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Binghamton Rampage Leaves 14 Dead, 26 Wounded (9 mm, .45 cal. & a refugee from communism)
ABC News ^ | April 3, 2009 | NA

Posted on 04/03/2009 3:06:49 PM PDT by neverdem

(Binghamton, N.Y. / ABC News) -- As many as 13 people have been shot dead and wounded dozens in a shooting rampage inside an upstate New York civic association building that caters to immigrants, according to federal and state authorities.

The gunman, Jiverly Voong, allegedly held dozens of people hostage for several hours before shooting himself to death, police said.

According to multiple state law enforcement officials, the gunman entered the one-story American Civic Association in downtown Binghamton about 10 a.m. today and began his shooting spree.

A senior law enforcement official told ABC News that 13 people were shot dead and 26 were wounded.

Officials said Voong entered the civic association armed with two heavy caliber automatic pistols -- a 9 mm and a .45 caliber handgun. He carried a bag filled with high capacity magazines, a survival knife and a flashlight, according to police.

Voong backed his car up to the rear door of the building to block any escape before he went to the front of the building and started to execute people, police said.

Voong, 41, also known as Linh Phat Voong, was from Johnson City, N.Y. He allegedly burst into the civic center wearing a bright green nylon jacket and dark-rimmed glasses and promptly shot the receptionist dead and then killed two other people. He then headed for another room of the civic association and opened fire again.

When the carnage was over, Voong's body was found on first the floor with a hunting knife jammed into the waistband of his pants.

"He shot those people? No. No," said a woman who identified herself as Voong's sister, but would not give her name when reached by ABC News.com.

She said her brother went to take classes today at the civic association and that she had not heard from him since. She said she did not know that he was involved in the shooting.

"I'm going to pass out," she said and hung up the phone.

Police also contacted Voong's sister to say her brother was dead. She told police that Voong was attending language classes at the civic center. She said Voong is a U.S. citizen and has been in this country for 28 years.

Voong had recently been laid off from IBM in Johnson City, U.S. Rep. Maurice Hinchey, a Democrat whose district includes Binghamton, told the Associated Press. The gunman opened fire on a citizenship class, he said.

"People were there in the process of being tested for their citizenship," Hinchey said. "It was in the middle of a test. He just went in and opened fire."

Several hours after the shooting began, hostages started exiting the building and police declared the gunman dead.

By 1:30 p.m., police began escorting people out of the building, but continued to treat the building as a crime scene where the shooter might still be lurking.

Eyewitness Account Eyewitness Nick Masucci, a community college student and Binghamton resident, said he watched as many as 20 people exit the building and get patted down by police.

"They look like immigrants, lots of different cultures coming out of there. Some people are getting patted down. The police are taking a lot of precautions, they're still taking cover," he said.

Several people were removed from the building on stretchers. Others left with their hands on their heads and were searched by police.

City councilman Martin Gerchman said he recently returned from the scene and said it looked like the building was "secure."

Earlier today police called Broome Community College to find someone who could speak fluent Vietnamese to "assist police with translation," said college spokesman Richard David.

Police, he said, did not indicated whether the translator, Professor Tuong Nguyen, was needed to speak with the shooter or with hostages, but believed the professor would be talking with the shooter.

Wilson Medical Center, the closest hospital to the site of the shootings, said three patients had been sent to its trauma center, one of them in critical condition.

One patient, according to a spokeswoman, had been brought to Our Lady of Lourdes Hospital.

"We're on full alert anticipating we're going to get additional casualties," hospital spokeswoman Linda Miller said.

FBI Sent Hostage Negotiators People were told in nearby buildings to stay away from windows and Binghamton High School is under a lock-down as police are using the school as a staging area. The school is a block and a half away from the shooting site.

Ten ambulances were called to the scene and an FBI hostage rescue team is reportedly on the way.

