Posted on 04/03/2009 12:00:09 PM PDT by DesertRenegade
Iowans oppose gay marriage by the same margin the rest of the nations does (by more than 20 points). The people of Iowa don't want this. That's why the Democratic governor is scared to death of this ruling.
Vacated by whom? This is the top appellate court in the state.
Iowans are going to have to deal with this on their own now, if they even have the moral fortitude. In a way, they (collectively) own the culpability that lead to this travesty, and they are now embracing the fruit of their actions and inactions. Electing those whose sworn agenda is the ultimate destruction of a moral cultural framework (Democrats), they have gradually sealed their logical fate. When surrounding states were passing constitutional amendments to stem this horror, what were their representatives doing? Who are these "justices" that their governors were appointing?
It is now all but too late to take any legislative action in this session to initiate a marriage amendment, virtually ensuring that this ruling will be enacted within a few months. This will give the homo-activists a strong foot-in-the-door in the event that a marriage referendum does come down road (California?) It's always much harder to undo such a court action, especially after some time has elapsed. The homosexuals will always bellyache that a "right" is being taken away from them by "haters."
You're being to way too narrow in your perception. Massachusetts has become extremely hostile to any Biblically Christian standard. Catholic Charities can no longer pursue it mission of adopting out children in this state because homosexuals must be given equal consideration. When the Love Won Out held a conference at Tremont Baptist, the most vile demonstration against anyone associated with this voluntary ministry to help homosexuals change took place with demonstrators given Carte Blanche to do pretty much whatever they liked without police action. Parents are not allowed to object, or even know, when homosexual normalization is being presented to their public school children. Homosexuals don't need to force clergy to perform their "marriages" (yet) - they have all the leeway they could desire otherwise.
Forgive me if you like this sport, but here it goes:
The most popular sport in Iowa is not basketball, not baseball, not even football; it is wrestling. Two hot, sweaty guys rolling around on a mat wearing singlets, showing off their “special moves”. Gay marriage wasn’t far off on the horizon.
In the rest of the country, they can hold their state wrestling tournaments in a high school gym, they are that sparsely attended. In Iowa, over 90,000 people come to the state wrestling championships at the new arena in Des Moines every year. The boys basketball and high school football playoffs barely get half that attendance.
This opinion of wrestling makes me VERY unpopular here in Iowa. Oh, and I also can’t stand the Iowa State Fair. That opinion almost gets me run out of metro Des Moines every year by hateful Iowans. And yes, I was born and raised an Iowan.
“One dumbass judge doesnt make a whole state liberal.”
It wasn’t one judge. It was a unanimous ruling by the Supreme Court’s seven justices.
“Is 6 years later too soon for the legalization of polygamy?”
Try all they want. It’s still not legal, although I’m absolutely appalled at the officials who allow this to go on.
No it’s not legal yet. However, legal precedents being set by the anti-sodomy and pro-same-sex “marriage” crowd will eventually be used successfully by the pro-polygamy crowd. Notice I didn’t say it will necessarily happen immediately but eventually it will. Much like Griswold vs. Connecticut set legal precedents for Roe vs. Wade years later.
Albert Mohler had a good blog commentary upon this a few years back-
http://www.albertmohler.com/commentary_read.php?cdate=2006-03-10
Well there certainly seems to be a trend.
Eastern Iowa is liberal thanks to all of the Scandanavians and Irish Catholics who settled there.
Ohhh well then obviously seven douche bags legeslating from the bench makes the state liberal then?
And what exactly is wrong with that?! Prude.
Totally, I mean rapist, child molestors, and the gays need a safe haven as well. And Freepers are totally wrong for not providing them that. < / Sarc >
Perhaps you can show me where a court has forced a Roman Catholic church to perform a marriage where one of the parties is a legally divorced person, but has not successfully gone through that church's annulment procedure. That would give some strength to that argument. Churches have always had the last word on qualifications for receiving religious services. There's no reason to believe it would be any different when it comes to qualifications for marriage.
The new ruling threatens to criminalize preachers and ministers who believe that the homosexual lifestyle is unhealthy and immoral.
Even fringe religions that teach that the races should be separated are not persecuted. That only happens when someone incites violence from the pulpit. I know that a lot of people fear not being able to speak their minds about how they feel about homosexuality, but show me someone who's been imprisoned or fined for telling a racial joke. Social pressure to conform to a "new" standard can be coercive, but it's not the same as the force of law.
I recall hearing that argument made repeatedly, but not specifically who said it. All such comments need to be collected and shoved back down the throat of every Democrat (I'd be surprised if nearly all such comments weren't be Democrats) who ever said such and is up for re-election. They were lousy prophets and these politically motivated comments caused this to happen. The needed amendment could already be on the books and it was pushed by the right in enough time. The left blocked it from reaching the voters and they did so by claiming it wasn't needed.
The GOP should be screaming about this as loud as the expelled tax protesters were screaming. They don't have the power to force the Democrats to act and the Legislature likely will adjurn without acting. But the GOP does have the power to create political theater such that when the Democrats (1) refuse to consider an amendment because of "lack of time", (2) refuse to extend the session to act on an amendment and (3) Gov. Culver refuses to call a special session to act on an amendment the public will know who to blame for this every time they read the fawning press coverage of the forthcoming wave of same sex marriages. Three strikes, throw them all out! This should not be put off to the next regular session. Start now getting the option of an amendment to the voters. If they like the ruling they can vote down the amendment. If they feel like I think they feel they'll want to pass it like yesterday.
OK, I could handle that, so to speak.
Heh,heh. I don't like wrestling, either. That makes two of us. I don't see much point unless you have a brother or child in a match. Even then, you want to make sure he takes a shower afterward.
And the State Fair: I still go, but only to help man our booth. The Fair has devolved into a big "show". The big draw for many people is the grandstand shows. I've never attended one.
It wasnt one judge. It was a unanimous ruling by the Supreme Courts seven justices."
To be fair to Tempest, it was just one judge at first.
Judge Hanson is not on the ISC, but he's the one who first opened that can of worms.
Yes, and metro areas like Waterloo and Desmoines, and Council Bluffs, and Quad Cities, are liberal due to heavy union influence.
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