Skip to comments.End "Corrective" Rape of Lesbians in South Africa
Posted on 04/05/2009 12:16:49 AM PDT by Melissa 24
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There are also women who are infected with HIV and AIDS, going around and raping men in Africa, I guess as a means of getting back at them.
All it’s really doing is increasing the cases of HIV and AIDS.
Usual lefty suspects ginning up the “hate crime” rhetoric about a whole land that is lousy with rapes of all sorts, including infant rapes (by superstition they are thought to rid the rapist of the AIDS virus).
interesting to see the flip side of apartheid
Zimbabwe too , lovely place now
So rape is legal in South Africa? Just more leftist propaganda. The soft Marxism of the ANC has turned the country into the crime capital of the world; creating a new rubric for naming crimes won't fix any of the underlying problems.
Rape is an atrocious act of violence. These men are beyond reproach. I believe people are born gay or straight, the end. Therapy, coercion or, God forbid, rape will not change the outcome of someone's sexual orientation, period.
I am stating my opinion and will not debate religious dogma as it would be futile.
“Corrective rape is where men are raping lesbians in hopes to cure them of their sexual orientation.”
Any decent brand of Scotch e’l do that...
I believe people aren’t “born that way,” but I agree with you that rape isn’t going to “cure” anything. All it will do is make these women hate men, if they don’t already.
Growing up, many years ago, there was a family friend who was gay. (It was explained to me later.) She grew up in a convent in Europe (I won’t say where - too many details), and during WWII, soldiers passing through broke into the convent and raped the nuns there. It left a terrible impression of men on a young girl. (I’m not sure if she was raped herself.)
The article said — Most of these brutal attacks are being reported from towns like Johannesburg and Cape Town, where the rape crime is immensely high. Despite these massive reporting, victims cries for help still seem to fall on deaf ears. Statics show that 24 out of every 25 reported men walk free due to the fact that the African government does not recognize hate crimes as a crime. It is because of issues like these that Africa has turned into the rape capital of the world, where a quarter of all women are being raped by the age of 16.
Now that is *really strange*. I didn’t realize that “rape” was legal in South Africa and that the only way they can convict men like this is by having a “hate crime law”...
Just about everyone who took time to be as accurate as they could, from St. Paul to Freud to modern atheist psychologists dragged kicking and screaming by the facts, disagrees with you about the flexibility of sexual desire.
They don’t really care especially when it is in places with no cameras to video tape them caring.
More than likely, many people who are abused tend to be attracted to abusive people until they can heal. My two cents, fwiw.
Darling you are wrong about sexual orientation but you have a right to be. I will agree that there is nothing corrective about rape, it is wrong regardless of sexual proclivities or peculiarities.
You may want to visit this and un-brainwash your mind a little.
Sweetheart, I will decline your kind offer to visit the link. You have a right to your opinion as I have a right to mine, thank you for that.
A woman of color in our church wrote a doctoral dissertation on the "struggles" for "liberation" experienced by women of color in the Republic of South Africa. I politely asked her if she thought they felt "liberated," now that the RSA had become the abortion and rape capital of the world. She didn't know ...
Rapes, murders, and violent crimes of all flavors have skyrocketed, but hey, now the RSA can play in international games, abortion and sodomy are legal, and the communists run things. Ain't liberation wonderful?
(Disclaimer: I taught myself Afrikaans a few decades ago as a Quixotic gesture of solidarity with the older order!)
If the “correcters” got what they would get in a US prison for doing this, would they also switch orientations?
I’ve known several “homosexuals” as well as some variants.
The two young lesbians that I new were very troubled, chasing straight girls, going through depression, one had been molested the other wanted to have sex reassignment surgery but was actively pretending to be a guy.
The men I’ve known fall into two categories. One was molested by his uncle who was also a town arsonist and also gay. The other had a learning disability and could not read or write. I know that isn’t the general case but it was pretty clear that his situation was incidental.
A girl friend of mine had a sister who was bisexual. I had no idea nor cared. I didn’t know the other lady she was living with was sleeping with her. It was a case of incidental lesbianism though, the parents had left the older sister with the kids while she was still in high school and she needed someone to help her.