"The FBI is providing assistance to the Binghamton Police Department," FBI spokesman Rich Kolko said. "FBI Albany has sent Hostage Negotiators, Evidence Response Team and Command Post assistance. This is a rapidly developing situation and we refer you to the Binghamton Police Department for any additional information."

The FBI and New York State Police sent hostage negotiators, evidence collection teams and investigators to support the efforts of the Binghamton police in securing the scene, collecting the evidence and guiding hostages and people who hid from the gunman to safety.

New York Gov. David Paterson said, "We are monitoring the situation and I have directed the State Police to assist the Binghamton Police Department in any way they can."

At the time of the shooting the civic association was holding citizenship classes.


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Linh is the surname. Voong is the bad transliteration of Vong(with a small question mark over the 'o') from Quoc Ngu, the name of the Vietnamese Alphabet which uses a bunch of diacritical marks to differentiate vowels. Quoc Ngu uses these diacritical marks with vowels something like English uses syllables. IIRC, most words in Quoc Ngu/Vietnamese are just one syllable. The spelling of a word can look almost the same except for the diacritical mark which changes the pronunciation and meaning.
1 posted on 04/03/2009 3:06:49 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem; yorkie

Prayers for the victims & their families


2 posted on 04/03/2009 3:10:16 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (Don't play leapfrog with a unicorn! ...........^............)
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To: neverdem

What a waste. What a waste.


3 posted on 04/03/2009 3:11:04 PM PDT by grace522 (your wallet is in jeopardy with democrats in office)
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To: pandoraou812

Yes, it has been a very sad day for so many. Prayers will continue.


4 posted on 04/03/2009 3:11:26 PM PDT by yorkie
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To: All

I updated the title, but I forgot to update the text. You might want to check the source for the latest update.


5 posted on 04/03/2009 3:11:50 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

The number of these rampages seems to be escalating. I guess they missed the memo about “hope” and “change”.


6 posted on 04/03/2009 3:12:16 PM PDT by Chet 99
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To: neverdem

So an immigrant US citizen of 28 years goes in and kills a bunch of new immigrants taking/practicing for their citizenship test after losing his job...

I wonder if he blamed the new arrivals for his job loss?


7 posted on 04/03/2009 3:13:03 PM PDT by icwhatudo
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To: neverdem

Jiverly was probably pissed off that his job was going back to India, while he was stuck in Bingo.


8 posted on 04/03/2009 3:13:27 PM PDT by pgobrien (Most economists almost unanimously agree...)
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To: neverdem

How very sad. Why did ABC news break the news to his family?


9 posted on 04/03/2009 3:14:01 PM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: neverdem
["Voong had recently been laid off...The gunman opened fire on a citizenship class, he said."]

An asshole taking revenge on society for his own failure as a human being.

We can be sure that Obama and the Democrats will use this -- and the other recent high-profile events -- as an excuse for more draconian "gun control" measures.

10 posted on 04/03/2009 3:14:46 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (What did Obama's Teleprompter know, and when did it know it...)
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To: neverdem
This Vong had lost face. Fired from his job, unable to pursue the American Dream, he likely snapped.

America turned into a mocking lie to him.Obviously he was isane.

But this is small potatoes, compared to what will happen when we have the political refugees from the Hamas controlled Gaza strip immigrating to America under the Obama plan.

Prayers up for those lost and their families, and most of all for the heroic secretary who put in the call that saved many lives, and who later passed away from wounds.

If there had been a guard with a gun there, or an armed citizen, this coould have been prevented or stopped early.

There is no such thing as a "gun free" zone.It us a myth of terrible proportions.

11 posted on 04/03/2009 3:14:52 PM PDT by Candor7 (The weapons of choice against fascism are ridicule, and derision. (member NRA)
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To: neverdem
"He carried a bag filled with high capacity magazines, a survival knife and a flashlight, according to police."

We must immediately enact legislation to outlaw flashlights.

12 posted on 04/03/2009 3:16:00 PM PDT by matt1234
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To: neverdem

Another American Terrorist.


