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Census Bureau: We’ll Work with ‘Community Organizations’ to Count All Illegal Aliens in 2010
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Posted on 04/02/2009 7:15:53 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Census Bureau: We’ll Work with ‘Community Organizations’ to Count All Illegal Aliens in 2010 Thursday, April 02, 2009 By Nicholas Ballasy, Video Reporter

(CNSNews.com) - The acting director of the U.S. Census Bureau, Thomas Mesenbourg, told CNSNews.com that the bureau intends to work with community organizations to make sure every illegal alien in the United States is counted in the 2010 Census.

The Census is used to apportion the seats in the U.S. House of Representative. There are 435 House seats that are divided among the states in proportion to their population, which is determined by the decennial census. States with more people get more seats in the U.S. House.

This means that a state harboring more illegal aliens can gain more House seats as long as the Census Bureau finds the illegal aliens and counts them. This also means that the illegal alien population resident in the United States during a census year has the potential to alter the regional and philosophical balance of power in Congress.

Mesenbourg’s comments were made after a press conference on Wednesday where Commerce Secretary Gary Locke joined several interest groups, including Univision, the National Council of La Raza, the League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC) and the National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials (NALEO) to talk about efforts to ensure a full count of Latinos in the 2010 Census.

When asked whether he intended to maximize the count of illegal aliens in next year’s census, Mesenburg said: “Our job is to count everyone that resides in the U.S.--count them once. So, certainly that’s our goal to count every individual, every resident whether they’re documented, undocumented, whether they are citizens or non-citizens.”

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1 posted on 04/02/2009 7:15:53 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

NO REPRESENTATION
WITHOUT NATURALIZATION!


2 posted on 04/02/2009 7:16:29 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: Sub-Driver

If you can count them, why can’t you send them home?


3 posted on 04/02/2009 7:17:15 AM PDT by MantillaMilitant
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To: Sub-Driver

...your tax money hard at work


4 posted on 04/02/2009 7:17:23 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Sub-Driver

This is the sort of sh!t that makes my head feel like it will explode.
Find them and toss their asses back over the fence.


5 posted on 04/02/2009 7:20:20 AM PDT by AirForceMom (Locked and loaded, and sharpening wooden stakes.)
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To: Sub-Driver

No doubt census takers with selective vision. Some people are invisible, other people appear in duplicate or triplicate. Do mirror images count?


6 posted on 04/02/2009 7:20:20 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Guys. If this comes to pass, the elections are already over, the invasion and reconquista of the US by mexicans is complete, and the Republic is dead.

Fight it now or die.
The time is up.


7 posted on 04/02/2009 7:20:31 AM PDT by bill1952 (Power is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: Sub-Driver

Well, TX and CA and AZ ought to pick up about a dozen more congressional seats then. If the rust belt states think this will benefit them, they are dead wrong.


8 posted on 04/02/2009 7:24:14 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: bill1952

Love that Irish rebel tune... “By the Risin’ of the Moon.” Somehow the words just seem appropriate for today’s America:

And come, tell me Sean O’Farrell, tell me why you hurry so?
“Hush a bhuachaill[1], hush and listen”, and his cheeks were all aglow,
“I bear orders from the captain:- get you ready quick and soon
For the pikes must be together at the rising of the moon”
At the rising of the moon, at the rising of the moon,

For the pikes must be together at the rising of the moon

“And come tell me Sean O’Farrell where the gath’rin is to be?”
“In the old spot by the river, quite well known to you and me.
One more word for signal token:- whistle out the marchin’ tune,
With your pike upon your shoulder, at the rising of the moon.”
At the rising of the moon, at the rising of the moon
With your pike upon your shoulder, at the rising of the moon.

Out from many a mud wall cabin eyes were watching through the night,
Many a manly heart was beatin, for the blessed morning light.
Murmurs ran along the valleys to the banshee’s lonely croon
And a thousand pikes were flashing by the rising of the moon.
By the rising of the moon, by the rising of the moon.
And a thousand pikes were flashing by the rising of the moon. At the rising of the moon...

