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Taliban Chief Claims Responsibility for N.Y. Shooting Massacre
FOX NEWS ^ | 4-4-2009 | Foxnews

Posted on 04/04/2009 3:18:28 AM PDT by Westlander

A Pakistani Taliban militant leader has claimed responsibility for the attack on a U.S. immigration center in New York state in which 13 people were killed, Reuters reported.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: binghamton; jihadinamerica; massshooting; mehsud; newyork; shooting; taliban
True?
1 posted on 04/04/2009 3:18:28 AM PDT by Westlander
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To: Westlander

I dunno, in many of the pictures from NY there are a lot of people wearing the headscarves. Makes me think there may be a high percentage of muslims in that center. Why would they come over here to attack muslims?

Besides I would think they would go for a higher profile target and not a community center type place.


3 posted on 04/04/2009 3:24:33 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Westlander

Doubt it. The shooter was a recently fired IBM employee from Viet Nam.


5 posted on 04/04/2009 3:27:45 AM PDT by DGHoodini (God's gonna getcha!)
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To: driftdiver
There's no logic to this, after all. Some of them are just confused.


6 posted on 04/04/2009 3:28:01 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Now is zee time on Schprockets ven ve dance!)
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To: Westlander

Really? If true, it’s a bad sign; I always wondered if they’d start small-scale stuff like car bombings or shooting massacres. But it’s hard to know whether this is true or not.

I wonder how the press/open-borders crowd will spin this, if true.


7 posted on 04/04/2009 3:28:04 AM PDT by Rob the Ugly Dude
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To: Westlander

Sounds plausible.

Psychotic breakdown = Taliban.

Satanic possession = Taliban.

However in this case it’s unlikely that the Vietnamese refugee was Taliban or any other Islamic nutjob, no matter how responsible Islam may be for much of the worlds hateful, psychotic, and purely evil behavior.


8 posted on 04/04/2009 3:28:54 AM PDT by angkor
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To: All

OPINION:

What’s in this jihadi’s drinking water?

He said, “They were my men.”

Apparently, only 1 guy did the shooting and he’s dead.


9 posted on 04/04/2009 3:29:09 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: ovrtaxt

That guy is NOT confused. He knows exactly what he’s doing.


10 posted on 04/04/2009 3:29:37 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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To: All
RECAP:

NY DAILY NEWS.com: "WHO IS JIVERLY VOONG AKA JIVERLY WONG? Conflicting picture of Binghamton gunman emerges" (April 4, 2009, 4:00 am) (Read More...)

ABC NEWS: "BINGHAMTON RAMPAGE LEAVES 14 DEAD, Police Don't Know Motive" (April 3, 2009) (Read More...)

11 posted on 04/04/2009 3:29:45 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy

From the comments on that first link

“Don’t be surprised that this guy may very well been a psuedo fan of the Hannity’s,Dobbs’, Limbaughs’ and O’reillys’ of the world. For all of their Anti-immigrant, homophobic, boderline racist nightly rantings on tv, these are the kind of Lunatics that they attract. I don’t suggest that those jokers condone this after all they will put their own anti-immigrant spin on this but the blood of the victims is on their hands too.”

And here I always thought it was the fascists who killed people wholesale and not religious conservatives.


12 posted on 04/04/2009 3:39:38 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Rob the Ugly Dude

“I always wondered if they’d start small-scale stuff like car bombings or shooting massacres”

Not IF, WHEN.

And thats why I don’t think this is a taliban effort. They would send a suicide bomber to a mall.


13 posted on 04/04/2009 3:40:31 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Westlander

I’m sure the story that the sheethead claimed responsibility is true but I doubt the claim is even remotely true.

[Sorta like the Africa Free Press does...]


14 posted on 04/04/2009 3:40:38 AM PDT by Adder (Proudly ignoring Zero's political stylings since 1-20-09!)
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To: A Navy Vet

This Tallibon dude can claim he is the Easter Bunny...it does not make it true.

I just got in off the road (3am PST)and the last radio report (fictoinal or not) was that the perp was embarressed and felt he was being mocked after he was fired.

