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End "Corrective" Rape of Lesbians in South Africa
Modern Ghana News ^ | april 3, 2009 | By Uzima Collective

Posted on 04/05/2009 12:16:49 AM PDT by Melissa 24

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To: RepublicanChick
I believe people are born gay or straight, the end.

Sure seems that their genetic programming lets them waver quite a bit in that case.

But I agree that what's described is horrific.

51 posted on 04/05/2009 7:14:45 AM PDT by Tribune7 (Obama wants to put the same crowd that ran Fannie Mae in charge of health care)
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To: Vinnie
The understanding that I have is that "genetics" is a catch all explanation for what otherwise is still unknown and perhaps utimately unknowable.

Modern science attempts to come up with a story that holds water but in the face of the infinite nature of this universe it only scratches the surface and having solved one puzzle moves on to the next mystery.

52 posted on 04/05/2009 7:26:03 AM PDT by ninonitti
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To: RepublicanChick

Right on point. I agree that there is a genetic predisposition to sexual orientation. It is beyond ignorant to think any kind of “conditioning” would change that.

I am straight and I could care less what a person’s sexual orientation is because that’s part of their own individual freedom and liberty.


53 posted on 04/05/2009 9:44:37 AM PDT by kara2008 (Government cannot be the solution when government is the problem)
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To: Tax-chick

It does answer the question upon inspection.

If I am a doctor taking your kidney and selling it, it’s a form of rape and loot of your body for purposes not in your interest.

When someone passes on a disease onto another knowingly for sabotage and demoralization purposes, it is the same thing. Prostitutes, male or female, who hate, do that: they fraud by providing false nurture and false care.

So called consensual sex is inherently fornication and mutual agreement of non-confrontation to rape one another and make another one pay for it (no marriage means some other tax payer pays for the child without being represented to the child, and homosexuality is based into such “privacies” which disallow men and turn them into donors and child supporters without representation, some luxury all government bureaucrates and tenured judicials love to see encoded in the books and culturaly so)


54 posted on 04/05/2009 6:23:41 PM PDT by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: kara2008

Genetics persecute far less than people do. One is not geneticaly natural born a criminal. That being said, we are all sinners and all gay in a way. Some who are persecuted repent from it, those who do not get lost further and deeper.

It’s not so much the roll of the dice, but the first choice of an arrogant but repentant Lot over Abraham to choose a good looking Soddom over humbler lands.

Abraham was just as predisposed as Lot were, it just happened that a culture of purchase chose to bite the fruit of sin first. If God had not destroyed Soddom as Lot entreated, Abraham’s developing lands might have fallen too. This is globalization of this culture in its current catastrophe.


55 posted on 04/05/2009 6:36:03 PM PDT by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: RepublicanChick

I agree that at least some people who are gay are born that way. Growing up, my family had another family that we were very close to. The other family had a boy my age named Miguel. I was always being told to play with Miguel, but he always wanted to play dishes, or color. When we were supposed to start at the church kindergarten together, I remember asking my mom what was wrong with Miguel. She told me he was just different.

Miguel got married and had a daughter. When his daughter turned 10, his marriage fell apart. He told me that he had known he was gay since junior high, but had just tried to make it go away. Didn’t work. He is now single and working as a lawyer. He has never had a gay relationship, but says he is 100% attracted to men.


56 posted on 04/05/2009 8:24:12 PM PDT by ga medic
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To: ga medic

Thanks for the agreement and your story. Kind of getting reamed for my beliefs!


57 posted on 04/05/2009 8:30:46 PM PDT by RepublicanChick
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To: RepublicanChick

You are welcome. My belief is slightly different from yours, but the main point is still the same. I believe that sexual attraction is on a spectrum, with one side being 100% attracted to same sex, and the other being 100% attracted to opposite sex. People will fit into any point on the spectrum. Those in the middle are more likely to change their attraction based upon experience. Those on the ends cannot change their attraction, even if they want to. those in the middle also account for those claiming to be bisexual, or claiming that they are attracted to both sexes. Just my personal theory, but it does explain much of the data about same sex behavior.


58 posted on 04/05/2009 8:56:30 PM PDT by ga medic
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To: RepublicanChick

The point of my post was not to argue with your belief, even though I disagree with it. The whole point of my post was that rape is not going to make a “gay” woman go “straight”. If anything, the opposite will happen.


59 posted on 04/05/2009 11:28:02 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: Maelstorm
The one thing that I’ve seen is that homosexuality is not a clear cut thing as gay activists wish it to be and even if it were it would not make it correct. What is unfortunate is that there are many cases of molestation and abuse where it plays a key factor in the development of homosexual desires. These people will never receive the care they need if the activists have their way.

I agree 100%.

I told the story of only one woman, only as an example that rape isn't going to make a woman like men, but it might make them dislike men.

But, I've known and worked with many other people who identified as homosexual. As a teen, a close friend's mother was a lesbian. She'd been married to a very handsome man who turned out to be a monster. Everyone believed that's what changed her.

In other cases I know about, including some distant relatives, where a person seemed to exhibit early signs as a child, something had happened early on - such as an absent father. I'll always believe a confusing upbringing or an experience or abuse (or even a conscious choice) is what leads people to become confused and/or attracted to the same sex. No other theory makes sense so far.

What people did with their own personal lives never concerned me much... until activists started pushing an agenda on school students and started making ridiculous demands, such as changing the definition of marriage.

60 posted on 04/05/2009 11:47:27 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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