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'Golden leaf' growers troubled by tobacco tax rise
ap ^ | 4/2/09 | EMERY P. DALESIO

Posted on 04/02/2009 3:47:57 PM PDT by Drango

RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) — For more than a century, the Sharp family of eastern North Carolina has grown tobacco, nicknamed the "golden leaf" for reasons that went beyond the cured plant's rich color.

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"There's nothing else we're doing that comes even close to yielding the profits that tobacco yields."

For generations, tobacco growers were a protected class, as lawmakers across the South defended the golden leaf as stridently as politicians from Michigan and New York do automakers and Wall Street. It remains a huge business: The tobacco crop in North Carolina alone, where farmers produce nearly half the value of the entire U.S. output, was worth $686 million last year.

But lawmakers don't look out for Big Tobacco as they once did. In 2004, Congress eliminated a tobacco quota and price support system that dated to the Depression. ~snip In Raleigh, where there were spittoons North Carolina General Assembly until the mid-1980s and a smoky haze in the halls until a few years ago, House members voted this week in favor of a limited ban on public smoking. ~snip

It's a blow felt in the sandy soil fields of eastern North Carolina that are just OK for sweet potatoes, cotton, soybeans, but fantastic for tobacco. Production dropped by 27 percent to roughly 645 million pounds in 2005, the year after the quota system came to an end, but has slowly recovered in the past few years, boosted by exports and new marketing tactics.

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Growers are also looking to sell their crop overseas, and a group called the U.S. Tobacco Cooperative that buys tobacco from 3,500 growers in five Southeast states has a unit that exports American leaf to China.

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KEYWORDS: nannystate; pufflist; sintaxes; smokers; taxincrease; tobacco
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"The tobacco farmers in the United States are receiving money under the Tobacco Transition Payment Program, .

LOL. Sucking on the government teat.

They're also considering a once unthinkable $1 per pack increase in the state tobacco tax

The tobacco wars are over.

North Carolina Democrat Kay Hagan railed against the federal tax increase, ...Then she voted for it anyway,

No comment

Growers say some tobacco buyers are cutting back orders by as much as 25 percent

25%??? Sweeeeeeet.

cigarette sales in the U.S. were already expected to drop 4 percent this year. Industry analysts say the decline could be twice that

Music unto my ears.

1 posted on 04/02/2009 3:47:57 PM PDT by Drango
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To: Drango

I take it you approve of targeted, draconian taxation, designed to alter the legal behavior of citizens?


2 posted on 04/02/2009 3:57:24 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry; Drango
I take it you approve of targeted, draconian taxation, designed to alter the legal behavior of citizens?

Yep. He's a nanny stater. He'd be more at home with the various communists at DU.

Drango, please go pollute some other forum with your childish comments.
3 posted on 04/02/2009 3:59:41 PM PDT by JamesP81 (When Obama signed an order providing tax dollars to murder children, he stopped being my president)
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To: RegulatorCountry

I believe that is what he is saying. You might as well tax all those that eat apples, ride bikes, eat steak.......or talk like fools on the Senate floor.


4 posted on 04/02/2009 4:00:44 PM PDT by RC2
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To: Drango

And when the evil tobacco barrons are driven out of business the government will go looking for another nipple. I’m giessing you’ll be flopping yours out for them?


5 posted on 04/02/2009 4:01:04 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

I take it you support addicting thousands of teenagers every year?


6 posted on 04/02/2009 4:01:30 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Drango

Reason #983248904239043214739083219381 not to vote Democrat. But sadly some idiot Republicans support this kind of crap too.


7 posted on 04/02/2009 4:06:53 PM PDT by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: Drango
I take it you support addicting thousands of teenagers every year?

I support freedom. You support state control of people's behavior.
8 posted on 04/02/2009 4:09:01 PM PDT by JamesP81 (When Obama signed an order providing tax dollars to murder children, he stopped being my president)
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To: Drango

Taking away jobs from people to pay for health insurance for other people. Just grand.

I am a smoker, I know I know, I feel like a leper admitting it, but I am, so whatever.

Anywho, this over a dollar a pack difference is at the very LEAST going to slow me down if I don’t go ahead and quit altogether. Now here’s where I don’t get the government’s logic. Yes, it’s all nice to punish the evil smokers and drinkers and tax the hell out of them, but what do you do when you tax them so much that you get ZERO? You can $0.62 a pack tax or you can charge $1.62 a pack tax which in the end will get you NOTHING when they stop buying them.

And then there is the whole cigarette industry and the jobs that come along with it.


9 posted on 04/02/2009 4:11:25 PM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson VIVA LA REVOLUTION!)
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To: Drango
It's not the Governments job to raise other peoples children.
Or yours.

I take it you support addicting thousands of teenagers every year?

I do, if those kids want it, they'll get it no matter what.