All along that singing river that black mass of men was seen,
High above their shining weapons flew their own beloved green.
“Death to every foe and traitor! Whistle out the marching tune.”
And hurrah my boys for freedom; ‘tis the rising of the moon”.
Tis the rising of the moon, tis the rising of the moon
And hurrah my boys for freedom; ‘Tis the rising of the moon”.

Well they fought for poor old Ireland, and full bitter was their fate,
Oh what glorious pride and sorrow, fills the name of ninety-eight!
Yet, thank God, e’en still are beating hearts in manhood burning noon,
Who would follow in their footsteps, at the risin’ of the moon
By the rising of the moon, By the rising of the moon
Who would follow in their footsteps, at the risin’ of the moon.


9 posted on 04/02/2009 7:24:24 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Meanwhile, the sheeple graze mindlessly while awaiting slaughter at Hope and Change Ranch)
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To: Sub-Driver

The unemployment rate is at 9 percent and climbing, while our friendly neighborhood organizations help the 0bama administration stab us in the back. Destroy America at any cost, is the platform of the Democratic Party.


10 posted on 04/02/2009 7:26:15 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Sub-Driver

we will work with communist organizations


11 posted on 04/02/2009 7:28:30 AM PDT by devistate one four (Cw II on the way! Stand by. TET68)
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To: Sub-Driver

How to overrun a country and take it over, without firing a shot — with the cooperation and aid of said country’s institutions.


12 posted on 04/02/2009 7:28:48 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Sub-Driver

Ok, count them so we know how many buses to get to SHIP THEM OUT.


13 posted on 04/02/2009 7:31:00 AM PDT by Danae (Amerikan Unity My Ass)
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To: MantillaMilitant

Ask your intelligent questions now! Soon there will be a bounty for turning people like you in to the indoctrination office.


14 posted on 04/02/2009 7:33:18 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (American Revolution II -- overdue.)
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To: Sub-Driver

This action will be the end of the republic.


15 posted on 04/02/2009 7:35:42 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: bill1952

Have the fish count them.
I read here at FR an article that Fish can Count.


16 posted on 04/02/2009 7:36:28 AM PDT by Global2010 (About Catholics Come HomeAddress:http://www.catholicscomehome.org/about-us.phtml)
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To: Sub-Driver

WTF???

The blood of patriots and tyrants, that is all that will save this nation at this point.


17 posted on 04/02/2009 7:37:37 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: MantillaMilitant
If you can count them, why can’t you send them home?

It's much easier for them to vote from here!
18 posted on 04/02/2009 7:37:44 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee (For the sake of our Republic....RAISE HOLY HELL!)
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To: HamiltonJay

Something’s....gotta......give.
Right now it’s a ten-pound bag of crap in a five-pound bag,and the seams are straining. It won’t be long.


19 posted on 04/02/2009 7:39:17 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee (For the sake of our Republic....RAISE HOLY HELL!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Why do we need to count illegal aliens. SUPPOSEDLY, they are not allowed to vote. This country is so corrupt! “Change” really sucks!


20 posted on 04/02/2009 7:40:07 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Say goodbye to "BIG business" and hello to BIG, BIG government!)
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To: Sub-Driver

How bold do you have to be to admit this? I wonder if this is taken out of context or something. Oh trust me I know it happened in past census’, but normally it is done sneakily. Now they just out and out say they are going to do this. It does not pass the smell test.


21 posted on 04/02/2009 7:41:56 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Sub-Driver

Let’s see, I could give them the number for Mexicans right now...oh about 50 to 60 million.


22 posted on 04/02/2009 7:43:26 AM PDT by jetson
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To: Sub-Driver

I think this is lecture 17 in Fraud 101.


23 posted on 04/02/2009 7:44:13 AM PDT by rod1
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To: Sub-Driver
Non-citizens aren't supposed to be counted by the census or represented in Congress.

Of course, this is the Democrats, the party whose antecedents saw to it that 3/5 of all slaves were counted to increase their masters' clout in Congress. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

24 posted on 04/02/2009 7:44:15 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Hinneh 'Anokhi sholeach lakhem 'et 'Eliyyah HaNavi'; lifney bo' Yom HaShem HaGadol veHaNora'.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Maybe it’s time to secede from the Union. This move simply decreases the represenative power of citizens.


