Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Iowa, Same Sex Marriage and the 2012 Presidential Race [Romney comments on marriage]
The Washington Post - The Fix ^ | 2009-04-04 | Chris Cillizza

Posted on 04/04/2009 11:52:23 AM PDT by rabscuttle385

The decision today by the Iowa Supreme Court that ruled a ban on same-sex marriage in the Hawkeye State unconstitutional is certain to have an impact on the state's critical Republican presidential caucuses in 2012.

. . . . .

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, who ran unsuccessfully for the nomination in 2008 and is an almost-certain candidate in 2012, did offer a comment on the decision when asked by the Fix.

"I believe marriage is a relationship between a man and a woman and the definition of marriage should be left to the people and not to activist courts," Romney said.

Romney struggled to convince social conservatives of his bona fides during the 2008 campaign due to his past statements in support of gay rights. He is making sure there is no such uncertainty in the minds of social conservatives next time around.

(Excerpt) Read more at voices.washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: 2012gopprimary; 2012rncplatform; culturewars; fakeconservatives; flipflop; homosexualagenda; ia2012; marriage; mcromney; mittromney; rino; rinoalert; rinoalertrinoparty; rinoparty; rinoromney; romney; romneytruthfile; samesexmarriage; slickwillard; willard

1 posted on 04/04/2009 11:52:23 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: big'ol_freeper; mountainbunny; DirtyHarryY2K; rabscuttle385

The Mitt Romney Truth File.

FR Keywords: romneytruthfile, slickwillard, mcromney

Please tag all relevant threads with the aforementioned keywords.

This can be a very high-volume ping list at times.

To join the ping list:
FReepmail rabscuttle385 with the subject line add  romneytruthfile.
(Stop getting pings by sending the subject line drop romneytruthfile.)
 
Republican Commissar’s Warning: By joining this ping list, you may be subjected to the delusional rants and ramblings of Romneybots, of "moderate" Republicans, of pragmatic conservatives resigned to voting for the lesser of two Democrats, and of countless GOP shills who simply want to meet a new overlord.


2 posted on 04/04/2009 11:53:06 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rabscuttle385
next time around

That's really all the Romneybots have. "Next time around" he'll maybe win. "Next time around" he'll maybe be Conservative. Or not.

3 posted on 04/04/2009 11:55:33 AM PDT by SolidWood (Palin: "We do not want to becomes slaves of Washington.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rabscuttle385

I’m so danged annoyed! First I had to re-register Republicken in order to vote Republicken in our first CA early primary, but already by that time all the viable conservatives had either dropped, or were hopelessly behind the curve. So we voted for Romney with gobs of rationalizations running through our minds and stubbornly refusing to vote for Juan McLame, or to sit out the election.


4 posted on 04/04/2009 11:59:29 AM PDT by SierraWasp (Galloping suffocating American Socialism stinks like BO!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: rabscuttle385

Counterfeit marriage for homosexuals is alive and well in Mass., Mr. Romney.


5 posted on 04/04/2009 11:59:48 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rabscuttle385
screw him and his hair cult amongst republican women....

this man is not a conservative. He is the ultimate RINO. More of a RINO than McQueeg (who is more of a Democrat).

6 posted on 04/04/2009 11:59:57 AM PDT by Vaquero (This is coming to a head....this pimple needs a poppin')
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: rabscuttle385
Time to move past Romney as a serious conservative candidate I can support.

Just a sampling of the neo-Statist Mitt Romney just this week....

Romney Lets His Conservative Mask Slip

Romney breaks with GOP on the issue of deregulation [and immigration reform]

Romney strikes bipartisan tone at GOP fundraiser (praises Obama)

Romney: Don't root for Obama to fail

Romney backs Obama auto decision, praising 'backbone'

A Very Sick Health Plan; Bay State’s ‘Grand Experiment’ Fails [RomneyCare]

7 posted on 04/04/2009 12:01:47 PM PDT by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Fourth Century)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rabscuttle385
"I believe marriage is a relationship between a man and a woman and the definition of marriage should be left to the people and not to activist courts," Romney said.

Mr. Romney, the definition of marriage was defined by God in the beginning.

Saying it should be defined by people is pandering to homosexuals.

8 posted on 04/04/2009 12:04:31 PM PDT by Syncro (Qui non intelligit, aut taceat, aut discat)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SolidWood

Wasn’t he cheerleading TARP? ANd wasn’t he the fastest draw when the schoolmarm debate moderator asked who believed globull warming to be a serious problem?


9 posted on 04/04/2009 12:05:40 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Vaquero

The trouble with Republicans is that they spend so much time telling us who they are against, there is no energy left to build up who they are for. As a result the MSM does that for them.


10 posted on 04/04/2009 12:07:52 PM PDT by broncobilly
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: rabscuttle385

Romney was against abortion til he wanted office in Taxachusetts...then he was for it...then when he wanted the GOP nomination...he was against it.