IBTZ

10 posted on 04/02/2009 4:12:07 PM PDT by MaxMax (RINO=RAT!)
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To: Drango

The same could be said with your food supply. Or your wage. Or what you drive. What your wife looks like -ugh. What someone else’s kids look like. What you can drive and when you can drive it and where you can drive it. When tobacco sales go down the tubes, where will the FED’S go next? Your water you spray on your pristine lawn or the color of your house because it’s not politically correct? How about no black cars in CA because they cause global warming? Back to my first statement. You really do deserve to starve to death soon before you have to pay estate taxes. I’m sure with your comment that you don’t have an estate or anything that looks like one. Grow your own food or barter with your neighbors. I’m sure your neighbors have nothing to do with you. Smart neighbors.


11 posted on 04/02/2009 4:12:55 PM PDT by hkp123
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To: MaxMax
... if those kids want it...

OK...then we differ. I don't believe addicting teenagers is a conservative value.

12 posted on 04/02/2009 4:14:21 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Drango

Why Hell Yeah I support addicting thousands of teenagers every year!! That’s what us evil Republicans do, we like to kill people and stuff. The younger the better!


13 posted on 04/02/2009 4:14:21 PM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson VIVA LA REVOLUTION!)
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To: hkp123
The only political class I know of that uses "CHEEEELDREN" to stop an argument is,
LIBERALS!
14 posted on 04/02/2009 4:15:12 PM PDT by MaxMax (RINO=RAT!)
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To: Drango
I take it you support addicting thousands of teenagers every year?

In the same way I support mowing down thousands of Children with assault weapons, annihilating millions of innocent Iraqis, and trampling the planet with my carbon footprint. I'm going right to Hell don't ya know.

15 posted on 04/02/2009 4:15:38 PM PDT by Seven plus One
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To: Drango

Wow, where do you live? Do they actually hold the teenagers down and get them addicted or tie them up?

Cause where I come from they just throw them in a pit with cigs and lighters and tell them they can’t come out until they are addicted.


16 posted on 04/02/2009 4:15:52 PM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson VIVA LA REVOLUTION!)
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To: Drango
OK...then we differ. I don't believe addicting teenagers is a conservative value.

But you support Taxation, and that isn't a conservative value either. So what are you?

I support leaving law abiding citizens alone, and to their own devices.

17 posted on 04/02/2009 4:17:32 PM PDT by MaxMax (RINO=RAT!)
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To: MaxMax

Maybe they should have raised the tax on a gallon of gas by 2200% for non smokers only. We could claim it helps prevent teeangers from becoming addicted to carbon. LOL


18 posted on 04/02/2009 4:18:00 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Drango

At least they are producing something we can EXPORT to China! It’s only a matter of time until the black market takes over the cigarette business here in the US.


19 posted on 04/02/2009 4:18:19 PM PDT by OCC
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To: OCC

China can have ‘em.


20 posted on 04/02/2009 4:18:58 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Drango
Your friends are waiting for you over here --> D.U.
21 posted on 04/02/2009 4:19:21 PM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: autumnraine

Once the kiddies are good n addicted, I like to burn them with a cigarette as a brand just so I don’t waste time trying to addict the ones I already addicted.


22 posted on 04/02/2009 4:20:17 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: OCC

How right you are. I’m growing my own tobacco. Easy to do. Curing is another story.


23 posted on 04/02/2009 4:20:34 PM PDT by hkp123
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To: Drango

Are you really a FReeper or did some elitist yuppy hijack your account?


24 posted on 04/02/2009 4:21:24 PM PDT by andyandval
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To: hkp123

Same here, I have fifty plants started. Curing OTOH...


25 posted on 04/02/2009 4:22:21 PM PDT by MaxMax (RINO=RAT!)
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To: andyandval

People sell anything on Ebay these days.


26 posted on 04/02/2009 4:23:02 PM PDT by MaxMax (RINO=RAT!)
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To: Drango
You must be a chick. Caught your kids smoking did you? Instead of taking responsibility you are blaming others. Yep, Your a chick.
27 posted on 04/02/2009 4:24:04 PM PDT by Free_in_Alabama (The average citizen is to lazy to steal from you, instead they are asking the government to do it)
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To: Free_in_Alabama
Music unto my ears.

Must be from those drama novels they sell at the grocery store.

28 posted on 04/02/2009 4:26:02 PM PDT by MaxMax (RINO=RAT!)
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To: MaxMax
Must be from those drama novels they sell at the grocery store.

LOL Bodice ripping passion.
29 posted on 04/02/2009 4:27:33 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: MaxMax

The teens will not bother with cigarettes and skip right to the hard stuff. I used to be a teen, so I know.....ha ha ha


30 posted on 04/02/2009 4:28:56 PM PDT by ThunderStruck94
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To: Drango

I’m going outside to smoke a nice Greycliff cigar...in your honor.


31 posted on 04/02/2009 4:29:02 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. -Will Rogers)
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To: autumnraine
Anywho, this over a dollar a pack difference is at the very LEAST going to slow me down if I don’t go ahead and quit altogether.

