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Special Election in New York, Why Obama Lost
National Republican Trust PAC ^ | April 3, 2009 | National Republican Trust PAC

Posted on 04/03/2009 7:10:49 AM PDT by libstripper

Dear Supporter:

With your help, The National Republican Trust PAC was able to beat back President Barack Obama’s front-line offensive against American values.

When we told you about the special election in New York to fill the congressional seat vacated by Democrat Kirsten Gillibrand, and that we had a chance of winning it back for conservatives, you responded and we were able to send a message to Washington, D.C., that Obama’s massive spending is not wanted.

The election was held Tuesday — and the race right now is a tie with some 10,000 absentee ballots still to be counted.

We are confident that Republican Jim Tedisco will be certified the winner.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalrepublicantrust.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: election; ny2009; obama; tedisco
The National Republican Trust PAC represents the Republican part of the Republican party. It ran the most effective negative (i.e., truthful) ads against the Usurper in the 2008 election. Indeed, if McCain had aggressively run such ads, he'd probably be President now. I urge all Freepers to to what I've done: contribute generously to them instead of the RNC.
1 posted on 04/03/2009 7:10:49 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: libstripper

ACORN is reporting that the 10,000 absentee ballots have been counted and the Dem won by 12,300 votes... /s


2 posted on 04/03/2009 7:12:52 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: libstripper

This was a pathetic result in a Republican District , following 3 trillion dollars in wasteful govt spending. Shameful, embarrassing, emasculating.


3 posted on 04/03/2009 7:16:54 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: libstripper

The spin on this from both sides is puke inducing.

Tedisco screwed up big time. He would have won easily if he had not.


4 posted on 04/03/2009 7:20:49 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (We are at an awkward stage: too late to fix things from within and too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

I’m not familiar with the particulars of the race. But you’re right ... wasn’t Tedisco polling heavily ahead at one point?

What changed / happened?


5 posted on 04/03/2009 7:25:54 AM PDT by rom (Obama '12 slogan: Let's keep on hopin'!)
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To: rom

Yes, he was up by double digits. Then he decided that he wouldn’t take a position on the stimulus package. I guess he had to consult with someone to find the right answer.

Republican candidates may not like it, but people have been so betrayed by Republicans that ANY sign that they aren’t rooted in principle is their death knell.

He did eventually take a stand against the stimulus and started saying the right things, but a lot of people had tuned out at that point.


7 posted on 04/03/2009 7:30:48 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (We are at an awkward stage: too late to fix things from within and too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: Nonstatist

A “Republican” district that went for Obama, Clinton, and Spitzer in the most recent elections. Right now many people really don’t care about the 3 trillion dollar spending so that will not have much bearing on elections yet. The reality of this massive spending boondoggle will not sink in until interest rates rise and inflation starts running wild. This will doom the Dems in 2010 as long as the Republicans run good, solid conservative candidates and not Dem-lite Rinos. Look at this New York election as a tiny baby step toward bigger and better things to come.


8 posted on 04/03/2009 7:34:31 AM PDT by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: Baynative
Tedisco is up by 12 votes and the absentee votes (about 10000) have yet to be counted. The majority of those votes are from Saratoga County, which has a Republican majority. The remainder are military votes. The consensus is that Tedisco will win by about 750 to 1000 votes, if the trends hold true.
The 20 district does not have a republican majority however, the lower counties, from Rensselaer down to Dutchess are all top heavy with Democrats. So for Tedisco to even get close is amazing!
9 posted on 04/03/2009 7:36:16 AM PDT by voveo
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To: voveo

Since when would the Demonrats have a problem stealing 751 votes?


10 posted on 04/03/2009 7:43:42 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Worse than we could have imagined.)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

That makes no sense. So, Republicans who were waiting for the guy to take a stand, decided NOT TO VOTE or VOTE FOR THE OTHER GUY because he made up his mind too late? Ridiculous.


