posted on 03/31/2009 10:03:49 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Pacothecat

i would be excited if this was a district in san francisco. not a center-right district where we hold a +70,000 voter registration advantage. steele must go.


29 posted on 03/31/2009 10:03:52 PM PDT by redbloodredstate
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To: soloNYer

That’s what happened to the once great state of New Hampshire, “Live Free or Die” -— so many libs flooded into southern NH to escape Mass., and now they’re busily turning NH into just another Boston suburb.


30 posted on 03/31/2009 10:05:39 PM PDT by Enchante (Of course I want Obama to "fail" in his effort to transform America into a socialist miasma)
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To: Vigilanteman

“A problem with a machine in Saratoga Springs delayed the final reporting from one precinct.”

Yeah right. Is ACORN on the scene yet? I’m sure they’ll straighten this mess out /sarc


31 posted on 03/31/2009 10:06:10 PM PDT by 1035rep ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.")
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To: FreeReign

Top of the hour radio news said only 65 votes separate the two with the D in the lead with about 6,000 absentee to count.


32 posted on 03/31/2009 10:06:15 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Vigilanteman

Yeah. And now that Zerobama moved the Census into Ballerina Boys office, we can be sure there will be no elected Republican’s anywhere ever again.

We’re watching the Republic as we know and love flatline out of existence.


33 posted on 03/31/2009 10:07:26 PM PDT by antonico
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To: FreeReign

Wow, nice turn around.


34 posted on 03/31/2009 10:07:46 PM PDT by 1035rep ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.")
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To: April Lexington
Before we lost Congress in 2006, I was warning that Bush's incompetence on many issues, especially the Border issue was going to destroy the GOP, America and give the Rats control of the Country.

Before we lost the Presidency, I kept warning about the idiocy of that incompetent boob and how it was threatening us with Obama.

And now, all my predictions have come true.

Between the Bush Klan and that idiot McCain, they have singlehandedly given control of America to the Rats - lock, stock and barrel. The Bushes destroyed America by allowing the Communists in the Democrat to take over. I hope to God Almighty America is saved and we NEVER see another Bush or anyone else who thinks like him running as Republican ever again.

35 posted on 03/31/2009 10:08:57 PM PDT by ZULU (Obamanation of Desolation is President. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: redbloodredstate
steele must go.

I'm no big fan of Steele, but I certainly wouldn't blame the result of this election on him.

Before Steele:

Nov. 2008
(D) Gillibrand 62%
(R) Treadwell 38%

After Steele:

Mar. 2009
(D) Murphy 50%
(R) Tedisco 50%

36 posted on 03/31/2009 10:11:08 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Norman Bates
All we need is to net at least 60 votes out of the 6,000+ absentees. Quite doable.

Wrong. If a republican leads by 1 or 2 votes, or by 100 or 200 for that matter, the Democrat wins. Haven't you learned anything?

37 posted on 03/31/2009 10:15:14 PM PDT by fwdude ("...a 'centrist' ... has few principles - and those are negotiable." - Don Feder)
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To: April Lexington

We need to restructure a new party to replace the GOP as soon as possible.

“Leaders” like bonehead Boehner, Grassley, Hatch, Steele, Bush and McCain have sold us down the river. Sycophantic proskenetic traitors in the party like Snowe, Collins, Crist, Spector, Graham and others have gutted its ability to function as a credible opposition party.

Its got to go. Its really beyond repair.

We are conservative sheep turned over to the communist wolves by our Shepherds.


38 posted on 03/31/2009 10:16:20 PM PDT by ZULU (Obamanation of Desolation is President. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: 1035rep
Wow, nice turn around.

The Obama affect after 60 days in office.

39 posted on 03/31/2009 10:19:13 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: FreeReign

Curious, do we know how much effort steele may have put into this election? Maybe he did behind the scene stuff..but RNC only did one ad...about a month ago.

RNCC carried a lot of water on this...many ads

aside.. wonder who came up with Pat Boone for the last minute calls for Tedisco....while the Dims had Barry/Joe


40 posted on 03/31/2009 10:21:35 PM PDT by Hush44
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To: Red Steel

Hopefully it spreads everywhere. The libtards I know aren’t smiling anymore.

3 years, 295 days to go.


41 posted on 03/31/2009 10:23:39 PM PDT by 1035rep ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.")
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To: April Lexington
The Bushes were never good for America or for the Republicans.

Bush I was an incompetent globalist. He was the Vice President Reagan really didn't want. The party big wigs forced him on Ronnie. Bush I’s term was a catastrophe and he ran a miserable campaign against Clinton. It was obvious he didn't really want to win. Barbara Bush is an anti-gun crude loudmouthed dolt.

Bush II is a man of limited intellect and his last term was a catastrophe that anticipated by idiotic moves at the end of his first term.

I hope to God we never see these damn globalists in any position of authority in America again.

Did you know that Bush II’s cum in college was about 76? And that Kerry's cum was even LOWER?!! Bush II FLUNKED one course in college - it must have been basic economics, public speaking or world history. Kerry flunked TWO!!!

No wonder we are in such trouble when we have to choose from idiots like Bush I, Dole, Clinton, Dukakis, Kerry, Gore, McCain and Obama!!

They couldn't run a lemonade stand let alone a country!

42 posted on 03/31/2009 10:25:28 PM PDT by ZULU (Obamanation of Desolation is President. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: 1035rep
3 years, 295 days to go.

It's real bad when we are counting the days on a 4 year clock.

43 posted on 03/31/2009 10:28:09 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Hush44

The National Republican Trust ran many ads for Tedisco as well.


44 posted on 03/31/2009 10:31:30 PM PDT by yongin (The Messiah's economic policy is a Katrina waiting to happen)
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To: ZULU

The GOP fell apart on its collective moderate ideology. The Senate ‘Gang’ and the spending in Congress discouraged the constituency. It had nothing to do with Bush. POTUS was out of mind beginning with the 2006 mid-terms.

The GOP is no better today despite the absence of #43. At what point do we stop blaming Bush for the inadequacies of the other Republicans still circulating in DC?


45 posted on 03/31/2009 10:32:12 PM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: ZULU

Take it easy. The veins are starting to pop out in your forehead.


46 posted on 03/31/2009 10:37:19 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: April Lexington

May have something to do with the fact that the so-called GOP leadership isn’t very strong in leadership or substance.

We have a real leadership vacuum.


47 posted on 03/31/2009 10:37:45 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Incompetence mixed with bad ideology = change for the worst.)
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To: Gene Eric

bttt


48 posted on 03/31/2009 10:39:54 PM PDT by 1035rep ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.")
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To: Gene Eric
We have to realize where we screwed up in the first place to prevent repetition of the error in the future. Political orthodoxy does count.

I agree with you about McCain's gang.

But Bush's mismanagement of Middle Eastern foreign policy, his idiotic plan for missiles in eastern Europe, his trust of Putin, his failure on the Mexican border and with illegal aliens, his sponsorship of the first flawed bail out plan, his economic budgetary screw-ups, the Harriet Miers scam, etc, etc., set the ground work for the failure of the Republicans in 2006 and 2008.

NO MORE BUSHES - EVER!!!

49 posted on 03/31/2009 10:41:50 PM PDT by ZULU (Obamanation of Desolation is President. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: hsalaw
Too late. They ruptured when Obama won.
50 posted on 03/31/2009 10:44:06 PM PDT by ZULU (Obamanation of Desolation is President. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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