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Binghamton Bloodbath: 14 Dead in Citizenship Massacre ( "I Don't Like America. America Sucks." )
nbcnewyork.com ^ | 4/4/9 | DANIEL MACHT, CAITLIN MILLAT and TAMER EL-GHOBASHY

Posted on 04/04/2009 8:29:31 AM PDT by bimboeruption

A portrait of an angry, isolated man is beginning to emerge of Jiverly Wong, the shooter who is believed to have killed 13 victims before turning the gun on himself at a civic center for new immigrants in Binghamton, New York on Friday.

Voong was the "kind of guy who would come in mad one day and shoot people," said Kevin Greene, who described himself as a former co-worker of the alleged shooter at a Shop Vac assembly plant that had since closed, the New York Daily News reported.

A string of attacks in the U.S. in the last month left 44 people dead in all.

A gunman killed 10 people and himself in Samson, Ala.; shootings that began with a traffic stop in Oakland, Calif., left four police officers and the gunman dead; an apparent murder-suicide in Santa Clara, Calif., left six dead; and a gunman went on a rampage at a nursing home Sunday, killing seven elderly residents and a nurse who cared for them.

Greene said that he had asked Voong -- who he knew as Jiverly Wong -- whether he liked the New York Yankees.

"He said, 'No, I don't like that team. I don't like America. America sucks," Greene said, adding that Voong's penchant for guns was well known and that the alleged killer often practiced shooting at range.

On Saturday, Binghamton's Police Chief Joseph Zikuski told NBC's "Today'' show that people "degraded and disrespected'' the gunman -- believed to be a Vietnamese immigrant -- over his poor English. Mayor Matthew Ryan told ABC's "Good Morning America'' he was angry about his language issues and his lack of employment.

An 'act of senseless violence'

The 42-year-old gunman shot himself to death after the bloody rampage that critically wounded four others and shattered the peace of a small business center in downtown Binghamton, sending shockwaves as far as Europe, where President Barack Obama called it an "act of senseless violence."

Obama, speaking from Germany, said he and Michelle Obama were praying for the victims and their families.

Closer to home, the New York Governor expressed "outrage" over what he called "the worst tragedy and senseless crime in the history of this city."

"I speak for all of New York when I offer my prayers for the victims and families of this tragedy," New York Gov. David Paterson said hours after the bloodbath that was meticulously planned and executed.

Police sources said they believe the killer to be Jiverly Voong, 42, of Johnson City, N.Y., who was found dead in an office of the American Civic Association, apparently of a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

"It was just panic," said Alex Galkin, an immigrant from Uzbekistan, who was taking English classes when the shots rang out. He ran to the basement with a group of people to escape the chaos.

Sources said Jiverly is an alias that the suspect has used in the past. Cops searched his home Friday evening and carried out evidence that included three computer hard drives, a brown canvas rifle case, a briefcase, a small suitcase and several paper bags.

"Among the dead is a male victim who has a satchel around his neck that has ammunition," said Binghamton Police Chief Joe Zikuski. "We have very good reason to believe that the shooter is among the dead. We have no idea what the motive is."

Zikuski said the dead suspect was "known" to the center. Rep. Maurice Hinchey said the gunman had recently been let go from a job at IBM but NBCnewyork has learned that Voong had never worked at the computer giant.

Law enforcement sources said it wasn't clear what sparked the massacre.

A woman who identified herself as Jiverly Voong's sister said she did not think he was the shooter and insisted he may have been a victim.

"He didn't have a gun. I think somebody involved, not him. I think he got shot by somebody else," said the woman, who refused to give her name. "I think there's a misunderstanding over here because I want to know, too."

As authorities worked to identify the victims, they offered few details on how the killer executed his deadly plan.

Before his rampage, the shooter pulled a car up to the back door of the facility at about 10:30 a.m. to block a key escape route. He then entered the building through the front door.

"It obviously was premeditated. He was making sure nobody could escape," Zikuski said.

The hero receptionist

The shooter first wounded two receptionists, a male and a female, at the center's front desk. The female, now in critical condition, pretended she was dead to fool the shooter, then ducked underneath her desk to make the 911 call that alerted police.

Zikuski, the police chief, said she stayed on the phone for 90 minutes, "feeding us information constantly," despite a serious wound in the abdomen.

"She's a hero in her own right," he said.

The other receptionist died from gunshot wounds, Zikuski said.

The shooter then entered an adjacent room, where dozens of potential citizens were gathered to take an exam, and continued to fire . Most of the test-takers could barely speak English, Zikuski said.