13 posted on 04/03/2009 3:16:34 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: neverdem

If someone wants to commit suicide, they could at least have the decency to leave innocent people out of it. This is all so senseless.


14 posted on 04/03/2009 3:16:43 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We're All Garbage Dump Bears Now!)
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To: matt1234

They should outlaw bags containing rampage items like extra mags and knives


15 posted on 04/03/2009 3:17:25 PM PDT by omega4179 (Government Motor Corpse)
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To: icwhatudo
When I read about a U.S. citizen taking English classes after living in this country for 28 years, I find myself wondering if the guy knew that his prospects for employment were fading fast.

It's worth noting that this guy was something like 41 years old. So if he was living here for 28 years he arrived here when he was 13. And he still didn't speak English?

Something about this whole story seems odd.

16 posted on 04/03/2009 3:18:34 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: neverdem
heavy caliber pistols

I guess they needed some additional adjectives since no evil "automatic" assault weapon was found.
17 posted on 04/03/2009 3:18:36 PM PDT by IDRATHERNOT
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To: neverdem
Officials said Voong entered the civic association armed with two heavy caliber automatic pistols -- a 9 mm and a .45 caliber handgun. He carried a bag filled with high capacity magazines, a survival knife and a flashlight, according to police.

I see the press just couldn't help themselves with hyperbole and lies. Just what is a "heavy caliber"? Why would you bring a bag of "high capacity" magazines? He killed 14 people plus himself. With two pistols containing standard magazines, there was sufficient capacity with standard mags to do that. As for "automatic pistols"...I doubt it. Semi-automatic. The lying press is doing everything possible to help the anti-gun politicians set the stage for another gun ban.

18 posted on 04/03/2009 3:19:31 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: neverdem

On this sad day, Sarah Brady, Gov. Paterson, and all the other gun grabbers in the NY legislature are happily dancing in the blood of these victims of NY disarmament. And no doubt they are already drafting up new laws to disarm legal gunowners to create more victims in the future.


19 posted on 04/03/2009 3:19:33 PM PDT by GnL
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To: icwhatudo

Just speculating here but:

If he was 41 then he was born in 1968 in Vietnam. If his family fled towards the end of the war (1975) he was probably about 7. From personal experience, many refugees from Vietnam did not become citizens until 5 years after arrival (1980) which would come close to the timeline that he was a citizen for 28 years.


20 posted on 04/03/2009 3:20:03 PM PDT by icwhatudo
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To: armymarinemom
"How very sad. Why did ABC news break the news to his family?"

Because they have no scruples.

21 posted on 04/03/2009 3:20:54 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: matt1234
We must immediately enact legislation to outlaw flashlights.

Nope. It was the blackmarket bag that had all of the bad stuff inside. On the serious side, may all of these grieving families and friends find comfort and solace. I grieve for this once great nation as well.

22 posted on 04/03/2009 3:21:23 PM PDT by AH_LiveRight
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To: Candor7

But of course, IBM just couldn’t find anyone more talented for the role they offered, other than someone who was in the country 28 years, but was in ‘language’ class as late as this week.


23 posted on 04/03/2009 3:21:26 PM PDT by Swanks
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To: Alberta's Child

(ooops, sent it to myself, here it is again to you)

Just speculating here but:

If he was 41 then he was born in 1968 in Vietnam. If his family fled towards the end of the war (1975) he was probably about 7. From personal experience, many refugees from Vietnam did not become citizens until 5 years after arrival (1980) which would come close to the timeline that he was a citizen for 28 years.


24 posted on 04/03/2009 3:21:33 PM PDT by icwhatudo
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To: neverdem

She said Voong is a U.S. citizen and has been in this country for 28 years.

And he still needed language classes? I don’t get it.


25 posted on 04/03/2009 3:21:40 PM PDT by IM2MAD
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To: neverdem
Man caused disaster?