25 posted on 04/02/2009 7:47:06 AM PDT by BeckB
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To: Sub-Driver; All

26 posted on 04/02/2009 7:47:08 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see a REAL C.O.L.B. BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Sub-Driver
Census Bureau: We’ll Work with ‘Community Organizations’ to Count All Illegal Aliens in 2010

So we'll know how many bus tickets we'll need to send them home?

27 posted on 04/02/2009 7:48:09 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Everyone in the country on vacation should be counted as well then.


28 posted on 04/02/2009 7:49:54 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: HamiltonJay
The blood of patriots and tyrants, that is all that will save this nation at this point.

“God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion.
The people cannot be all, and always, well informed.
The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive.
If they remain quiet under such misconceptions,it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ...

And what country can preserve its liberties, if it’s rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance?

Let them take arms.
The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them.
What signify a few lives lost in a century or two?

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”

29 posted on 04/02/2009 7:53:17 AM PDT by bill1952 (Power is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Dear God - there must be SOME way to stop this!


30 posted on 04/02/2009 7:55:25 AM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Abraham Lincoln would have let Berkeley leave the Union without a fight)
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To: Sub-Driver

I truly didn’t understand how the census could be used to apportion votes in this manner, based on illegal aliens, until I went to the Census Bureau site and saw this: “The fundamental reason for conducting the decennial census of the United States is to apportion the members of the House of Representatives among the 50 states. A state’s resident population consists of those persons ‘usually resident’ in that state (where they live and sleep most of the time). A state’s apportionment population is the sum of its resident population and a count of overseas U.S. military and federal civilian employees (and their dependents living with them) allocated to the state, as reported by the employing federal agencies.”

This is really frightening. I consider myself up on politics (and many other subjects), but I really had no idea that illegal aliens could dilute my vote in this manner.

This is just disgusting. There are just too many people with no skin in the game, and I can understand all of the recent calls to base voting rights on something like property ownership, income, or something tangible. That’s why the founding fathers required property ownership—they understood that giving the vote to those with nothing at stake would result in perverse outcomes.

That will turn the house forever dhimmicrat, and I predict that, within 10 years or so, you may begin to see calls to get rid of the Senate (which will be seen as impeding “progress,”) or to make it more ceremonial, since it may not be dhimmicrat enough to muster 60 votes for cloture. I’m truly afraid for this country.


31 posted on 04/02/2009 8:01:21 AM PDT by Mikie (McCain is not Bush 3, but 0bama is definitely Carter 2)
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To: Sub-Driver; LS; Congressman Billybob

Does anyone know the history (I assume SCOTUS) behind apportioning Congressional Districts using alien counts in the formula?


32 posted on 04/02/2009 8:08:46 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (May God save America from its government; this is no time for Obamateurs. Emmanuel = Haldeman?)
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To: ScottinVA

Good song! I have it on CD of Irish rebel songs.


33 posted on 04/02/2009 8:09:07 AM PDT by avacado (Impeach the Teleprompter!!!)
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To: Sub-Driver
this census is doomed to be the most political, most inaccurate census in the history of the nation.
34 posted on 04/02/2009 8:27:27 AM PDT by elpadre (nation)
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To: MrB

I don’t think they will be included in the state population for the purpose of defining political boundaries.

I think this is a good thing. Maybe when people realize how many illegals are in this country, they will get off their as* and do something about it. Right now, they can say, well there aren’t that many, and it doesn’t affect me.


35 posted on 04/02/2009 8:37:49 AM PDT by ga medic
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To: ga medic

Oh, but you know how the left thinks,

that these people deserve to be here just as much as you or I do, that it was just a geographical accident that we’re born here, and we need to equalize that accident of circumstances pro-actively, etc, etc, etc.


36 posted on 04/02/2009 8:39:28 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: MrB

Yeah, that is very true. However, most only say that when talking about the people that mow their yards, or clean their houses. People they know personally.

When the census reports that there are 25 million or more, especially when our economy is crashing, at least a few of them may reconsider their previous ideas. Even if half of the 25 million work, that is 12,500,000 jobs, which would be pretty helpful in this economy.


