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TX Governor's Race: Larry Kilgore (Secessionist) Runs!
Larry Kilgore for Governor 2010 ^ | 2008 | Larry Kilgore

Posted on 04/02/2009 7:02:07 AM PDT by erkyl

Texas Secession - Washington continues to ignore the 10th amendment. Until Texas independence, Washington's mandates on transportation, education, housing, health care and family issues will continue. Texas GOP Platform page 8 and 20:"We support state sovereignty reserved under the Tenth Amendment and oppose mandates beyond the scope of federal authority. We support downsizing of the federal government in order to re-establish states’ rights."

Economy - Washington requires Texans to pay for their corporate welfare bailout schemes. The debt is equal to $175,000 per person. For every dollar sent to Washington from Texans, we get back 94%; while New Mexico gets back 203%. Texas GOP Platform page 23:"Corporate Welfare/Business Subsidies – We oppose all corporate welfare that supports continued inefficient businesses. We encourage our government to allow a free market economy to prevail both domestically and internationally."

National Security, Immigration and Trade Agreements are inseparably linked - Washington refuses to protect Texas from illegal foreign invaders. Many Texans are upset about NAFTA, WTO, SPP and other international agreements that Washington has gotten us into. North American Union is coming unless we act. Texas GOP Platform page 23:"We strongly oppose and call on Federal and State officials to place high priority on the withdrawal of the United States from the Security and Prosperity Partnership and the formation of the North American Union."

Education - Washington & Austin usurps the authority of local school districts. While spending $75B to control local education. Texas GOP Platform page 8 and 16: "We call for abolition of the U. S. Department of Education and prohibition of transfer of any of its functions to any other agency. Abolish the School Property tax. District superintendents and their employees should be made solely accountable to their locally elected boards."

Health and Human Services - The $53B spending by this Texas government agency drives up health care cost for the rest of us. Texas GOP Platform page 8 and 15: "Reduce the indigent healthcare burden for counties and local government. Free market principles and competition shall be encouraged in health care."

Abortion - Washington usurped Texas sovereignty in the Roe v. Wade decision. Texas GOP Platform page 8: "Life begins at the moment of fertilization and ends at the point of natural death."

War on Poverty - Since 1965 the U.S. government has spent more than $11 trillion fighting poverty without success. Texas GOP Platform page 15: "Welfare Reform - The current system encourages dependency on government and robs individuals and generations of healthy motivation and self respect."

War on Drugs and Alcohol - Law Enforcement Against Prohibition: "The War on Drugs has cost taxpayers over a trillion dollars, we are approaching 40 million arrests for nonviolent drug offenses." County governments in Texas should determine the drug and alcohol policy not Washington. Texas GOP Platform page 8: "We understand most crime is local, and the states, reserve law enforcement authority under the Tenth Amendment."

Texas Military Forces - Texas Military Forces have be conscripted by Washington to fight undeclared wars. Texans need these volunteers in Texas to protect Texas.Texas GOP Platform page 8 and 15: "We charge the President to cancel the state of national emergency and charge Congress to repeal the War Powers Act and end our declared state of emergency. Never deploying the military except against invasion or threat to our vital interests."

Trans Texas Corridor - Rick Perry continues to support the TTC thus ignoring the people of Texas. Criticisms include the high cost, environmental damage and property confiscation. Texas GOP Platform page 23: "We emphatically oppose the Trans-Texas Corridor in any form or manner. We call for full investigation of any public officials authorizing any form of eminent domain for the Trans-Texas Corridor and foreign funding."


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: governor; hutchison; perry; texas
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Maybe we should give this guy some consideration. Does anyone know anything about him? He's from Amarillo.
1 posted on 04/02/2009 7:02:07 AM PDT by erkyl
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To: Jedidah; Red6; Larry - Moe and Curly; BuckeyeTexan; Shady Ray; L,TOWM; mathluv; nametrader; ...

DFW Freeper ping


2 posted on 04/02/2009 7:04:37 AM PDT by erkyl (We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office --Aesop (~550 BC))
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To: erkyl

If Texas ever divides into five states, as it can under the terms of statehood, I would opt for the state of North Texas, the most conservative part of the state.


3 posted on 04/02/2009 7:05:28 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: erkyl

Please put me on the ping list.....

another yankee with a U-haul and proud to be living in TX


4 posted on 04/02/2009 7:06:50 AM PDT by Kimmers (Working hard so Obamas friends don't have to)
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To: erkyl
War on Poverty - Since 1965 the U.S. government has spent more than $11 trillion fighting poverty without success.