11 posted on 04/03/2009 7:44:29 AM PDT by Hildy (Dr. King had a dream. Obama has an ELF who has a “plan”.)
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To: Russ

Thank you! I’m getting tired of the Democrat spin that this is a Republican district because the majority of people have not bothered to change their registration even though they reliably vote in large numbers for the Democrat.

For heaven’s sake! This could be a huge repudiation of Barack Obama and we’re all griping because Tedisco was a dopey candidate. What would it take to make some people happy?


12 posted on 04/03/2009 7:46:17 AM PDT by Mangia E Statti Zitto
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To: libstripper

What’s really pathetic is that only 150,000 turned out in a state the size of NY.


13 posted on 04/03/2009 7:48:11 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: libstripper

Are there any Republican districts in New York? I thought it was overwhelmingly Democratic?


14 posted on 04/03/2009 7:50:00 AM PDT by goodn'mad
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
He did eventually take a stand against the stimulus and started saying the right things, but a lot of people had tuned out at that point.

Tedisco's debate performance was awful because he is reluctant to take stands on almost everything. You can tell he just wants to take that middle ground and not offend anyone. The typical lame Republican way that you saw from McCain. It's a shame because Tedisco was really key to getting rid of that putz Spitzer.

Another factor was that both Tedisco and the Republican independent groups kept pounding away at the AIG bonuses to the point where that was the only message. Terrible strategy.

15 posted on 04/03/2009 7:50:13 AM PDT by Dahoser (The missus and I joined the NRA last weekend. Who says Obama can't inspire conservatives?)
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To: jersey117
That's a good point. We may be seeing a massive exodus from any sense of need for political involvement among a very large portion of our population here in the U.S.

I read similar things about the unexpectedly low turnout last November in some parts of key "swing" states in the Northeast (Pennsylvania and Ohio in particular).

16 posted on 04/03/2009 7:51:40 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: libstripper
We are confident that Republican Jim Tedisco will be certified the winner.

Means nothing. The RAT machine will make sure Tedisco will lose like they have done in other races.

17 posted on 04/03/2009 7:53:48 AM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: libstripper

BUMP!
Good post.


18 posted on 04/03/2009 7:54:49 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Dahoser

That is what turns so many people off to the Republican party. They absolutely refuse to stand for anything. People would follow if they would only show some leadership, even if they didn’t completely agree with them. Give the devil his due but that is one thing about the Democrats. They stick together and there has never been any doubt in my mind what they stand for. Republicans? I always wonder.


19 posted on 04/03/2009 7:55:40 AM PDT by goodn'mad
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To: Nonstatist
I thought this district, which used to be heavily Republican, was reapportioned in 2003 and is now slightly Dem. Another FReeper posted some stats yesterday on another thread that the district has changed since the split, so a win here would be big.
20 posted on 04/03/2009 7:56:35 AM PDT by aegiscg47
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To: All

Update - Some good news:

Republican Candidate Takes Lead In Race For Gillibrand’s Seat; Begins Transition To Congress

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2221537/posts


21 posted on 04/03/2009 7:57:11 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: jersey117
What’s really pathetic is that only 150,000 turned out in a state the size of NY.

lol

22 posted on 04/03/2009 7:57:24 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: goodn'mad
there has never been any doubt in my mind what they CLAIM TO stand for

What they say and what they believe are two different things.

23 posted on 04/03/2009 7:58:05 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: Hildy

Of course it wouldn’t make sense to you. Anyone who can accept the fact that a Republican needs to ‘make up his mind’ about the most pressing issue in the country and on a bill that ALL house Republicans voted against, obviously wouldn’t understand.

You’re thinking in terms of parties. You’re thinking that no matter how bad the Republican is, the Democrat is worse.

Well, you’re probably right, but here’s the issue that elected Republicans across the country are forgetting: Many people are starving for candidates who stand for SOMETHING. They’ve been so deprived of leaders who know who they are and know what their position is that even if they don’t agree with that position, they’ll go with them.