Police showed up within two minutes of the receptionist's call - and about a minute after cops arrived, the shooting stopped. Officers were in constant contact with those inside the building, instructing them on how to build barricades to keep the shooter out.

SWAT teams spent several hours clearing the building and escorted dozens of people out safely, Zikuski said. Cops also rescued 26 visitors who had locked themselves in the basement of the center.

Zikuski said officials don't know how many bullets were fired or how long the gunman shot, but that they'll continue to question survivors for information about the shooting.

Officers recovered two handguns from the scene, Zikuski said.

"An examination was being given for...immigrants to become Americans," Vice President Joe Biden said. "I ask you to keep these folks in your prayers. We've got to figure out a way to deal with this senseless, senseless violence."

Center staff 'stricken with grief'

The American Civic Association is an organization that helps immigrants in the Binghamton area with naturalization applications, according to U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services. Mary Pat Hyland, a teacher at the center, told MSNBC that many of the immigrants who frequented the association were from Vietnam and Laos.

"We have a very diverse ethnic area," Hyland said.

"This is a terrible tragedy and our hearts and prayers go out to the victims and their families," Sens. Charles Schumer and Kirsten Gillibrand said in a joint statement Friday afternoon.

The area is in a stretch on the west side of the Chenango River in the city of about 45,000 near the Pennsylvania border. Emergency vehicles lined the streets in the neighborhood which is a mix of homes and small businesses.

The association describes itself as helping immigrants and refugees with counseling, resettlement, citizenship, family reunification and translators.

The association's president, Angela Leach, "is very upset right now," said Mike Chanecka, a friend who answered a call at her home as Leach wept in the background.

"She doesn't know anything; she's as shocked as anyone," Chanecka said. "For some reason, she had the day off today. And she's very worried about her secretary."

Later on Friday night, center officials said in a statement they were "stricken with grief about today's horrific assault and share this grief with the victims' families, our community and the entire nation."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: asianamericans; binghamton; immigration; jiverlyvoong; jiverlywong; murdersuicide; shooting; voong; wong
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"Greene said that he had asked Voong -- who he knew as Jiverly Wong -- whether he liked the New York Yankees.

"He said, 'No, I don't like that team. I don't like America. America sucks," Greene said, adding that Voong's penchant for guns was well known and that the alleged killer often practiced shooting at range. "

NOTICE TO ALL WHO HATE AMERICA BUT CONTINUE TO LIVE HERE AND SUCK UP THE BENEFITS WHILE NOT MAKING ANY POSITIVE CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR GREAT COUNTRY:

LEAVE NOW!

1 posted on 04/04/2009 8:29:31 AM PDT by bimboeruption
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To: bimboeruption

If he’d only instead gone to Wisconsin and shot deer hunters he might have garnered some sympathy.


2 posted on 04/04/2009 8:32:51 AM PDT by wardaddy (America, Ship of Fools)
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Diversity! Mass immigration equals national suicide.
3 posted on 04/04/2009 8:33:37 AM PDT by Godwin1 (Cthol)
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To: bimboeruption
Do not blame guns for these massacres. If our gun rights were respected there would be a good possibility of an armed person close by to save lives. Where were our touchy feely liberals to quell the murderous feelings or this guy?
4 posted on 04/04/2009 8:34:28 AM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: bimboeruption

“I don’t like America. America sucks,”

...and these guys are in charge now.


5 posted on 04/04/2009 8:34:35 AM PDT by BobL (Drop a comment: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2180357/posts)
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To: wardaddy

That comment is sick.


6 posted on 04/04/2009 8:35:26 AM PDT by mulligan (A)
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To: bimboeruption
“I don’t like America. America sucks,”

Oh, a Democrat.

7 posted on 04/04/2009 8:35:59 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Obama's next program: Kopechne Care)
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To: wardaddy
If he’d only instead gone to Wisconsin and shot deer hunters he might have garnered some sympathy.

I watched that case on CourtTV.

I was surprised by the large number of mungs in that area.

9 posted on 04/04/2009 8:37:11 AM PDT by bimboeruption (Clinging to my Bible and my HK.)
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To: bimboeruption
Binghamton's Police Chief Joseph Zikuski told NBC's "Today'' show that people "degraded and disrespected'' the gunman -- believed to be a Vietnamese immigrant -- over his poor English

The shooter has been officially absolved of all guilt by the Binghampton Police Chief. Woo hoo! In fact, there will be some HATE CRIME arrests in town very soon. Chief Zikuski is going to get to the bottom of who victimized this poor, innocent, immigrant from Vietnam.

Move along, nothing to see here . . .