We dont know the truth yet folks.


15 posted on 04/04/2009 3:43:08 AM PDT by Global2010 (Catholics Come HomeAddress:http://www.catholicscomehome.org/about-us.phtml)
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To: Cindy
Mahmoon Shafi, 53, said he fixed Voong's boiler and water heater late last year, and remembers him as a troubled man. "He was a very nice guy, but he seemed very, very depressed," said Shafi. Voong often mentioned that his wife and kids had left him, Shafi said. "He once said to me, 'I did everything good for everybody, but nobody ever did anything good for me.'"

Maybe Mahmood did something "good" for him and gave him a Koran? Would they report it? hmmm
16 posted on 04/04/2009 3:45:13 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: ovrtaxt

I was always in favor of death for OJ as well.


17 posted on 04/04/2009 3:46:42 AM PDT by GnL
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To: Westlander

By the way, Obama’s trying to push immigration from Gaza:

http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerkimball/www.thefederalregister.com/d.p/2009-02-04-E9-2488


18 posted on 04/04/2009 3:47:45 AM PDT by Rob the Ugly Dude
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To: ovrtaxt

Simpson’s not going to be happy about this one. THE UNEDUCATED are dangerous


19 posted on 04/04/2009 3:53:12 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC!)
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To: driftdiver
Makes me think there may be a high percentage of muslims in that center. Why would they come over here to attack muslims?

"Representative Maurice Hinchey, whose district includes Binghamton, told the New York Times that indications are the gunman was an immigrant from Vietnam."

20 posted on 04/04/2009 3:57:52 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: Cindy

Thanks for that NY Daily News link link. The Tellys are blowing smoke It seems this guy had mental problems he may have tried to get help but usually in these situations family members are reluctant to go through the courts and have a family member committed and I’ll bet thats what happened with very tragic results.


21 posted on 04/04/2009 4:01:52 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (2010 One year to a new census and congressional redistricting, we need a strong hand in the House)
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To: Westlander
True?

I have no doubt he said it. At the same time, he's probably as responsible for the massacre as he is for my ingrown toenail. The guy's either making fun of us or he's trying to increase his profile for fund-raising purposes (the devout donate more if you manage to rack up a high infidel body count). Outside of Islamist fanatic circles, the guy is going to come off as a clown.

22 posted on 04/04/2009 4:03:26 AM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: R. Scott

Right, I didn’t think he was a muslim although its possible.


23 posted on 04/04/2009 4:07:31 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Anything’s possible, but the Vietnamese I know are either hard core Catholic or Buddhist. Some of the younger ones - born here - have lost that religious connection (note the street gangs) and may have converted to Islam as an act of adolescent rebellion.


24 posted on 04/04/2009 4:27:47 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: Westlander
It could be... the gooberment and their propaganda machine would never let the truth about anything out. iranian student kills many with a car... innocent act of violence... a bin ladin acolyte kills himself outside of a football game and his apartment is found to be a shrine to bin laden and full of weapons... innocent act of an insane student... Virginia tech... must I go on?

LLS

25 posted on 04/04/2009 4:35:51 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my President... NEVER!!!)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

I think that you are on to something.

LLS


26 posted on 04/04/2009 4:37:44 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my President... NEVER!!!)
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To: Westlander

There seems to be something very Wong about the Taliban Chief’s claim


27 posted on 04/04/2009 4:38:41 AM PDT by hflynn ( The One is really The Number Two)
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To: Westlander
"True?"

Nope, there are many reasons to discount this banter, so many it's not even worth listing them.

28 posted on 04/04/2009 4:40:59 AM PDT by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: Westlander

I suppose OThuga will mutter something like

“tsk tsk”

in public

while hi-5-ing and kissing rings of fellow Moose limbs in private?


29 posted on 04/04/2009 4:42:02 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: angkor

I think you’re likely right.

However . . .

The oligarchy is . . . thoroughly in control of . . . certain companies.

and

The oligarchy is quite skilled at winding all kinds of folks up to do dirty deeds then turning them loose.