:-\

26 posted on 04/03/2009 3:23:42 PM PDT by Does so ( I called it right on Perot: The 0bama will quit before 6 months are up.)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...
Linh Phat Voong, was from Johnson City, N.Y... said a woman who identified herself as Voong's sister... her brother went to take classes today at the civic association and that she had not heard from him since. She said she did not know that he was involved in the shooting... Police also contacted Voong's sister to say her brother was dead. She told police that Voong was attending language classes at the civic center. She said Voong is a U.S. citizen and has been in this country for 28 years. Voong had recently been laid off from IBM in Johnson City, U.S. Rep. Maurice Hinchey, a Democrat whose district includes Binghamton, told the Associated Press. The gunman opened fire on a citizenship class, he said. "People were there in the process of being tested for their citizenship," Hinchey said. "It was in the middle of a test. He just went in and opened fire."

27 posted on 04/03/2009 3:23:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: icwhatudo

Unfortunately, Fox News had some “experts” that were talking about how the loss of a job could cause people to do this. I had to turn of Cavuto, I was getting so sick of it. Everyone is so quick to find excuses for horrific behavior.

This is awful for the victims and their families.


28 posted on 04/03/2009 3:24:37 PM PDT by Sir Clancelot
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To: neverdem

How does an IBM employee not have a public photo?


29 posted on 04/03/2009 3:26:03 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: neverdem
Voong had recently been laid off from IBM in Johnson City

Is there an IBM in Johnson City now? IBM had been in Endicott and had their country club in Endwell/Johnson City.
30 posted on 04/03/2009 3:26:41 PM PDT by weef
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To: Candor7; FlingWingFlyer; Rudder
This Vong had lost face. Fired from his job, unable to pursue the American Dream, he likely snapped.

America turned into a mocking lie to him. Obviously he was isane.

Suicide is one thing. What's the reason for homicide? Rule out prescription antidepressants, IMHO.

31 posted on 04/03/2009 3:26:57 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem
Instead of looking at the root of this the Democratic controlled NY legislature will have the typical knee jerk reaction to create more gun control. When they first announced the shooting it was a high powered rifle nows its a 9mm and 45 hand gun. Read between the lines folks its all control. Yes its a tragic senseless thing but this type of stuff is whipped up in a media frenzy which give legitimacy to these nut cases. We need to stay focused and look at the root cause of these sprees. We also need to quit making laws that are never enforced.
32 posted on 04/03/2009 3:27:00 PM PDT by rstark56
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To: icwhatudo

Ever notice how these types of things always rise when there is a Rat in the White House?


33 posted on 04/03/2009 3:27:47 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is the belief that most people are better off if everyone was equally poor and miserable.)
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To: neverdem

So the guy’s name was reported wrong, the kind of weapons was reported wrong... what else?

A good example of why not to take breaking news at face value. They pretty much always get stuff wrong, and sometimes it stays that way.


34 posted on 04/03/2009 3:28:31 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: weef

That plant has been closed for a number of years now in Endicott and I don’t remember any other IBM plant being there.


35 posted on 04/03/2009 3:28:59 PM PDT by rstark56
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To: armymarinemom
How very sad. Why did ABC news break the news to his family?

Very cruel. I know these guys; after breaking the news, they probably went on to ask, "how does it feel, that your brother murdered 16 innocent immigrants"? Or something like that. ABC = Absolutely Bad Class

36 posted on 04/03/2009 3:30:04 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: neverdem

This is very sad.

Not much more to say.


37 posted on 04/03/2009 3:30:44 PM PDT by angkor
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To: Alberta's Child

Your idea, if true, that he was still going to English classes after all these years is interesting. That would mean he would have isolated himself in just the type of “Balkanized” country we don’t want to be.

The timelines are almost identical to my wifes (also a refugee from Vietnam) but she grew up in a regular community and speaks English with no accent at all. A few of her relatives that live in California have so isolated themselves that they can not function in an English only environment. The ones who have adopted pure English are all successful.