We must stop using the term "War on Poverty". Instead we sill use the term, "Subsidization of Indigent Americans"......................

5 posted on 04/02/2009 7:12:22 AM PDT by Red Badger (If Keynesian economics worked, Zimbabwe would be a superpower.......................)
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To: erkyl

Unless someone can stop the messiah somehow, I will move to the first state that secedes.


6 posted on 04/02/2009 7:15:22 AM PDT by Vaquero ( "an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: erkyl

essentially a third party candidate? it seems these days the democrats stay united and the republicans are easily split with a few throw away candidates.


7 posted on 04/02/2009 7:15:38 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Vaquero

secession will be the only salvation for liberty

I’m with you - moving to the first state that secedes.


8 posted on 04/02/2009 7:17:33 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: MrB

What if it’s California? LOL


9 posted on 04/02/2009 7:18:05 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: Red Badger

“forced underwriting of poor choices”


10 posted on 04/02/2009 7:18:07 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: erkyl

I know he is a regular on the ballot, running for a major position (Senate or governor) almost every election cycle. I can’t get to his website here (blocked as Militant & Extremism), however, I recall he is pretty much a Chuck Baldwin type, thinks the War in Iraq was illegal and ‘created’ to enrich folks that pulled the president’s strings (the usual charge..)


11 posted on 04/02/2009 7:19:13 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: ConservativeMan55

If it’s a ideologically questionable state,
then I’d “wait and see” what form of gov’t they start with.

Me, I’m in favor of
the Constitution and the Bill of Rights,
erasure of all federal laws (start over),
and a lifetime ban on anyone who has already served in the Federal Government.


12 posted on 04/02/2009 7:20:29 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: Vaquero

The Weather Underground thanks you for your compliance with their plans. Divide the usa up.


13 posted on 04/02/2009 7:21:36 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: erkyl

He got 226,000 (18%) of the votes in the 08 Republican Senate primary against Cornyn. Maybe we should try to get him to speak at one of our Tea Parties.


14 posted on 04/02/2009 7:22:21 AM PDT by erkyl (We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office --Aesop (~550 BC))
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To: ConservativeMan55

The only way that would happen is to form Aztlan or “reunify” with Mexico. CA is completely dependent on money from DC now and their Statehouse knows it — a vote to secede would be a non-starter in Suckramento.


15 posted on 04/02/2009 7:22:22 AM PDT by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat)
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To: erkyl

I met him briefly at the Ft Worth Tea Party. He was passing out Texas flags. Seemed like a sincere, nice guy. Not sure he’s the guy to lead a secession movement though.


16 posted on 04/02/2009 7:25:04 AM PDT by Pantera
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To: longtermmemmory

we were barely the US under Bush.

we are more leftist than Russia, under the messiah and I don’t recognise America anymore, at least in the population centers.

either move to a secessionist state, or fight a war....or do both, and that has been done before.

right now I have my ear to the ground and will play it as it comes.....

the Weather Underground be damned. we have more guns than them.


17 posted on 04/02/2009 7:25:51 AM PDT by Vaquero ( "an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: erkyl

I went to his facebook page and found this information about secession that wasn’t on his webpage:

What steps will Texas take to become an independent nation? Conduct a referendum similar to the Puerto Rico Democracy Act of 2007. The Texas Legislature will direct the Texas Elections Commission to conduct a plebiscite in Texas on the question of its status and relationship with the United States. Requiring the ballot to provide for voters to choose: (1) independence; or (2) to continue the present status and relationship. Afterwards Texas will send a “Request for Texas Independence” to Washington. The United States will agree and send ambassadors to Texas helping to facilitate a peaceful separation between our two nations. There is no need to fight.

How do the vast resources of Texas compare that of other independent nations? Texas has 23,507,783 people; 11% larger than Australia. 79% of the nations have populations smaller than Texas. Our GDP is $1,065,891,000,000; 32% larger than Australia. 93% of the nations have a GDP smaller than Texas. Texas annual oil production is 393,000,000 barrels; 90% of the nations produce less oil than Texas. Texas annual gas production is 5613039 MMcf; 93% of the nations produce less gas than Texas.

Will Texas manage and collect revenues on oil in the 14 Million acres of the Western Gulf of Mexico? Yes. Texas will abide by the current Delimitation Treaty with Mexico and negotiate a treaty with the U.S.