How can anyone trust this guy?


11 posted on 04/04/2009 12:35:13 PM PDT by kjo
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: broncobilly
The trouble with Republicans is that they spend so much time telling us who they are against, there is no energy left to build up who they are for.

That is completely out of the liberal media mantra.

The problem with the GOP is that they have lost their soul and will accept any candidate with a heartbeat regardless of their lack of conservative bonafides. The party is infested with moderates and their idiot sycophants who are more than willing to stab the base in the back to win election.

Until the party rejects RINOs like Romney, and drives out their limp-wristed sycophants, it is a dead party.

12 posted on 04/04/2009 12:42:17 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("From hell's heart I stab at thee... I spit my last breath at thee." ~ Khan Noonien Singh)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: MaestroLC

“Just a sampling of the neo-Statist Mitt Romney just this week....”

Sure. After all, if the MSM prints it, it must be true. /s


13 posted on 04/04/2009 12:52:32 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Syncro
Here here, Syncro!

Marriage IS a man and a woman, united for life. That is the reality, that IS WHAT IT IS. No matter what anyone believes. Your belief Mr. Romney, noes not enter into anything, reality does. You can call a horse a cow, believe it's a cow or not believe it's a cow, it it still a horse! Likewise an apple is not an orange no matter what anyone “believes” it to be, blue is not yellow, no matter what anyone “believes” it to be. AND a man is not a woman and vise versa, no matter how many operations they have to change it, no matter what anyone “believes” they are. Facts are facts, reality is reality, and words have meaning.

There really is no debate here.

14 posted on 04/04/2009 1:10:02 PM PDT by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: big'ol_freeper
That is completely out of the liberal media mantra

I'll tell you what is completely out of the liberal mantra:

Get the Republicans fighting and criticizing among themselves so they are so occupied they fail to build up a viable candidate. Tell the Republicans no one is perfect enough for them. Whomever the Republicans don't destroy by themselves, the MSM will undermine the rest. Then a few of the faithful democrats can cross over and nominate some liberal Republican that the rest of the Republicans find hard to support.

It is a sure fire strategy for destroying the Republicans. It lets the super critical Republicans do most of the work for them.

15 posted on 04/04/2009 1:14:51 PM PDT by broncobilly
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: rabscuttle385

The Constitution protects individuals; not relationships.


16 posted on 04/04/2009 1:49:29 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The Obama Administration is a blueprint for Fabian Socialism.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: gidget7

Yup.


17 posted on 04/04/2009 2:04:03 PM PDT by Syncro (Qui non intelligit, aut taceat, aut discat)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: gidget7; Syncro
That is the reality, that IS WHAT IT IS.

Marriage is, by definition, an exclusivity contract, moral, social, and legal, between one man and one woman, of legal majority, that carries certain pre-defined and legally sanctioned rights and responsibilities for both parties.

"Marriage" that does not involve one man and one woman, no more and no less, is not marriage at all. It's something entirely different.

18 posted on 04/04/2009 2:18:08 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: rabscuttle385
Correct.

And Romney is saying that “the definition of marriage should be left to the people”

You are right, Romney is wrong.

19 posted on 04/04/2009 2:24:29 PM PDT by Syncro (Qui non intelligit, aut taceat, aut discat)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: broncobilly
You're right. This stuff is straight out of Alinsky 101. Being that the election is still quite aways off, I wonder why all the Romney threads lately? Largely by the same few folks. Hmmmmmm. Of course, their take on these MSM articles also makes one go hmmmmmm.

Every time I see one of these threads, I keep hearkening back to the ole’ gipper:

“When I began entering into the give and take of legislative bargaining in Sacramento, a lot of the most radical conservatives who had supported me during the election didn’t like it. “Compromise” was a dirty word to them and they wouldn’t face the fact that we couldn’t get all of what we wanted today. They wanted all or nothing and they wanted it all at once. If you don’t get it all, some said, don’t take anything.

I’d learned while negotiating union contracts that you seldom got everything you asked for. And I agreed with FDR, who said in 1933: ‘I have no expectations of making a hit every time I come to bat. What I seek is the highest possible batting average.’ If you got seventy-five or eighty percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later, and that’s what I told these radical conservatives who never got used to it.“ Ronald Reagan,

And these guys wonder why conservatives aren't getting elected.

20 posted on 04/04/2009 3:18:37 PM PDT by Reno232
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: rabscuttle385

When Willard had a chance to step up and do something about it, he didn’t lift a finger to stop gay marriage in Massachusetts.


21 posted on 04/04/2009 3:58:06 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rabscuttle385
"Experts: Credit Romney for homosexual marriage"
"What he (Governor Bishop Mitt Romney) did was exercise illegal legislative authority'

"While former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney claims he did everything possible to throttle homosexual marriage in his state – his campaign now saying he took "every conceivable step within the law to defend traditional marriage" – several constitutional experts say that just isn't so.