The one thing that I’ve seen is that homosexuality is not a clear cut thing as gay activists wish it to be and even if it were it would not make it correct. What is unfortunate is that there are many cases of molestation and abuse where it plays a key factor in the development of homosexual desires. These people will never receive the care they need if the activists have their way.
“I believe people are born gay or straight, the end.”
I believe you’re wrong, I think it could be something that’s very difficult and complicated to turn around, but I do wish you well.
Okay, we will disagree. I wish you well, too.
HiTech RedNeck, Freud was not a psychologist, but you’re correct, he did obtain a lot of information based on 12 case studies of rich, male Austrian in the 19th century. His research is nearly worthless to be applied to anyone else as he performed case studies, not quantitative analysis.
That being said, you are correct. RepublicanChick is not. I thank you for advocating just as Maelstorm did.
I think the best approach is to tell the truth and not get into an argument with someone completely ignorant of a topic. It is obvious that this person is basing her opinion on worthless anecdote and has already stated she is ignorant, but does not wish to be enlightened. I would suggest ignoring her irrelevant “opinion.” Everybody’s got one.
Here we deal in facts as we can, and try to find truth. Engaging in repetition until someone believes something does not have any lasting effects. It’s a liberal way, and RepublicanChick is using logical fallacies, ie. “Mine is better than yours-Thinking.”
Thanks guys for the post, I just felt I should say that because this can turn into a hate board quickly, I’ve seen it happen lots.
Same gender sexual behavior is not only degrading and devestating, it’s evil. It destroyes the mind and ensnares the body. Rape is a crime of power, not sexually based, just sexually enforced. Neither group is justified in their evil practice, no matter who consents to what, but wether one evil is more base than another, neither will do anyone any good.
And I can almost guarantee that even in the anecdotes you provided, there are probably more incidents of abuse than what you know about. You are correct, the DESIRE is not clear cut, but EVERYONE has a choice about BEHAVIOR. Life is not about sex, no matter how much deviants try to make it out to be.
Best post ever.
This is from the same continent where HIV men believe that raping a virgin will cure them of the disease. We keep sending more free condoms but the situation gets worse.
I dont believe that many Lesbians are being raped correctionally or otherwise.
I dont believe there are that many outed lesbians in Africa.
My belief is that Africn men are raping women and claiming they are lesbians to get around the law.
Certainly there are a few lwsbians getting caught, but unless Africa is unlike other nations only 2% ( a statistic I have argued for years) are homosexual and no way would they find them all so they could rape them.
I dont believe all gays were born that way - maybe a few, but not many.
Ive known a few lesbians as friends - several were heterosexual until they were raped. The trauma left them not wanting anything to do with men and sex. Others switched because they were mistreated by men. Only the extremely ignorant could think rape would cure a lesbian - its an excuse to get away with rape.
And how are they doing that? I mean, I suppose I don't really want to know, but it's such a crazy statement ...
We ignored the bogus antiapartheid movement in voting for Obama so now we are going to learn about it... the hard way... if ever.
Interesting that now that men are struck down from lives of liberal lesbian feminists, they cry foul at being overtaken by animals.
Also interesting to see their entitlement mentality: the sub-animal antimale genocidal intents against the unborn they preselect should not apply to them.
Let them eat cake.
The article’s prescription of hate crime legislation to grant special protection to lesbians is not the proper solution to this problem. Rather, laws against rape should be enforced in all cases.
I’m just becoming aware of Jeff Satinover’s work in this area (I’m reading his Quantum Brain)and I find it resonates at a very deep level......that so much of what is commonly ascribed to genetics really boils down to early programming that is open to change should one choose to do so.
I’m with you in about 80% of the cases. Higher for men. JMO from observation.
On the debate, religion has nothing to do with a personal sexual activity choice. Gay is gay by choice. They love pleasure more than themselves... and that is why they make so much political noise. Many Gays, themselves, will acknowledge that they consider what they do is "wrong". Hence, the "closet".