38 posted on 04/03/2009 3:31:02 PM PDT by icwhatudo
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To: neverdem

Sounds like the victims were real immigrants who were trying to do things the right way, learning English and applying for citizenship. Very sad.

Kudos to the reporter, for
such a detailed story.

I feel like I know more about the killer’s background, from this one article, than I learned about our President’s, from 2 years of MSM campaign coverage.


39 posted on 04/03/2009 3:31:31 PM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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To: rstark56

Notice they said he had a “bag filled with high capacity magazines”.

High capacity magazines? I don’t think so. I wonder what the reporter thinks that means. When reporters use that term they’re usually doing a story on “assault rifles” with mags of 30 or more.


40 posted on 04/03/2009 3:32:19 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: weef

I stand corrected must be a very few left working at IBM

3 work groups at IBM Endicott are at risk for layoffs.

That’s according to Lee Conrad from the employee advocate group, Alliance at IBM.

Big Blue plans to layoff 5-thousand U.S. Employees today.

IBM headquarters has not responded to calls about whether there are cuts at the Endicott site.

Conrad says Alliance has been told layoffs are taking place in Global Business Services, Systems Technology Group, and Global Technology Services.

“We are hearing that these jobs will be eliminated here in the United States and the work shifted to India, China, Asia-Pacific and Latin America.” says Conrad.

Conrad says he’s outraged to see IBM shipping jobs overseas.

The company employs about 400-thousand workers worldwide.

About 1200 here in Endicott.

Again, IBM has not commented on any local layoffs.


41 posted on 04/03/2009 3:32:58 PM PDT by rstark56
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To: matt1234
He carried a bag filled with high capacity magazines, a survival knife and a flashlight, according to police."

We must immediately enact legislation to outlaw flashlights.

And bags. Don't forget the bags.

42 posted on 04/03/2009 3:33:05 PM PDT by bill1952 (Power is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: pgobrien
Jiverly was probably pissed off that his job was going back to India, while he was stuck in Bingo

I think this is the reason too.....

43 posted on 04/03/2009 3:34:17 PM PDT by Fawn (http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=v8320y&s=5)
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To: weef

Maybe it was the shooter who lived in Johnson City and it’s the reporter who can’t write. Has been known to happen. /sarc


44 posted on 04/03/2009 3:34:18 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath
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To: icwhatudo
Just speculating here but:[...] If he was 41 then he was born in 1968 in Vietnam. If his family fled towards the end of the war (1975) he was probably about 7. From personal experience, many refugees from Vietnam did not become citizens until 5 years after arrival (1980) which would come close to the timeline that he was a citizen for 28 years.

Could also be Hmong, and have come here in just the last few years. Just speculation here, too.

45 posted on 04/03/2009 3:34:56 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

“We can be sure that Obama and the Democrats will use this — and the other recent high-profile events — as an excuse for more draconian “gun control” measures.”

Oh yes they will. Why “waste a crisis” huh? Blood Dancers.


46 posted on 04/03/2009 3:36:04 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: GnL
"On this sad day, Sarah Brady, Gov. Paterson, and all the other gun grabbers in the NY legislature are happily dancing in the blood of these victims of NY disarmament. "

Sadly, I seem to be using this graphic quite frequently since ZeroHussein took over our White House...

47 posted on 04/03/2009 3:36:23 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: GnL

That was my first thought when I heard Gov Paterson talking about the Alabama and Oakland shootings. The gun grabbers are going to use these shootings to increase their power over us even more.


48 posted on 04/03/2009 3:36:42 PM PDT by DFG
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To: Ramius

Not sure how he could “come here in just the last few years” and be a citizen for 28 years. Did the Hmong get citizenship even though they did not live in US?


49 posted on 04/03/2009 3:37:04 PM PDT by icwhatudo
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Is April the King of shootings month or what. All these bad shootings always happen in April. Is it the dreary weather, Patriot’s Day on the 19th, Hitler’s birthday, Earth Day, what?


50 posted on 04/03/2009 3:37:22 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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