10 posted on 04/04/2009 8:37:29 AM PDT by PLK
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To: bimboeruption

It is getting hard to go into state and federal buildings, churches, and liberal owned malls, since they are kill zones for the mentally deranged.


11 posted on 04/04/2009 8:37:58 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: bimboeruption
A string of attacks in the U.S. in the last month left 44 people dead in all.

Sounds very similar to the stats that emerged from the south side of Chicago one month last summer.

I know it's not related, but what did BHO promise to spread to the rest of the country?

12 posted on 04/04/2009 8:40:09 AM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (His Excellency Barack Hussein Obama, Head of Government, Duce of Fascism,and Destroyer of Capitalism)
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To: bimboeruption
"An examination was being given for...immigrants to become Americans," Vice President Joe Biden said. "I ask you to keep these folks in your prayers. We've got to figure out a way to deal with this senseless, senseless violence."

You just try it, joe.

13 posted on 04/04/2009 8:41:39 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: mountainlion

Exactly! A thousand guns thrown into the building wouldn’t have hurt anyone. And he could have killed many ways if he was that determined. He could have set the place on fire. Guess it would have been the fault of the matches and gasoline then?
Some in our society have gone to LUDICROUS lengths to excuse evil by blaming inanimate objects used to kill.


14 posted on 04/04/2009 8:42:06 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: mountainlion
Do not blame guns for these massacres. If our gun rights were respected there would be a good possibility of an armed person close by to save lives...

Ya know, the libs are being unusually quiet about this shooting.

I wonder why they're not screaming about gun control?

15 posted on 04/04/2009 8:42:48 AM PDT by bimboeruption (Clinging to my Bible and my HK.)
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To: bimboeruption
On Saturday, Binghamton's Police Chief Joseph Zikuski told NBC's "Today'' show that people "degraded and disrespected'' the gunman -- believed to be a Vietnamese immigrant -- over his poor English.

This from the chief of a police department that did this (from another article):

"Police heard no gunfire after they arrived but waited for about an hour before entering the building to make sure it was safe for officers."

16 posted on 04/04/2009 8:45:06 AM PDT by xjcsa (Currently shouting "I told you so" about Michael Steele on my profile page.)
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To: bimboeruption
...he had asked Jiverly Wong -- whether he liked the New York Yankees.

"He said, 'No, I don't like that team. I don't like America. America sucks,"


That looks like a Yankees logo to me.

17 posted on 04/04/2009 8:48:37 AM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (His Excellency Barack Hussein Obama, Head of Government, Duce of Fascism,and Destroyer of Capitalism)
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To: bimboeruption

This guy sounds like Barak Obama.


18 posted on 04/04/2009 8:49:16 AM PDT by abclily
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To: xjcsa

They didn’t want to get their SWAT uniforms soiled like
the officers at Columbine!


19 posted on 04/04/2009 8:49:52 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: mulligan

actually you apparently need to keep up better and you might have recognized the context of my comment.

several years ago a Mung tribesman hunter in the woods of Wisconsin went looney over his deer stand and murdered several round eye hunters in cold blood.

he actually found sympathy from the PETA types and their fellow travelers on the left and in the media

poor little misunderstood immigrant and all that


20 posted on 04/04/2009 8:51:25 AM PDT by wardaddy (America, Ship of Fools)
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To: bimboeruption
I don't like America. America sucks

That's not what he said!

He said, "I doan wike Amewika! Amewika suk!"

21 posted on 04/04/2009 8:52:25 AM PDT by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: bimboeruption

yep, and more than a few were sympathetic to the killer even though it was obvious he killed with steely deliberateness


22 posted on 04/04/2009 8:52:58 AM PDT by wardaddy (America, Ship of Fools)
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To: bimboeruption
"...I don't like America. America sucks,"

I'm surprised he wasn't able to parlay that into a top Obama administration position.

23 posted on 04/04/2009 8:53:23 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: bimboeruption
"Among the dead is a male victim who has a satchel around his neck that has ammunition," said Binghamton Police Chief Joe Zikuski. "We have very good reason to believe that the shooter is among the dead. We have no idea what the motive is."

Zikuski said the dead suspect was "known" to the center. Rep. Maurice Hinchey said the gunman had recently been let go from a job at IBM but NBCnewyork has learned that Voong had never worked at the computer giant.
Law enforcement sources said it wasn't clear what sparked the massacre.

A woman who identified herself as Jiverly Voong's sister said she did not think he was the shooter and insisted he may have been a victim.
"He didn't have a gun. I think somebody involved, not him. I think he got shot by somebody else," said the woman, who refused to give her name. "I think there's a misunderstanding over here because I want to know, too."