Cigarettes are now $8+ per pack here in New Yorkistan.

I NEVER buy them here.

There are ways to circumvent these thieves.

But I never do it personally.

Honest, Governor Patterson, Senator Schumer, Senator Gillibrand, and Mr. Tedisco/Murphy whoever the hell wins.

Honest.

32 posted on 04/02/2009 4:29:17 PM PDT by andyandval
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To: ThunderStruck94

I smoked pot years before I started smoking cigarettes.


33 posted on 04/02/2009 4:30:42 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Osage Orange

I’m all smiles that if not today, eventually, you’ll $0.40 pay more for that cigar. Bummer dude.

And of course less kids will take the habit up.


34 posted on 04/02/2009 4:31:46 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Drango
I don't believe addicting teenagers is a conservative value.

How about alcohol tax increases to save teenagers? I don't want them getting addicted to that either. How about junk food? That causes fatness and heart disease. How about sodas with caffeine and sugar? Also not good. How about swimming? People drown you know.
35 posted on 04/02/2009 4:35:15 PM PDT by ZX12R
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To: Drango

Somehow I don't think you've thought this through.

36 posted on 04/02/2009 4:35:52 PM PDT by MaxMax (RINO=RAT!)
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To: Drango

DU Chick - your at the wrong site. I know its hard for you but please try to get it right, your trying to go here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5371142

Later


37 posted on 04/02/2009 4:36:54 PM PDT by Free_in_Alabama (The average citizen is to lazy to steal from you, instead they are asking the government to do it)
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To: cripplecreek

If children smoked it would help pay for their own health care.


38 posted on 04/02/2009 4:37:47 PM PDT by MaxMax (RINO=RAT!)
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To: Drango
I don't believe addicting teenagers is a conservative value.

I gather the concept of personal responsibility is lost on you.

39 posted on 04/02/2009 4:37:49 PM PDT by lwd
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To: Drango
No one is addicting teenagers.

I have four grandkids and none of them smoke. Four kids and only one one smokes. My hubby and I both smoked for years. Hubby died in 2006, not caused by smoking.

I still smoke and so healthy at 79 the Dr.s hate me. You need a attitude adjustment and stop blaming smokers for addicting young people.

40 posted on 04/02/2009 4:39:41 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: MaxMax

Damn we better start handing free smokes out to illegal immigrant children. Surely there must be a way to get nicotine into baby bottles.


41 posted on 04/02/2009 4:39:47 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: MaxMax
Newt Gingrich said in 1997, Civilization cannot survive with twelve-year-olds having babies, fifteen-year-olds shooting one another, seventeen-year-olds dying of AIDS, and eighteen-year-olds graduating with diplomas they cannot read.

He should have added teenage smoking to his list. But here on FR, smoking is celebrated and those who support teenagers are mocked as liberals. Sorry I don't buy it.

42 posted on 04/02/2009 4:39:55 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Drango

I smoke outside my home. In private. Politely. Where it is none of your damn business.

There is nothing worse on this Earth than the smug opinion of someone who believes they have the majority on their side.


43 posted on 04/02/2009 4:40:37 PM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: Drango
Don't worry....I have the money. Besides I enjoy one..maybe every two-three weeks or so...

But why would you want more money to go to the government? That doesn't make sense.....

Nope, two kids...grown ups now..and don't smoke.

44 posted on 04/02/2009 4:42:16 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. -Will Rogers)
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To: Drango
But smoking supports those Teenagers you want to protect.
They get SCHIP and smokers get S#IT.
45 posted on 04/02/2009 4:43:19 PM PDT by MaxMax (RINO=RAT!)
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To: BARLF
No one is addicting teenagers.

Someone is. 90% of all smokers start as teenagers.

Adults don’t smoke. Teenagers smoke and then become adults after it’s way too late to quit.

46 posted on 04/02/2009 4:46:11 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: cripplecreek
We could drive to elementary schools at night and throw packs over the playground fences.
I hear illegal immigrant kids like menthol.
47 posted on 04/02/2009 4:47:32 PM PDT by MaxMax (RINO=RAT!)
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To: Drango
But here on FR, smoking is celebrated

No, it's defended.

48 posted on 04/02/2009 4:53:01 PM PDT by andyandval
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To: Drango
Someone is. 90% of all smokers start as teenagers.

Have you ever thought teenagers might make their own decision to smoke, use drugs, drink alcohol, drive to fast, quit school or whatever they damm well please and parents can't stop them?

Some even go hunting with Dad and shoot a deer.You probably hate guns too, as guns jump up and kill people. People like you wanting to control every-ones life make me puke. Live your life as you please and extend that privilege to all other people.

49 posted on 04/02/2009 4:53:31 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: Drango

Your kind are responsible for the death of tens of millions.

Why you would advertise your willing association with such evil is beyond the comprehension of decent people everywhere.


50 posted on 04/02/2009 4:55:20 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If Liberals would pay their taxes, there would be no deficit..)
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