Posted on 04/03/2009 12:00:09 PM PDT by DesertRenegade
The title is wrong.
Same-Sex “Marriage” ruling is an assault on HUMANITY’S values.
Marriage was created by God as the first human institution, between one man and one woman, with the intent of procreation.
This reflects the very nature of the triune God.
All sodomy laws were struck down by the SCOTUS in 2003.
Ditto’s. I like your posts by the way.
Stay safe
There is already a federal right to sodomy. It was the Lawrence vs. Texas case in 2003 that struck down laws against that act and homosexuality in general.
Whether this also means there is a federal right to same sex marriage, time will tell.
Liberal judges can take anything and make it a civil right. Liberals look to judges as a super legislature. Call a spade a spade.
See, under the “penumbra doctrine” interpretation of the U.S. Constitution, there are rights that are not specifically delineated, yet they exist and are enforceable.
Imagine the constitution is like the sun, and during a solar eclipse, though much of the sun is obstructed by the moon, the penumbra appears and is revealed; similarly, the right to engage in homosexual conduct and to be ‘married’ to practitioners thereof, appears in the penumbra of the constitution-—since the moon passed in front of it....and, it became revealed...
well, that’s the theory any way.
I’m surprised you didn’t know that.
I was born, raised, educated, married, lived in Iowa a good 30 years. It’s always been liberal. Very much so.
Lawrence vs. Texas was a good ruling in that the Court sided against the State who entered a private residence without a warrant and arrested two adults for an act they were doing (sodomy) in the privacy of their own bedroom.
See my post about the “penumbra doctrine”, above. When the moon passes in front of the sun during a solar eclpise, the penumbra is revealed, and mothers can kill their unborn babies.
It’s very simple.
“There is already a federal right to sodomy. It was the Lawrence vs. Texas case in 2003 that struck down laws against that act and homosexuality in general.”
And a very good ruling it was. Unless you’re the sort who likes the police in your bedroom.
I predict a large influx of tourist from Minneapolis.
My guess is that there are Freepers who advocate the Police (state) entering a person's home without a warrant and arresting adults for sexual acts that they are committing in the privacy of their bedroom.
I was born in Des Moines and lived there until age 10 when my parents moved to the Chicago area.
My ancestors were among the earliest settlers in Iowa migrating there from Illinois in the 1850's to work in the coal mines in southeastern Iowa. The coal miners were very involved in the union and progressive movements in Iowa. The coal mining industry in Iowa was strong until the mid-1920's. If you read the early 20th century history of states like Illinois, Iowa and Missouri, you'll find that the progressive movement was very strong there.
I can recall my grandfather, who was a miner, putting me on his knee when I was a young boy and telling me that I was a democrat. He told me that the Democrats were for the people and the Republicans were for the rich. My mother grew up in the same small Iowa town as Senator Harkin. Harkin, who is as looney as they come, is typical of many Iowans.
My impression is that most people in Iowa are Democrats because that's an Iowa tradition passed down from the earliest settlers. You'll find Republicans limited mainly to the farmers.
Iowans are not stupid. I once heard that the average IQ in Iowa was the highest of any state. Unfortunately, Iowans may be too smart for their own good given their propensity to support Democrats.
Iowa flocked to Mike Huckabee and gay marriage, evidently. I can’t fault your logic here, Designer.
“gay marriage will be legal there for at least a few years.”
Again, this is not true at all. There are various legal avenues. But even if the legislature chose what you suggest, the timing couldn’t be better (for pro-family groups). Since the session is about to expire - there could be a ruling within days and then again in the new session. So two sessions could be covered in a matter of weeks. But like I said previously, there are at least a dozen other avenues of action. The people of Iowa are not going to stand for what these liberal activist judges have attempted.
“Lawrence vs. Texas was a good ruling in that the Court sided against the State who entered a private residence without a warrant and arrested two adults for an act they were doing (sodomy) in the privacy of their own bedroom.”
I don’t believe that is what happened. They were entering the home to arrest one of the men on a warrant and happened upon the illegal activity in the process. It is exactly the same as if they were responding to a burglary and happened upon a man raping a young child. They would not ignore the perpetrator just because they were entering the home on another pretext. The bust was totally legal.
The conservative leaders in Iowa seem to believe that there is no stopping this from a legislative perspective until 2012:
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20090403/NEWS/90403013
“Chuck Hurley, president of the Iowa Family Policy Center, said lawmakers should debate the issue either in the waning weeks of their regular session or in a special session.
“Hurley said the Legislature should have passed such an amendment years ago. That would have headed off the lawsuit that led to Fridays Supreme Court decision.
“He said legislative leaders contended in the past that no constitutional amendment was needed, because the state already had a law banning gay marriage. They said The courts not going to overturn the statute, youre crazy, he recalled. Well, now whos crazy?
“Hurley acknowledged that until a constitutional amendment could be placed on the ballot, theres nothing gay-marriage opponents can do to stop gay couples from marrying in Iowa. The soonest such a vote could take place would be 2012.”
My parents, especially my mother, tried to sell me that swill about dumocraps for the people and republicans for business as well. Up until I was about a Junior in high school I didn’t give it much thought but then when I did I told them to peddle that crap somewhere else because I wasn’t buying it.
I delivered an essay about that time with the premise that Roosevelt was an alright guy but WWII is what ended the depression. On civics day they took us to the courthouse where the DA told us about how juries are picked ...I told him that it sounded like the objective of the process was not to get a jury of peers but instead a jury of impressionable idiots to simple to think for themselves. And so it has been for more than half a century.
“I dont believe that is what happened. They were entering the home to arrest one of the men on a warrant and happened upon the illegal activity in the process.”
No, there was no warrant. A neighbor had reported a “disturbance” and the police entered. The police had probable cause to enter. The neighbor, however, later admitted to lying about it, and pled no contest to filing a false police report.
“My guess is that there are Freepers who advocate the Police (state) entering a person’s home without a warrant and arresting adults for sexual acts that they are committing in the privacy of their bedroom.”
Plenty of them, in fact. If you can locate the threads from when the Texas ruling came down, you’ll find them. Included were numerous predictions that the courts would soon legalize beastiality, polygamy and sex with children.
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