Will other states be able to protect themselves without the massive military strength of Texas? Yes, Texas does provide the largest contingent of troops for the U.S. war machine. However Texas and the other seceding states can negotiate a peaceful transition of personnel and equipment so that all can be protected. Just as the U.S.S.R. did in 1989 when their republics seceded.

Does the U.S. allow dual citizenship? Yes.

Can I be Texas resident without Texas citizenship? If you prefer Texas residency instead of Texas citizenship that is ok. The Texas legislature will design a “lawful permanent residence” procedure. Please see: Benefits & services for U.S. citizens residing in Texas.

What about my Social Security check? You can continue to receive your SSA payments while living outside the U.S.

What about my military retirement Check? You can continue to receive your military retirement payments while living outside the U.S.

Will people be free of the 35% income tax, and the 15.3% Social Security tax, while working in Texas? Yes!!! Texans don’t like socialism.

Questions that will need to be addressed in the Texas Constitution, Texas Statutes, or local statutes: How will someone become a Texas Citizen? - Will Texas sanction dual citizenship? - Will Texas fix the broken borders? - Will Texas government, local governments, or the free market pay for education, health and human service, etc.? - Will Texas print its own currency?


18 posted on 04/02/2009 7:28:46 AM PDT by erkyl (We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office --Aesop (~550 BC))
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To: Vaquero

La Raza is just waiting.


19 posted on 04/02/2009 7:32:50 AM PDT by sunny48
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To: erkyl

What does this guy do for a day to day living other than promote secession, run for political office and take donations from the public? Do you know? He lives in Mansfield Texas which is on US Hwy 287 south of Fort Worth/Dallas. He doesn’t give much info about his personal life, education, jobs, etc.


20 posted on 04/02/2009 7:37:37 AM PDT by deport
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Does anyone know anything about him? He's from Amarillo.

Better a secessionist from Amarillo than an a**hole from El Paso.

21 posted on 04/02/2009 7:38:44 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: erkyl

Hes a libertarian....dont stand a chance.


22 posted on 04/02/2009 7:40:47 AM PDT by DainBramage
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To: erkyl
What if Texas and any other states that have declared their sovreignty just sent money to DC only for what the constitution mandates the federal government is supposed to do - make money (Lord knows they surely know how to do that), guard the borders (the border states should subtract money for the federal government's failure to do that), and deliver the mail.

Now that would send a message to Washington!

23 posted on 04/02/2009 7:42:08 AM PDT by texgal (end no-fault divorce laws return DUE PROCESS & EQUAL PROTECTION to ALL citizens))
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To: erkyl

never heard of him


24 posted on 04/02/2009 7:43:48 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: DainBramage

I dunno...with the rampant spending spree in Washington in less than 3 months, imagine where this country will be for the 2010 race? I think people may be ready for some real CHANGE, and this guy might actually have a chance with the pendulum swinging back. Ron Paul is gaining in credibility because so much of what he said would happen is happening.

Let’s not write him off and go down the same old same old road without even seeing if a candidate like this could have legs.


25 posted on 04/02/2009 7:43:50 AM PDT by erkyl (We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office --Aesop (~550 BC))
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To: texgal

Aren’t they supposed to provide for the military, too?


26 posted on 04/02/2009 7:44:52 AM PDT by erkyl (We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office --Aesop (~550 BC))
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To: erkyl

Are you sure he’s not from Corsicana? That’s where the Collin Street Bakery is located...


27 posted on 04/02/2009 7:50:32 AM PDT by Poe White Trash
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To: erkyl

I would say that if Washington thought this was going to actually happen then I would think they would do something preemptive like sealing off the Texas capitol, not allowing anyone to enter and setting up a police state organization.

Martial law will be in effect, dusk to dawn curfews, road blocks and checkpoints and all stations TV and radio taken over by the Federal Government.

Protesters and dissenters will be facing the Army and will be detained immediately. And door to door searches will be made for weapons.

Question is Texas, do you have a defensive plan to counter this scenario? An alternate site for the governor? Can you prevent the Feds from coming into the state?

Is your militia ready?


28 posted on 04/02/2009 7:53:50 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: kittymyrib

Would Athens be considered in the North?


29 posted on 04/02/2009 7:56:58 AM PDT by alarm rider ("We laugh at honor, and are shocked to find traitors in our midst" C.S. Lewis)
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To: DainBramage

He may be a libertarian but his quoting of the Texas GOP Platform which states that life begins at the moment of fertilization doesn’t sound libertarian. Possibly he’s just quoting that position to strengthen his state’s rights argument.