Given the evidence, I think you are likely quite right about this case.

However, . . . in this era . . . lots of things are not always what they seem—in any direction one wants to consider.


30 posted on 04/04/2009 4:44:34 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: driftdiver

You think there were no Muslims in the Pentagon or the World Trade Centers on 9/11? Don’t kid yourself, Islam gladly butchers its own for what it perceives its own benefits. Applying Judeo/Christian values to Wahabbist Islamists is just flat out naive and stupid.

I’m not saying that this attack was driven by the Taliban, but don’t think for one minute that simply because there may be muslims among the victims that it can’t be true.


31 posted on 04/04/2009 4:46:30 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Global2010

Have you tried to

PICTURE

a combination of

THE EASTER BUNNY

and

a RABIDLY CRAZED WILD EYED JIHADI?

I hope someone photoshops such an image.

Great Guffaws in the contemplation.

Sort of combines their wussy intellectual skills on the bunny side . . . with their ruthless deadliness on the Jihadi side.


32 posted on 04/04/2009 4:47:32 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Westlander

Just remember, Islamberg is only a few miles from the Massacre site.


33 posted on 04/04/2009 5:12:31 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (To stand up for Capitalism is to hope Teleprompter Boy fails.)
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To: Westlander
Initial reports suggested Voong had recently been let go from IBM, which was started in Binghamton. But a person at IBM said there was no record of a Jiverly Voong ever working at the company.

(snip)

Friday evening, police who searched the suspected gunman's home carried out three computer hard drives, a brown canvas rifle case, a briefcase, a small suitcase and several paper bags.

A woman who answered the phone at a listing for Henry D. Voong said she was Jiverly Voong's sister but would not give her name. She said her brother had been in the country for 28 years and had citizenship. She said he didn't have a gun and suspected someone else shot her brother.


http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_12068204?source=rss
34 posted on 04/04/2009 5:50:24 AM PDT by combat_boots (The answer to 1984 is 1776)
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To: BuffaloJack

“Just remember, Islamberg is only a few miles from the Massacre site.”

“Now that I didn’t know.” (From “Eraser”).

May 12, 2007
Islamberg, New York: “You can hear gunfire up there. I can’t understand why the FBI won’t shut it down” Paul Williams

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/016411.php


35 posted on 04/04/2009 5:59:25 AM PDT by combat_boots (The answer to 1984 is 1776)
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To: BuffaloJack

Also the jihidis up in Buffalo who were on trial recently. I wouldn’t dismiss this out of hand as a lone nut. Something not right about this story. We may learn more from information on his several computers.


36 posted on 04/04/2009 6:03:20 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: Westlander; M. Espinola
Google News is Still Wondering What Happened

Look at all the mainstream news reports speculating about why the shooting happened.

What I want to know is why this Vietnamese immigrant qualified for a concealed gun permit in New York. I heard a radio host talking about this issue in detail last night. Long time NY residents cannot get gun permits. Who did this man know with major clout and why was he allowed to carry a gun?

Perhaps the Talibunnies brided an official in NY? Perhaps they kidnapped his girl friend and demanded he kill a few immigrants. I've seen photos of Binghamton with dozens of people dressed like Islamics. Are there a lot of illegal immigrants with Arab roots living there _______ ?

The mainstream media is out to lunch. Obama wants to reach out to the Talibunnies. Thus the MSM will not report this story as news until the source has multiple confirmations.

Taliban Chief Claims Responsibility for N.Y. Shooting Massacre


Scene of Shooting Massacre in Binghampton, New York

Taliban Chief Claims Responsibility for N.Y. Shooting Massacre

37 posted on 04/04/2009 6:04:58 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: driftdiver

While I agree they’d want to send a bomber to a mall, if they can’t get C4 but can get hands on a rifle, thet’s fine with them. Hell, in Israel they use whatever’s handy, an axe, a truck, whatever.


38 posted on 04/04/2009 6:05:18 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll)
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To: theDentist

Look at Mumbai. That started as a hostage situation.