Male is male. Female is female. In case you hadn't noticed, they fit, sexually, like OJ's glove. They are a perfect fit together, but any other use is a malfunction of choice. Homosexuals are just addicts, like so many others, and they expect everyone else to pay for their preferences...
It’s called a man or woman hating prostitute. It’s what gays passing aids are into these days: social biowarfare terrorism.
I think the Isaiah was right: the days of sultans’ protective harems and LDS church for lesbians are at hand.
You can still read the Bible without religious opinion. I suggest you read Song of Songs and stories of cherube like kings or queens or other angelic agents at the breasts of women.
Love is love, and saying one is born gay butchers the whole faithlessness in such and promotes rape. It takes strength to love, and while some are born weak physicaly, it takes strong sirit to overcome. Thence is the Revelation.
I believe you’re right about the genetic component, for the most part.
I meant strong Spirit not “sirit”, sheesh, ie. if one were to go by law, then OCD behavior would overtake and neglect us ironically. Only faith and borrowing from God’s spirit around in repent gives the strength. It’s not a matter of manipulating animals/instincts but of rightly expressing the right credit which power us.
South Africa should begin the “corrective” execution of convicted rapists.
I personaly do not believe genetics persecutes us as much as we do each other throughout our encounters and misunderstandings or selfish wishes to not want to know or understand the other.
Yes, homosexuals are in dangerous addictive and self destructive bondage indeed. Any animal out there would “dream” of having our genetics, yet we blame genetics for our miscarriage. Animals do fine naturaly heterosexualy for the most part, even if they now and then stray too. We have less excuses given our intelligence wealth yet we make more excuses. Thus we self hate, we reject intelligence, we dum down ourselves hypocriticaly etc...
But for SA to go after rapists it would require man-power and respect of the shepherd, ie. the need to organize a system of life. Since lesbians are not part of that and the ANC is not part of that, it’s “tooth pick” for them. The last thing a confidential confident genociding communist wants is good sense and clarity in a society which would see through its Nazi alter egos.
Yeah, that's what was taught to me in psychology class years ago.
Everyone is born a blank page, blah, blah.
I knew a psychology student intern that was planning on raising his newborn in a socially sterile environment, void of mother/baby contact. Similar to how condor hatchlings a raised.
After getting out in the real world, having 3 kids of my own and friends with kids, I realized people are born with at least certain personality proclivities.
My 3 kids were very different, growing up in the same house, same parents, etc.
I can't see how they can be so different unless there is a genetic factor.
I believe many gays are genetically predisposed to their attraction.
Some choose it. It's an 'in' thing with girls I understand.
You make the most sense so far. Always satisfying to see a comment that actually moves the ball down the field a bit.
The argument has been simmering for years, and we still await the first unambiguous piece of evidence for the genetic case. But beliefs irrationally arrived at are impervious to rational disputation.
The media template is that South Africa is now a land of harmony and wonderfulness. I mean, Oprah would never start a school in a place ruled by hate, would she? There you go.
The Left is great at making its constituent groups “take one for the team” in the interests of the “greater good.”
Any bets on whether or not the 2010 World Cup will actually take place in South Africa? I can’t see too many Europeans or North/South Americans making that trek into the violent country of RSA, not when they can watch the whole thing live on TV, and not have to worry about being mugged or raped on the way to the kitchen or bathroom.
When I drive into Dayton, Oh from my house I pass a large billboard with Desmond Tutu's picture and some goofy saying that he is for justice. Justice through peace or something like that. Never saying that Tutu helped change RSA into one of the most violent places on earth. The revolution was violent and thousands of whites have been murdered or driven from their lands to other countries. Also many black Africans have died and are still dying for Tutu's justice.
So most American's believe that RSA is a mythical state of bliss and won't hesitate to go visit due to the media propaganda that is routinely bandied around especially about Tutu another Nobel Prize winner.
You don’t get it.
Judgments can only be made against Western White Patriarchy.
All other cultures and behaviors are immune from criticism, lest one be branded a racist.
Nothing personal, but that's completely unresponsive to my question, which was, "How did the women rape the men?"
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