37 posted on 04/02/2009 8:46:36 AM PDT by ga medic
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To: Sub-Driver
This means that a state harboring more illegal aliens can gain more House seats

Shouldn't they only count for 3/5th of a vote?

This is just getting more and more scary. When will we wake up?

I have an idea. If the government will not stop illegal immigration, and they will count illegals and give representatives based on how many you have, all red states should invite unlimited immigration from Australia, Western Europe, Japan, Hong Kong, Singapore and anywhere else where there are educated people who are productive. They want to bring in 20 million Mexicans; fine, we'll get 20 million Poles, Lithuanians, British expats, Aussies, frustrated Italians, and so on. If we need cheap labor, we bring in Filipinos and Indians.

These groups will work 20 hours a day, start businesses, employ people, teach their children independence and family values, and will tend to vote conservative. They can pull up to ports in Mississippi, Texas and South Carolina in huge ocean liners, they can cross to Arizona from Mexico and spread into Nevada, Idaho and Utah, they can come from Canada into Wyoming and North Dakota. We can create whole factories for them, just like there are animal processing plants throughout Arkansas, Iowa, Kansas and Missouri filled with illegals who are never bothered by ICE, we can build semiconductor plants in Montana for these people to work at.

Enough is enough.

38 posted on 04/02/2009 8:49:03 AM PDT by Defiant (One Big-Ass Mistake, America!!)
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To: Sub-Driver
I just sent faxes to both of my Senators on this issue.

To the male Senator, I closed my letter with the question,

"Where are your TESTICLES?"
39 posted on 04/02/2009 8:57:23 AM PDT by HotLead61 (Death as a Free Man is much preferred to "life" as a slave)
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To: Sub-Driver; SumProVita; HardStarboard; BradyLS; Ernest_at_the_Beach; dervish; Twotone; ...

The List, ping


40 posted on 04/02/2009 9:08:39 AM PDT by Nachum (the complete list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Sub-Driver

Isn’t that what ICE is for?


41 posted on 04/02/2009 9:16:22 AM PDT by 444Flyer (Don't beLIEve Obama.............................Never give up, never give in, never give out!)
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To: HotLead61

ROTFL! Goodonya!


42 posted on 04/02/2009 9:17:05 AM PDT by 444Flyer (Don't beLIEve Obama.............................Never give up, never give in, never give out!)
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To: musicman

Obama voters get counted twice.


43 posted on 04/02/2009 9:36:46 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Sub-Driver; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

Ping!


44 posted on 04/02/2009 12:29:20 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Support Our Troops ~ www.AmericaSupportsYou.mil ~)
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To: Sub-Driver

They want to play that game? Ok, the size of my two member household is expected to increase by at least 6 in early 2010 when the ACORN census goons come around. Since they won’t be allowed into my house to ask their questions, they’ll just have to take my word for it.


45 posted on 04/02/2009 12:44:29 PM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
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To: bamahead; MeekOneGOP

Ping


46 posted on 04/02/2009 12:46:03 PM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
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To: Sub-Driver

Sigh, another census to sit out since they are just going to cook the books again.


47 posted on 04/02/2009 1:20:35 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Pres Obama just spent $150million of the $160million in returned AIG bonuses on a trip to England.)
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To: EdReform
We’ll Work with ‘Community Organizations’ ACORN to Triple Count All Illegal Aliens in 2010

Fixed.
48 posted on 04/02/2009 1:27:20 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: kittymyrib
Well, TX and CA and AZ ought to pick up about a dozen more congressional seats then.

Remember who is pulling the strings. Do the leftists in charge want the numbers to create new representatives for Texas? Only if they can counteract it by massive voter fraud there. I thin it's safe to say that Cal. will get more seats though.

49 posted on 04/02/2009 2:48:40 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Obama's multi- trillion dollar agenda would be a "man caused disaster")
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To: Tennessee Nana; calcowgirl; ZULU; AuntB; DoughtyOne

Illegal alien outrage ping


50 posted on 04/02/2009 3:05:07 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Obama's multi- trillion dollar agenda would be a "man caused disaster")
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