39 posted on 04/04/2009 6:06:28 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: jersey117

Map between Deposit & Binghamton:

http://www.mapquest.com/maps?city=Deposit&state=NY


40 posted on 04/04/2009 6:12:13 AM PDT by combat_boots (The answer to 1984 is 1776)
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To: Westlander

I would not be surprised to hear that family members suddenly had an increase in the bank accounts recently.

AQ has used the tactic of recruiting certain types of individuals to perform certain acts with promised rewards such as monies to family members.

Its easy to recruit by the internet for AQ, just lurk awhile and start asking around, find persons that are prime candidates, turn the individual into a weapon.

Its no wonder Obama wants to pull the plug on the internet.

Vigilance starts here folks, the enemy could very well be right HERE.

It lurks. Be strong, be vigilant. Its a warzone now.


41 posted on 04/04/2009 6:12:54 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: Westlander; M. Espinola
Photo Slide Show Showing Muslims in Binghampton

But that info is not 'politically correct.' And because Obama wants to embrace the Taliban, the media are not going to investigate this issue.

I feel better already . . . LOL, LOL

42 posted on 04/04/2009 6:16:40 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: ex-Texan

Interesting. If the guy was a convert, the media will never say.


43 posted on 04/04/2009 6:20:06 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: combat_boots

A very direct route.


44 posted on 04/04/2009 6:20:39 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: Westlander

One technique used by terrorist groups is to

1) claim they are responsible for an act when they really aren’t and

2) a group that is responsible will claim membership in a terrorist group, even though they have never had any previous contact with said group

Both give an appearance of terrorist groups being wide spread and well organized when, in fact, they may be neither

Do I know for sure about yesterday’s attack - No!! But if seems really unlikely that a vietnamese IBM ex-employee is connected to Pakistani terrorist.


45 posted on 04/04/2009 6:58:04 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: Westlander

Strange to me that the only identified weapons were a .45, 9mm and a “hunting” knife. The rifle description has yet to be released, maybe some good FReeper can set me straight on this. My guess is that it was NOT an evil “black rifle with a pistol grip (gasp!)”.

If it turns out that it was a bolt action “deer rifle” my question is still why doesn’t anyone rush these idiots??!! It’s mindset and we have been successfully programmed to not resist, do whatever the perp commands, be obedient. Not making light here at all, just very frustrated.

Yet, we do have outstanding examples of ordinary citizens taking action against violent criminals, the first section of American Rifleman I alway read is the armed citizen section. I’m always humbled and amazed at how quick thinking they elder citizens are, many in their 80s and some in their 90s, now THOSE are good examples!


46 posted on 04/04/2009 7:51:04 AM PDT by brushcop (SFC Sallie, CPL Long, LTHarris, SSG Brown, PVT Simmons KIA OIF lll&V, they died for you, honor them)
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To: brushcop

We keep hearing about a “satchel” full of ammunition around the perp’s neck, but I’ve yet to read anything about a gun found in his hand, which is the inevitable result of a suicide.

And why were the police so guarded yesterday in their comments, saying only that they had “good reason” to believe he was the gunman, but could not guarantee it 100% (those comments were from the press conference yesterday, I recall).

His sister apparently believes he was not the gunman, but was shot to death.
I’d like to know what was on those three computers removed from his residence.


47 posted on 04/04/2009 9:08:22 AM PDT by Deo volente
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To: KosmicKitty
But if seems really unlikely that a vietnamese IBM ex-employee is connected to Pakistani terrorist.

It didn't seem very likely that a teen from Marin County California would be picked up on a battlefield in Afghanistan either. Or that a Puerto Rican from Chicago planned to set off a dirty bomb. There are plenty of Muslim converts in this country.

48 posted on 04/04/2009 10:52:37 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: Westlander

Could be. See http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1994613/posts.

There evidently are a lot of them in the area and the perp may have gotten connection to them somehow.


49 posted on 04/04/2009 2:11:59 PM PDT by Bookwoman ("...and I am unanimous in this..")
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