"What Romney did [was] he exercised illegal legislative authority," Herb Titus said of the governor's actions after the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court released its opinion in the Goodridge case in 2003. "He was bound by what? There was no order. There wasn't even any order to the Department of Public Health to do anything."

Titus, a Harvard law graduate, was founding dean of Pat Robertson's Regent University Law School. He also worked with former Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore, ...

Romney's aides have told WND that after four of the seven court members reinterpreted the definition of marriage, he believed he had no choice but to direct clerks and others to change state marriage forms and begin registering same-sex couples.

Some opponents contend that with those actions, Romney did no more or less than create the first homosexual marriages recognized in the nation. And Titus agrees."

"....But the court's decision conflicts with the constitutional philosophy of three co-equal branches of government: executive, legislative and judicial, Titus said. It also violates with the Massachusetts Constitution, which states: "The power of suspending the laws, or (suspending) the execution of the laws, ought never to be exercised but by the legislature..."

And it cannot even be derived from the opinion itself, asserts the pro-family activist group Mass Resistance, which says the decision did four things:

* First, it acknowledged that the current law does not permit same-sex marriage.

"The only reasonable explanation is that the Legislature did not intend that same-sex couples be licensed to marry. We conclude, as did the judge, that G.L. c. 207 may not be construed to permit same-sex couples to marry."

* Second, it said it is NOT striking down the marriage laws (among other things, the Massachusetts Constitution forbids a court to change laws)

"Here, no one argues that striking down the marriage laws is an appropriate form of relief."

* Third, it declared that not allowing same-sex marriages is a violation of the Massachusetts Constitution.

"We declare that barring an individual from the protections, benefits, and obligations of civil marriage solely because that person would marry a person of the same sex violates the Massachusetts Constitution."

* And fourth, given that the court is not changing any laws, the SJC gave the Legislature 180 days to "take such action as it may deem appropriate."

"We vacate the summary judgment for the department. We remand this case to the Superior Court for entry of judgment consistent with this opinion. Entry of judgment shall be stayed for 180 days to permit the Legislature to take such action as it may deem appropriate in light of this opinion."

After the Legislature did nothing during the 180 days, Romney then took action "on his own," the group said.

"Gov. Romney's legal counsel issued a directive to the Justices of the Peace that they must perform same-sex marriages when requested or 'face personal liability' or be fired," the group said."

22 posted on 04/04/2009 4:07:29 PM PDT by Diogenesis
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Reno232; broncobilly
You're right. This stuff is straight out of Alinsky 101. Being that the election is still quite aways off, I wonder why all the Romney threads lately? Largely by the same few folks. Hmmmmmm. Of course, their take on these MSM articles also makes one go hmmmmmm.

Give me a break, Mr. Conservative Conspiracy Theory. If you look at Saturday's Mormon Times, you'll see an article, "Did Romney's religion cost him the presidency?" (BTW, the answer to that question according to the "expert" cited in that article was "yes, no, and maybe").

So because the Mormon Times is running an article the same exact day as the one posted, are we to likewise conclude, Being that the election is still quite aways off, I wonder why all the [Mormon commentator] Romney articles lately? Largely by the same few folks. [This Utah based Kirk Jowers character has been cited in several articles this week] Hmmmmmm.

23 posted on 04/05/2009 4:55:24 PM PDT by Colofornian
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: BarnacleCenturion
“Just a sampling of the neo-Statist Mitt Romney just this week....” Sure. After all, if the MSM prints it, it must be true. /s

That's pretty rich coming from Barnacle Centurion, who has posted countless lies about Rush and Levin, claming that those two great conservative minds are fans of Romney, when the truth is that they have never been more than lukewarm at best about Mitt "Eddie Haskell" Romney. Barnacle and like-minded, ethically-challenged Romney supporters are skilled at carefully selecting words and taking them out of context to mislead people.

Barnacle, when it comes to Romney, you wouldn't know the truth if it bit you in the nose. You are such a putz.

24 posted on 04/06/2009 12:44:50 AM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: broncobilly
Bronco, you have yet to learn the definition of insanity. Romney is a sure-fire strategy for destroying the Republicans.

You apparently really actually believe that the only thing that makes a Republican different from a Democrat is the letter after his name. I have to figure that's your problem, because it's the only way to explain why you think that "fighting and criticizing among themselves," also known as working out principles so that the Republican party can return to its roots of having candidates who embrace conservative principle, is unimportant. Your way will ALWAYS lead to Liberal leftist triumph no matter the letter behind the winner's name. You don't understand that. Yet. Maybe you will someday, and when you do, good. Until then, you are actualizing the definition of insanity.

25 posted on 04/06/2009 12:54:38 AM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson