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Time to settle the “flying saucers” question.....
Ria Novosti ^ | April 2nd, 2009

Posted on 04/02/2009 9:08:54 AM PDT by TaraP

MOSCOW. (Andrei Kislyakov, for RIA Novosti) - So do UFOs with little green men inside exist or not? CNN supposedly filmed a UFO moving at a great speed from the right to the left during the inauguration of President Barack Obama. (But those who watched the replay say it was a bird.)

After that, former President Clinton's White House Chief John Podesta, now one of Obama's closest associates, demanded that the thick UFO files be made public.

The number of UFO sightings has dramatically increased in recent times. According to Britain's Ministry of Defense, there were supposedly 285 UFO sightings in the UK in 2008, double the figure for 2007, when the number of alleged UFO sightings was reckoned at 137. (UFOs attacking Ukraine. Video UFO seen over Moscow during Russia - Netherlands match.

The defense departments of the United States and the Soviet Union scrupulously registered alleged sightings of UFOs for decades. American ufologists say that the U.S. authorities were quite serious about the UFO question in the 1940s through 1960s.

Project Blue Book, terminated in 1969, had two goals: to determine if UFOs were a threat to national security, and to scientifically analyze UFO-related data.

The USAF concluded that UFOs are not a threat to national security. Paradoxically, the military still refuse to provide information about UFOs for security reasons.

Ufologists insist that the USAF must give them access to certain documents, such as Project Moon Dust and Project Blue Fly.

Project Moon Dust was started in 1953, ostensibly to recover "returning space debris." Operation Blue Fly was launched to facilitate expeditious delivery to Foreign Technology Division of moon dust and other items of great technological intelligence interest. It is assumed that they were in fact connected with UFOs.

According to ufologists, the U.S. military also have kept the bodies of extraterrestrials who died in spaceship crashes over the United States.

The most widely known of such episodes, the Roswell Incident, took place in New Mexico on July 2, 1947, when an object crash-landed on a ranch approximately 75 miles northwest of Roswell, leaving a large field of debris.

The local air base at Roswell investigated the incident and announced that they had recovered a "flying disk." In fact, the crash was seen by a number of people. There were allegedly alien bodies found in the disk, but the film showing their autopsy was later denounced as a fraud.

If UFOs existed and military units were investigating them, there should also be a place for their deployment. This is Area 51, also known as Groom Lake, a secret military facility about 90 miles north of Las Vegas. At the center of it there is a large air base the government will not discuss about. The Roswell story speaks of alien bodies and wreckage being taken to a "Hangar 18" in Area 51.

Space photographs of the area show a huge landing strip crisscrossing the area and strange circles that can be interpreted as traces of landing of huge "flying saucers." Ufologists are convinced that this is so.

As President, George W. Bush moved Area 51 from the Nevada jurisdiction to that of the Pentagon and Washington. Slightly more than 10 years ago, civilian aircraft were prohibited to fly over the area.

The archives of the former Soviet Union are filled to capacity with data about contacts with extraterrestrials. They contain records of over 20,000 UFO sightings. The Academy of Sciences and the Defense Ministry both undertook investigations under the secret project names of Setka, Galaktika and Gorizont.

It is even said that "competent agencies," meaning the secret services, established contact with aliens and waited for their arrival to Earth. The media is now writing about a team of General Staff officers and academicians waiting for the arrival of an UFO in the Kyzylkum desert in June 1991.

Clearly, humans will always strive to search for beings of humanoid form in the Universe. But it is also apparent that apart from tall tales about "little green men" there are also facts that logically point to the presence of alien intelligence on the Earth.

In this case, maybe the time has come for the U.S. and Russian authorities to declassify information on unidentified flying objects and their masters?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: clintonista; kookfringe; kooks; moonbat; newagemorons; obamadministration; podesta; ufo
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1 posted on 04/02/2009 9:08:55 AM PDT by TaraP
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To: TaraP

The only solid proof I know of for UFO’s is the existence of Al Gore.


2 posted on 04/02/2009 9:10:08 AM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: Quix; Las Vegas Dave; topcat54; Marysecretary; Star Traveler

Ping..


3 posted on 04/02/2009 9:10:12 AM PDT by TaraP (The RAPTURE: Separation of Church and State)
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To: TaraP

BTTT


4 posted on 04/02/2009 9:11:18 AM PDT by unkus
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To: TaraP

The ramifications of revealing any evidence of visitation, technical assistance, or cooperation would destroy governmental and society controls. There would be chaos.


5 posted on 04/02/2009 9:13:14 AM PDT by Pistolshot (The Soap-box, The Ballot-box, The Jury-box, And The Cartridge-Box ...we are past 2 of them.)
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To: TaraP

THANKS.

I forget, did I send you the END TIMES PING LISTS, YET?


6 posted on 04/02/2009 9:13:36 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Always Right
I think Geithner is a Alien or half reptile
7 posted on 04/02/2009 9:14:06 AM PDT by TaraP (The RAPTURE: Separation of Church and State)
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To: TaraP

“CNN supposedly filmed a UFO moving at a great speed from the right to the left during the inauguration of President Barack Obama. (But those who watched the replay say it was a bird.)

After that, former President Clinton’s White House Chief John Podesta, now one of Obama’s closest associates, demanded that the thick UFO files be made public. “

That is fascinating. I never heard that reported by our media, and wondered what happened after this incident.

Hard to be so skeptical after reporting like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh5IKmWDmHk

I think denial has been such a safe place, people are afraid to come out.


8 posted on 04/02/2009 9:14:15 AM PDT by silverleaf (Freedom's just another word for "nothing left to lose")
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To: Always Right; TaraP
The only solid proof I know of for UFO’s is the existence of Al Gore.

And Michael Jackson.

9 posted on 04/02/2009 9:15:00 AM PDT by topcat54 (Don't believe in a pre-anything rapture? Join "Naysayers for Jesus")
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To: TaraP

Count me a a skeptic, but there are some disturbingly puzzling cases. It would seem highly unlikely they are manned by aliens from another planet.


10 posted on 04/02/2009 9:16:09 AM PDT by mono
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To: TaraP
I think Geithner is a Alien or half reptile

Only half?

11 posted on 04/02/2009 9:16:33 AM PDT by Jonah Hex ("Never underestimate the hungover side of the Force.")
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To: nw_arizona_granny

ping


12 posted on 04/02/2009 9:16:45 AM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: Always Right
The only solid proof I know of for UFO’s is the existence of Al Gore.

And this guy...


13 posted on 04/02/2009 9:17:15 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (FOBO)
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To: Quix; Alamo-Girl; airborne; AnimalLover; annieokie; aragorn; auggy; backhoe; backslacker; ...

Ping...:)


14 posted on 04/02/2009 9:17:27 AM PDT by TaraP (The RAPTURE: Separation of Church and State)
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To: silverleaf; TaraP

Clear evidence that the the History Channel ought to stick with things they are good at, like Modern Marvels and Ice Road Truckers.


15 posted on 04/02/2009 9:18:30 AM PDT by topcat54 (Don't believe in a pre-anything rapture? Join "Naysayers for Jesus")
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To: Jonah Hex

I see your point..Maybe half Python half Grey.....


16 posted on 04/02/2009 9:19:14 AM PDT by TaraP (The RAPTURE: Separation of Church and State)
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To: TaraP

17 posted on 04/02/2009 9:19:58 AM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: TaraP

Thanks for the ping!


18 posted on 04/02/2009 9:20:11 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: topcat54

had a father who was a Korean War fighter pilot who had a UFO encounter

unfortunately did not know until after his death

not part of the swamp gas/weather balloon/hoax and black program technology crowd

thanks anyway.


19 posted on 04/02/2009 9:22:24 AM PDT by silverleaf (Freedom's just another word for "nothing left to lose")
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To: TaraP

He’s a “Reptilian”


20 posted on 04/02/2009 9:24:41 AM PDT by machogirl (not one of Rush's top-ten gal names)
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To: topcat54

TC-Aliens IMHO are Fallen Angels....

Something else to ponder, if Aliens (Fallen Angels) did come to show themselves to the masses, people would be in AWE! they would think earth hit a goldmine, aliens came to earth to save it, to help earthlings clean up the planet, and for all we know this is where the *one* the False Prophets of all False Prophets will come...Performing miracles of all kinds, he will eventually set himself up to be glorified to be worshipped and he will say *I AM GOD*
and that is when the truth of all truth will be known..

Every Knee shall bow and every tongue will confess JESUS IS LORD....

Like I said something to ponder.....


21 posted on 04/02/2009 9:25:12 AM PDT by TaraP (The RAPTURE: Separation of Church and State)
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To: TaraP
(But those who watched the replay say it was a bird.)

If a bird flies by and you can't identify the species, then, yes, it can be called a UFO...

22 posted on 04/02/2009 9:25:20 AM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: silverleaf
not part of the swamp gas/weather balloon/hoax and black program technology crowd

Things we can touch and test, unlike things in the fantasy world of extraterrestials.

23 posted on 04/02/2009 9:26:42 AM PDT by topcat54 (Don't believe in a pre-anything rapture? Join "Naysayers for Jesus")
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To: TaraP

There was a weird triangle shaped vehicle flying over Wichita in the early 70’s.

I saw it once, it was pretty cool. I suspect it was a prelude to the stealthy planes we see now. Regardless, it looked cool and shook up a few people that saw it.


24 posted on 04/02/2009 9:29:07 AM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: topcat54

maybe he could have touched them.... if that swamp gas and weather ballon hadn’t exceeded the MACH and G-force capabilities of the known scientific and aviation world in 1953


25 posted on 04/02/2009 9:31:27 AM PDT by silverleaf (Freedom's just another word for "nothing left to lose")
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To: TaraP
TC-Aliens IMHO are Fallen Angels....

Perhaps your opinion is faulty.

The fact is that fallen angels are nowhere recorded as having the power to create the imaginative things some people think they are seeing. Check the God’s Fact Book yourself. There is nothing there about fallen angels “com[ing] to show themselves to the masses.” False prophets are just that, false prophets (men), not fallen angels.

I'm afraid your opinion has no more credibility than the idea that black cats are a manifestation of fallen angels.

26 posted on 04/02/2009 9:32:49 AM PDT by topcat54 (Don't believe in a pre-anything rapture? Join "Naysayers for Jesus")
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To: silverleaf

Interesting about your Dad. Such sightings are exciting, I’ve had two myself. But there is an improper conflation regarding UFOs. UFOs are sighted rather often. The improper conflation is that people make a huge leap from unidentified flying objects in the air to intelligent alien visits. We have the first, but there is no good evidence that we have the second.

Also, IF aliens are visiting, and if the government is hiding that fact.......it can only be due to an agreement between governments and aliens (perhaps unwilling agreement by governments under duress). If aliens wished to “go public” no one could stop them. The realization of this can lead to an interesting thought process vis a vis UFOs.

My theory for now is that UFOs exist but are not piloted by aliens. We don’t know what UFOs are, hence the moniker we assign is correct.


27 posted on 04/02/2009 9:33:41 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Charter Member, 58 Million Club)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Canadian watchdog group exposes Canadian government cover-up policy on ET/UFO sightings and landings

http://www.examiner.com/x-2912-Seattle-Exopolitics-Examiner~y2009m3d30-Canadian-watchdog-group-exposes-Canadian-government-coverup-policy-on-ETUFO-sightings-and-landings
Canadian UFO and extraterrestrial reports relate to 4 governmental agencies:

1. The National Defense Department,

2. The Department of Transport,

3. The NRC (National Research Council) and,

4. The RCMP (Royal Canadian Mounted Police)
There is more info on UFO’s now then their has ever been.


28 posted on 04/02/2009 9:37:14 AM PDT by TaraP (The RAPTURE: Separation of Church and State)
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To: Always Right
The only solid proof I know of for UFO’s is the existence of Al Gore.

Sorry but an unnamed UFO source has already issued an anonymous statement denying any connections to the buffoon.......

29 posted on 04/02/2009 9:37:59 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This country isn't going to hell in a handbasket, it's riding shotgun on an Indy car....)
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To: TaraP

“TC-Aliens IMHO are Fallen Angels....”

And I’m guessing they might just be the interplanetary rascals who hid the dinosaur bones 6000 years ago, on orders from Lucifer.
(clearing throat)
To test our faith, of course.


30 posted on 04/02/2009 9:38:15 AM PDT by tumblindice (From Uranus came a race called the Buttnoidals, now running the country)
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To: SaxxonWoods

I “hope” the governments know what they are doing and I “hope” the visitations are benign

If they are not piloted they have an intelligence that controls their maneuvers

I am willing to just keep my head down if it is passive and nonthreatening and I never care to see one, thanks.


31 posted on 04/02/2009 9:38:19 AM PDT by silverleaf (Freedom's just another word for "nothing left to lose")
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To: TaraP

THANKS THANKS.

I do try and identify which group is being pinged at the beginning of said ping.

BTW, I’ll probably be home another hour or so and then off to pottery.


32 posted on 04/02/2009 9:48:51 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: SaxxonWoods
My theory for now is that UFOs exist but are not piloted by aliens

I believe they exist too, are man made and are based deep in the Antarctic........

33 posted on 04/02/2009 9:49:26 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This country isn't going to hell in a handbasket, it's riding shotgun on an Indy car....)
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To: Robe

Your unwitting confirmation of the truth by your reflexive naysaying is appreciated.

Thanks.


34 posted on 04/02/2009 9:54:31 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: silverleaf

Can you share any more details?


35 posted on 04/02/2009 9:54:56 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: TaraP

Well put.

CHECK OUT

HTTP://WWW.ANCIENTofDAYS.NET

and

HTTP://WWW.ALIENRESISTANCE.ORG

both by Guy Malone who’s helped many families become free of generations of abductions etc.


36 posted on 04/02/2009 9:56:07 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: silverleaf

“If they are not piloted they have an intelligence that controls their maneuvers”

There are many different types. Some (the ones that look like lights that change shape) may be living beings similar to insects. We just don’t know.


37 posted on 04/02/2009 9:56:32 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Charter Member, 58 Million Club)
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To: topcat54; Tara
Clear evidence that the the History Channel ought to stick with things they are good at, like Modern Marvels and Ice Road Truckers.

Typical liberal tactic: attack the messenger instead of the message.

The FAA and the military were unable to debunk what happened to that JAL airliner and the KC-135, why don't you take a swing at it, eh genius?
38 posted on 04/02/2009 9:56:46 AM PDT by mkjessup (You're either with our Constitution, or you are with TKU ("The Kenyan Usurper"). CHOOSE!!!)
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To: topcat54

Your paradoxical and unwitting confirmation of the truth by your reflexive naysaying is appreciated.

Thanks.


39 posted on 04/02/2009 9:57:09 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: topcat54

Perhaps

naysayers’

data collection,
data analysis,
data sifting

skills are grossly faulty to nonexistent.

Some seem to be poster boys for such abject, wholesale cluelessness and ignorance.


40 posted on 04/02/2009 9:58:49 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: TaraP; Tara
*Ping* for you TaraP, not for 'Tara' (sorry Tara).
41 posted on 04/02/2009 9:59:24 AM PDT by mkjessup (You're either with our Constitution, or you are with TKU ("The Kenyan Usurper"). CHOOSE!!!)
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To: SaxxonWoods

WRONG.

Wish you were correct. would make the END TIMES

LESS DECEPTIVE AND COMPLICATED.

Alas, you are simply wrong.

Guy Malone’s sites

HTTP://WWW.ANCIENTofDAYS.NET

and

HTTP://WWW.ALIENRESISTANCE.ORG

have tons of high quality analysis and data to sort out what the “ET’s” are and are up to.

They are CERTAINLY part of the Biblical warning about the GREAT DECEPTION OF THE END TIMES.

Besides, some of us have had relatives and close friends who’ve worked close enough to or even in highly black projects to KNOW that the ‘ET’s’ are involved.


42 posted on 04/02/2009 10:01:10 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Hot Tabasco

HEH HEH.

There are insults and then there are intergalactic insults.


43 posted on 04/02/2009 10:01:46 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: mkjessup

Asking someone to manage a task they are incapable of could be very frustrating.


44 posted on 04/02/2009 10:03:11 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: TaraP

I believe that sightings of UFOs are the psychic projections into the noospere of mankind’s desire to see improvements in off-the-ground transportation modalities, such as commercial airlines.

Thus, the persistant reports of UFO abductions involving anal probes led inevitably to the introduction of Homeland Security’s screening procedures at airports.

If these procedures could be introduced on other means of public transport and commerce, such as shopping malls and movie theaters, then one would expect reported sightings and other encounters with alien UFOs would decline accordingly.


45 posted on 04/02/2009 10:03:56 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: mkjessup

The radar tapes the Alaskan head of the FAA there ended up with at home . . . PROVE EMPHATICALLY it was more than

swamp gas and cow farts.

Alas, folks not given to believing Biblical truth set themselves up for all manner of lies they then believe.


46 posted on 04/02/2009 10:04:31 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Flycatcher
If a bird flies by and you can't identify the species, then, yes, it can be called a UFO...

It was probably an ivory billed woodpecker. If I ever saw one, I would not believe my eyes/report it because it would spread economic death wherever it landed.

47 posted on 04/02/2009 10:06:08 AM PDT by Theophilus (The people who were going to buy your home got aborted 30 years ago.)
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To: headsonpikes

I assume your post is a joke.

Otherwise, read several hundred pages of the better reports and come back and play.


48 posted on 04/02/2009 10:06:08 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Always Right
James Carville is absolute proof the aliens and humans can breed. :)
49 posted on 04/02/2009 10:36:43 AM PDT by cpdiii (roughneck, oilfield trash and proud of it, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, iconoclast.)
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To: Quix
naysayers’

Have you visited the mother ship recently?


50 posted on 04/02/2009 10:47:52 AM PDT by topcat54 (Don't believe in a pre-anything rapture? Join "Naysayers for Jesus")
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