I would also like to know. Some things about this just don't add up. We keep hearing about a "satchel" of ammunition around his neck, but I've yet to hear anything about a gun found in his hand, which is what you would expect from a suicide. And now it turns out he never worked for IBM (?).
I've also seen no follow-up on the two people handcuffed and led away from the scene by police, or any details on the car used to barricade the rear entrance, which apparently was registered to someone else.


24 posted on 04/04/2009 8:53:50 AM PDT by Deo volente
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To: bimboeruption; cardinal4

Wait a minute!!! I thought it said that the murderer didn’t speak English!!!


25 posted on 04/04/2009 8:55:10 AM PDT by Ax (You've got to hand it to Venus de Milo)
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To: TeleStraightShooter
That looks like a Yankees logo to me.

He must have gotten it for free from some nice Christian organization like the Salvation Army.

26 posted on 04/04/2009 8:57:40 AM PDT by bimboeruption (Clinging to my Bible and my HK.)
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To: xjcsa

I guess they didn’t learn a thing from Columbine or V tech. Just goes to show the only person you can rely on to protect you, is you. The police will only arrive in time to make a nice chalk outline around your body.

Sad situation all around.


27 posted on 04/04/2009 8:58:36 AM PDT by kamikaze2000
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To: mulligan

It was right on the money, if you recall that case.


28 posted on 04/04/2009 8:58:57 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Ax

poor english.


29 posted on 04/04/2009 9:03:43 AM PDT by bill1952 (Power is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: ClearBlueSky
Some in our society have gone to LUDICROUS lengths to excuse evil by blaming inanimate objects used to kill.

Recently in Milton, Mass. there was a whacko who took out two of his family members with a large knife and was about to start on a third when a police officer took him down. Then there was the guy who was randomly hacking people with a machete in Times Square.

Wasn't there a story of an angry (muslim?) student who drove his car into a college cafeteria, sometime before Virginia Tech?

Should we ban knives and cars? Any ingredients used to make an explosive device? Anything poisonous? That is the next step in the "ban guns and all will be well" mindset. The problem is not the implement a person uses to do mayhem. The problem is the defective moral code within that person. The only way to change that is to change the culture back to what it was before liberals began gutting it in the 1960s.
30 posted on 04/04/2009 9:05:08 AM PDT by LostInBayport (When more than 98% of the Republicans on Capitol Hill vote against a bill, it is not bipartisan.)
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To: bimboeruption

This guy is deciding for the unfortunate immigrants what is best for them. Sounds like the left. RIP to all in this terrible event.


31 posted on 04/04/2009 9:09:46 AM PDT by eyedigress
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To: pissant; All
Here are a couple of links to the Wisconsin trial regarding a mung who murdered 6 and hurt 2:

http://www.courttv.com/trials/vang/091605_verdict_ctv.html

This one talks about the weapon used:

http://www.gunshopfinder.com/legislativenews/wisconsin11_24_04.html

32 posted on 04/04/2009 9:14:55 AM PDT by bimboeruption (Clinging to my Bible and my HK.)
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To: bimboeruption

Darn, He would have been a perfect candidate for Obama’s new civil army.


33 posted on 04/04/2009 9:16:45 AM PDT by rjones42
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To: Deo volente
A woman who identified herself as Jiverly Voong’s sister said she did not think he was the shooter and insisted he may have been a victim.
“He didn't have a gun. I think somebody involved, not him. I think he got shot by somebody else,” said the woman, who refused to give her name. “I think there's a misunderstanding over here because I want to know, too.” According to the State Police, the shooter owned to registered hand guns. One in 45 cal. and the other in 9MM. Guess his sister didn't know everything.
34 posted on 04/04/2009 9:19:36 AM PDT by JimC214
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To: wardaddy

I caught it. Maybe Mulligan needs one.


35 posted on 04/04/2009 9:26:19 AM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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To: bimboeruption
Vice President Joe Biden said. "I ask you to keep these folks in your prayers. We've got to figure out a way to deal with this senseless, senseless violence."

TRANSLATION - These types of incidents are the perfect excuse needed to begin the gun-grabbing.

36 posted on 04/04/2009 9:36:54 AM PDT by AAABEST (And the light shineth in darkness: and the darkness did not comprehend it)
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To: bimboeruption
Ya know, the libs are being unusually quiet about this shooting. I wonder why they're not screaming about gun control?

It's probably still coming and maybe they're making sure their talking points are coordinated first.