You are failing to step back and realize just how deep the betrayal has been. People BELIEVED that electing Republicans would bring about a more responsible government. They stuck their neck’s out. They dealt with constant derision and outright vilification in some cases to vote in the people they believed in. And they were left in the dust with nothing to show for it.

Wake up. We have Republicans in the house voting ‘present’ on fascist bills to control executive pay. We have Republicans in the house who don’t know that a Bill of Attainder is unconstitutional.

Are there Democrats that are so stupid that one wonders how they walk upright? You betcha there are and that’s most of them in fact. But that doesn’t make it anymore acceptable than Zero’s lame ass argument about Bush starting the bailouts and spending first, so his doubling down on it is okay.

Republicans were supposed to be better. They promised us they were better. And they didn’t keep their promise.

With this in mind, any candidate must tread carefully in order to keep their base. That means knowing who they are, what they believe in, and where they stand. Hesitation is unacceptable.


24 posted on 04/03/2009 7:59:33 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (We are at an awkward stage: too late to fix things from within and too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: libstripper

Imagine this is with the Obama machine putting ALL its energy on ONE little election.

Now divide that machine over the entire house elections.

FOOTNOTE: TAKE YOUR CHILDREN AND YOUR TEENAGEERS TO THESE TEA PARTIES!!! EDUCATE THE NEXT GENERATION OF VOTERS!! OBAMA MUST NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN!


25 posted on 04/03/2009 8:01:53 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: jersey117
What’s really pathetic is that only 150,000 turned out in a state the size of NY.

This was a congressional district, not a statewide race.

26 posted on 04/03/2009 8:02:20 AM PDT by kevkrom
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To: FBD
"We are confident that Republican Jim Tedisco will be certified the winner."

They'll never learn.

27 posted on 04/03/2009 8:02:37 AM PDT by Landru (Arghh, they're trapped in my colon like spackle or paste.)
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To: jersey117

This was a house race and not open to voting by the whole state.


28 posted on 04/03/2009 8:03:08 AM PDT by cdpap
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To: jersey117
What’s really pathetic is that only 150,000 turned out in a state the size of NY.

It's not like New Jersey where the law doesn't count at all.

In New York, in a Congressional DISTRICT, only registered voters that live in that DISTRICT are allowed to legally vote.

Size of the state is not material, as in jersey where the jersey supreme court can override the state constitution and replace an indicted senate candidate with a different one, even after the deadline has passed.

29 posted on 04/03/2009 8:06:49 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: cdpap

I stand corrected. Thanks.


30 posted on 04/03/2009 8:07:29 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: jersey117
What’s really pathetic is that only 150,000 turned out in a state the size of NY.

All congressional districts are the same size in terms of population, so the population of NY is not relevant. There are about 600,000 or 700,000 residents per congressional district, I am not sure what the figure is these days. Of those, not all are eligible voters. 150,000 is probably a 40 or 50 percent turnout of registered voters.

31 posted on 04/03/2009 8:07:30 AM PDT by Defiant (One Big-Ass Mistake, America!!)
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To: jersey117
What’s really pathetic is that only 150,000 turned out in a state the size of NY.

Each Congressional District represents about 800,000 people, and registered voters might be 60 % of that of thereabouts, so I dont get your point about this being NY.

32 posted on 04/03/2009 8:12:24 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: jersey117
We really need an edit feature...you're going to be hearing about it all day now!

We're using cover sheets on our TPS Reports now, you know

33 posted on 04/03/2009 8:14:15 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (We are at an awkward stage: too late to fix things from within and too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
When you blink, you lose. It would give me pause also if he could not give a decisive answer to a simple question, it is a YES or NO question after all.
34 posted on 04/03/2009 8:17:45 AM PDT by annieokie (i)
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To: Landru

ha! yeah,
just a litle herding of the sheep here... ;^)


35 posted on 04/03/2009 8:28:21 AM PDT by FBD (My carbon footprint is bigger then yours)
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