Being a Texan and having a very independent streak I do like a lot of what he says given the direction Washington is headed.


30 posted on 04/02/2009 8:01:22 AM PDT by bereanway (Sarah get your gun)
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To: bereanway

I believe he is one of the few libertarians who understands that pro-life is the only truly libertarian point of view. We are endowed by our creator with certain unalienable rights... from conception. The choice of abortion is no more liberetarian than the choice of raping ones neighbor. It is crucial to defeat of Leftism that the libertarians adopt this stance. Without it the schism of the Right is guaranteed between libertarians and social conservatives.


31 posted on 04/02/2009 8:05:51 AM PDT by azcap (Who is John Galt ? www.conservativeshirts.com)
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To: sunny48

Would Houston, Austin, Crockett, Travis, Bowie be afraid of La Raza?

Please.


32 posted on 04/02/2009 8:07:58 AM PDT by Vaquero ( "an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: sunny48
La Raza is just waiting.

For what? They want a race war in Texas? BAD IDEA. We've fought Mexicans before.

33 posted on 04/02/2009 8:08:34 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (01-20-2009 : The end of the PAX AMERICANA.)
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To: MeekOneGOP; ValerieTexas; txhurl; basil; SwinneySwitch; austinaero; lormand; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; ..

TX Secessionist for Gov ping. I am so ready for this.


35 posted on 04/02/2009 8:16:29 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (It took almost 250 years to make the USA great and 30 days for "The Failure" BO to tear it down.)
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To: azcap

I’m donating money to this guy even though I live in Philly. I pray to God for a successful secession in my lifetime. The libtards been jubilant over every soldier’s death for years now. Not worth debating and not worth living with.


36 posted on 04/02/2009 8:20:16 AM PDT by ccruse456
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To: SonOfPyrodex

I am not a Texan, I have been in Texas a few times....
...I’m a NewYawker, who will fight for liberty no mater where that front pops up.

as the majority here are @$$wipes, It will have to be somewhere other than my homestate (for now)...and it might as well be Texas than anywhere. Youseguys were a nation before you wuz a state.


38 posted on 04/02/2009 8:27:08 AM PDT by Vaquero ( "an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: SonOfPyrodex

BTTT


40 posted on 04/02/2009 8:40:39 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: erkyl

Sounds good to me... with that platform he can’t be a gun grabber.


41 posted on 04/02/2009 8:41:56 AM PDT by gitmogrunt (Respect Islam? ..Impossible.......Genocidal Islam respects no one.)
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To: erkyl

Being from Amarillo is, in the eyes of most other Texans, anything BUT a recommendation.

The only worse Texas town to be from is El Paso.

** ducking and covering **


42 posted on 04/02/2009 8:43:19 AM PDT by Xenalyte (Anything is possible when you don't understand how anything happens.)
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To: Alter Kaker

Oooooh, you beat me to it! Nicely played.


43 posted on 04/02/2009 8:44:11 AM PDT by Xenalyte (Anything is possible when you don't understand how anything happens.)
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44 posted on 04/02/2009 8:45:42 AM PDT by Xenalyte (Anything is possible when you don't understand how anything happens.)
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To: kittymyrib
"ever divides into five states"

We will never break up the Republic Of Texas. If anything, we'll take back eastern Colorado & New Mexico back to the Rio Grande.

45 posted on 04/02/2009 8:47:07 AM PDT by Deaf Smith
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To: erkyl

Met him at a Glenn Beck 912 Project meetup. You don’t want to follow him.


46 posted on 04/02/2009 9:08:00 AM PDT by crosstimbers
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To: Vaquero

I will go with you.


47 posted on 04/02/2009 9:08:03 AM PDT by Gan Gan
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To: Red Badger
""Subsidization of Indigent Americans"...................... "

Actually, that's not quite right- Forty million of them are ILLEGAL ALIENS.

48 posted on 04/02/2009 9:13:29 AM PDT by matthew fuller (The right response to the non-problem of global warming is to have the courage to do nothing)
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To: Xenalyte

Wow! You found a picture of him, too. That was fast.


49 posted on 04/02/2009 9:16:57 AM PDT by Poe White Trash
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To: crosstimbers

please elaborate...


50 posted on 04/02/2009 12:09:41 PM PDT by erkyl (We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office --Aesop (~550 BC))
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