OTOH just maybe they're worried about exposure of how difficult it is for LEGAL immigrants to get their relatives in and how much more difficult for them across the board than for the 10's of millions of ILLEGAL immigrants for whom the skids are being greased by the Wizards of the Universe.

37 posted on 04/04/2009 9:46:25 AM PDT by Sal (The Mr. Cool mask has slipped and exposed the naked face of the Chicago Street Thug.)
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To: mulligan

“That comment is sick.”
What’s sick about it? Don’t you remember the incident he was referring to or is your memory shorter than your #@%#?


38 posted on 04/04/2009 10:01:36 AM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: wardaddy

Mung = HMONG

The Hmong were our allies in the Vietnam War.


39 posted on 04/04/2009 10:35:57 AM PDT by Palladin (President Obama: "Ich bin eine Kokain Kopf.")
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To: Palladin

Yes...I’m old enough to remember.

to be frank Icouldn’t remember if the killer was montagnard or hmong...

my bad on the spelling

and yes...I am in favor of resttling them since we left so many to be “reconstructed” after 1975


40 posted on 04/04/2009 10:42:19 AM PDT by wardaddy (America, Ship of Fools)
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To: BnBlFlag

lol...you bad.


41 posted on 04/04/2009 10:43:39 AM PDT by wardaddy (America, Ship of Fools)
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To: bimboeruption
He was just following Hussein's orders too get in peoples faces who disagreed with him.
42 posted on 04/04/2009 11:25:35 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Osamabama the Wright kind of Racist! We are at War with Democrats)
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To: cowboyway

It was Barney Fudd?


43 posted on 04/04/2009 11:36:00 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: crusty old prospector

Biden delivered that in the same manner as GWB did right after teh attacks on 9/11 began...

The gasps from that crowd were incredible...

What needs to be beaten into the mush minds that believe government and Law Enforcment can prevent, or in Biden’s words, deal with this senseless violence...Is not a government ban or restrictions on the instruments that are “used” by senseless people...But to encourage laws to be passed immediately to allow citizens who choose to do so, carry firearms on their person for lawful self defensive purposes...

It is a detterent, and reduces the number of people effected by murderers like we have seen in revent weeks...

But I am concerned that we will only see, what we have feared coming for a long time...

It seems to me people need to ask yourself this question...

“What are you prepared to do about it, and what are you willing to sacrifice for it?”


44 posted on 04/04/2009 11:43:43 AM PDT by stevie_d_64
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To: bimboeruption

bump


45 posted on 04/04/2009 11:49:27 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (01-20-2009 : The end of the PAX AMERICANA.)
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To: bimboeruption

**I don’t like America. America sucks,”**

If he’d just waited till 2012, he could have RUN for President on the DEMocrat ticket.


46 posted on 04/04/2009 11:58:55 AM PDT by gwilhelm56 (I GIVE UP .... HEIL Obama!!)
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To: bimboeruption
he was angry about his language issues

Anyone remember the massacre at the Good Guys in Sacramento 20 years ago, or so? Same thing there. Vietnamese immigrants who couldn't speak English very well and couldn't get good jobs. Resentment, bitterness, hatred, etc. -- and finally -- a massacre followed. There are lots of other examples. Not as high-profile that I can remember offhand, but deadly nonetheless.

Fluency in English ought to be a requirement for immigrants. Liberals (who also hate America, coincidentally) focus on the guns. They should be focusing on stuff like this instead. Focusing on hatred of America would be best, but then that might make them a little uncomfortable.

47 posted on 04/04/2009 12:03:00 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Deo volente

**Rep. Maurice Hinchey said the gunman had recently been let go from a job at IBM but NBCnewyork has learned that Voong had never worked at the computer giant. **

As we call him... Comrade MO HIN CHEE, has one minor personality flaw... if his lips are moving... He’s LYING. He’s one of those who would lie, even if the Truth would cause LESS of a problem.


48 posted on 04/04/2009 12:04:01 PM PDT by gwilhelm56 (I GIVE UP .... HEIL Obama!!)
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To: bimboeruption

I find this odd
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Binghamton-NY-Shooting/ss/events/us/040309nyshooting#photoViewer=/090404/480/62768c4741a6430bbcae6309f54b5d8e


49 posted on 04/04/2009 1:14:24 PM PDT by Selene
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To: Trailerpark Badass
"...I don't like America. America sucks,"
I'm surprised he wasn't able to parlay that into a top Obama administration position.

Perhaps he was up to date on his taxes. On a more serious note, given the current pro-business climate in East Asia, he may have been better off there.

50 posted on 04/04/2009 1:23:38 PM PDT by magooey (The Mandate of Heaven resides in the hearts of men)
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