Skip to comments.Massacre kills 12 at immigration center in NY
Posted on 04/03/2009 1:17:14 PM PDT by NYC Republican
A gunman opened fire at an immigration services center in downtown Binghamton on Friday, killing as many as 13 people before authorities found him dead, officials said. Gov. David Paterson said at a news conference that 12 or 13 people had been killed.
A law enforcement official said the body of the man believed to be the gunman was found in an office of the American Civic Association building. The official was not authorized to speak publicly about the details of an ongoing hostage situation and was talking on condition of anonymity.
The gunman barricaded the rear door of the building with his car before entering through the front door, firing his weapon, the official said.
It wasn't clear whether the gunman was included in the number of dead provided by the governor.
The Binghamton Press & Sun Bulletin reported that citizenship classes had been scheduled Friday at the center.
The Binghamton SWAT team responded, and the FBI was sending hostage negotiators and an evidence response team to the scene. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives was also sending agents to Binghamton
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Another incident they’ll use to further their agenda.
Yet another active shooter in a gun free zone.
Yet another case of SWAT assembling outside and waiting for reinforcements while the shooter does his thing.
When will they learn?
Yea, all these restrictive laws and gun free zones really enhance safety in the workplace. /sarc?
And the shooters Name?
It seems that they will only kick in the door and shoot you and your dog if they believe that you are not a threat to them. The exception, of course, is the recent Oakland shooting where the SWAT team stormed an apartment with (I believe) the intent of executing a cop killer.
Jivery Voong (No shit!!)
SWAT will be willing to intercede when it becomes PC to do so. Right now, you have to check the political standing of the shooter before making that decision. Remember, they are part of the government, not citizens acting in your best interest.
SWATs roll is to protect the police. Everyone should remember that. If anyone is ever in my kids school, the cops will have to shoot me in the back, because I’m going in the moment I arrive.
The truth is that not every security officer will value your life as much as he does his own. Columbine wasn't the first instance of cops standing by while a massacre was being carried out, and it sure as heck won't be the last. This is why it's better for people to protect themselves with firearms rather than rely 100% on the cops to do so. Because when your instinct for self-preservation will always be stronger than a cop's instinct to rush into the unknown at the risk of his own life.
Don’t tell me another gun went on a rampage! And then the gun executed the person who was transporting the gun from place to place. When are ever going to get rid of these evil guns. Not all guns mind you, just the evil ones. You know, the ones owned by conservatives.
NY1 in NYC reported that a Vietnamese interpreter had been called to the scene. What the shooter an American citizen? An illegal?
The liberals don't want to fight them, "over there."
I may be wrong, but it seems like alot more of these incidents happen under RAT Presidents.
I keep waiting for the “Assault Rifle” thing to pop up.
Then they sit outside while people get slaughtered.
Thanks SWAT. You guys are real heroes.
Fox: Voong had just been layed off by IBM.
And had the SF police pursued that cop killer will exactly the same resources and fervor with which they would pursue the murder of say Joe Blow, there would be two more swat officers still alive today.
give it till abcnbcseebs nightly news tonight
I read it was a 9mm. Of course, it doesn’t really matter, as whatever type of gun he used will be classified as an “assault weapon”.
I keep waiting for the Assault Rifle thing to pop up.”
“I think “high-powered” means deer rifle to them. Maybe a .270 or .30-06 bolt action. If they could pin it on an evil assault rifle, I am sure they would.
I know this was a gun free zone but do we really want those inside to be armed?
Liberals, Gov’t workers, social workers, illegals.
I don’t think guns in this case in that building would have helped.
Is this a hoax? Why didnt anyone SHOOT BACK?
How very conveeeeenient.
And yes, I DO have my tin foil hat on.
Seems like anything more dangerous than a drooling lab gives these guys the shakes.
Statistics show that that is the best way to save lives. The minute most active shooters are confronted with armed force most of them commit suicide.
They were really hoping for a tubby white racist.
Well, I for one never consideredf that, yet .. I think you're right.
Now THAT puts a little extra logistics to any modern day Lexington Green.
FoxNews (Cavuto) just reported that the gunman was a laid-off IBM employee.
I couldn't agree more.
Jiverly Voong, 41, also known as Linh Phat Voong, of Johnson City, N.Y.
I briefly listened to Neil Cavuto a few minutes ago, and thought I heard him say that the perp was able to gain entrance by unlocking the back door. Did anyone else hear that?
But why go after immigrants?
Just a guess.
As I said, I do not know why the government is bringing in so many third world immigrants especially muslims. There are no (ZERO) jobs here in upstate New York. There never has been any. All of these âimmigrantsâ are on WELFARE or they are in jobs subsidized by the government thereby doing Americans out of the jobs. There are thousands of muslims now in Utica and they are starting to build mosques all over the place. It is very upsetting and frightening to me.
If so, then things have gone full circle.
Maybe he was fired from IBM because his work papers had expired or weren't in order. Or was he a citizen? I hadn't heard that he was or wasn't. I thought IBM was laying people off. I wonder if there was a problem with him being here legally and that's why he went there.
Right now there is a populist backlash growing within IBM because it is believed that IBM is getting rid of US employees and sending their jobs offshore.
This may be a case of a populist backlash actually leading to violence. Maybe this will take the starch out of some of the folks who are using populism to further their egenda...because by doing so they are creating hate.
They see the US as a failure and are seeking to remake it. Unfortunately, there are dramatic consequences to this kind of social engineering, as is possibly the case here.
As I watched the live coverage of this at noon central today, the obvious solution to so many of these shooting sprees again came to mind,,,,one good decent armed citizen could have taken that killer out, just one good man or woman with a concealed carry weapon could have saved all or most of those lost innocent lives. Those poor souls were sitting ducks, as all gun toting criminalsl know, easy pickings for killers. We all know the solution, yet the governments of most states will not stop persecuting law abiding gun owners who want to be able to legally conceal carry. One good armed citizen in there, would have kept those innocent souls on earth, now they are gone. The press will vilify the gun. They should vilify the liberal gun grabbers who make only the criminals safe, and the innocent as lambs at the slaughter. Prayers for all the victim’s families and friends. What a horrible horrible crime.
THIS is why I don’t get the whole terrorist business. This is ONE guy and look what he could do. We all know it is very feasible to have hundreds of these same type who have gotten in this country across southern or northern borders.
Yet we see nothing....except video of them running around in the desert playing bad guys.
Not only that...a martyr is a martyr. Infect one with something biological and let them go shopping in a big mall in a big city.
Yet we see nothing.
WHAT are they waiting for and WHO is pushing their buttons?
I just don’t get the logic of it.
BUT, ACCORDING TO DIANE FINESWINE, BABS BOXER, CHUCKY SCHUMER, ET AL OOOOO GUNS ARE SOOOO DANGEROUS!! In what may be a perverse form of population control, these MORONS many of whom are themselves armed or have armed people around them -- would prefer us to have to call 911 and DIE while the cops are en-route.
WHY THEY WANT OUR GUNS!!
According to the latest news, the suspect was a fired IBM worker. He killed people taking citizenship classes.
IBM uses H-1B visas.
Coincidence??? Or just a nut job???
Recently, I was talking to a Russian immigrant woman and she was telling me that her husband was given an engineering job and was building a beautiful new home on 10 acres of land. Must be nice to have government put its arms around you.
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