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Knights Templar hid the Shroud of Turin, says Vatican
Times Online ^ | 04/05/2009 | Richard Owen

Posted on 04/05/2009 12:20:47 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan

Medieval knights hid and secretly venerated The Holy Shroud of Turin for more than 100 years after the Crusades, the Vatican said today in an announcement that appeared to solve the mystery of the relic’s missing years.

The Knights Templar, an order which was suppressed and disbanded for alleged heresy, took care of the linen cloth, which bears the image of a man with a beard, long hair and the wounds of crucifixion, according to Vatican researchers.

The Shroud, which is kept in the royal chapel of Turin Cathedral, has long been revered as the shroud in which Jesus was buried, although the image only appeared clearly in 1898 when a photographer developed a negative.

Barbara Frale, a researcher in the Vatican Secret Archives, said the Shroud had disappeared in the sack of Constantinople in 1204 during the Fourth Crusade, and did not surface again until the middle of the fourteenth century. Writing in L'Osservatore Romano, the Vatican newspaper, Dr Frale said its fate in those years had always puzzled historians.

However her study of the trial of the Knights Templar had brought to light a document in which Arnaut Sabbatier, a young Frenchman who entered the order in 1287, testified that as part of his initiation he was taken to “a secret place to which only the brothers of the Temple had access”. There he was shown “a long linen cloth on which was impressed the figure of a man” and instructed to venerate the image by kissing its feet three times.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ggg; godsgravesglyphs; knightstemplar; religion; shroud; shroudofturin; vatican
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1 posted on 04/05/2009 12:20:48 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
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To: BuckeyeTexan; Swordmaker

Ping to Swordmaker. IIRC, you are a student of the shroud?


2 posted on 04/05/2009 12:24:12 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping


3 posted on 04/05/2009 12:24:32 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Bump...


4 posted on 04/05/2009 12:28:27 PM PDT by tubebender
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To: BuckeyeTexan

of course carbon-dating is more conclusive then actual documentation...


5 posted on 04/05/2009 12:29:14 PM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: Old Sarge

Knights Templar PING!


6 posted on 04/05/2009 12:32:55 PM PDT by MS.BEHAVIN (Women who behave rarely make history)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
I do believe that a “Papal Apology” is in order.

The King of France trumped up charges against the Knights Templar, to get out of his debts.

That some “sins” were discovered among the Knights? Really? Who would NOT “admit” to sinful behavior during torture?

The Pope was NOT in charge of arresting the Templar Knights, and the Pope, at the time, did not find that the Knights were guilty of heresy.

Still, they way they were treated was just wrong, and the Church, at the time, should have done more.

“Friday the 13th” is the day the Templars were first arrested, by the King of France.

7 posted on 04/05/2009 12:34:33 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Always Right; BuckeyeTexan; Quix

You said — of course carbon-dating is more conclusive then actual documentation...

Here’s what one paragraph said in the article...


Radiocarbon dating tests on the Turin Shroud in 1988 indicated that it was a medieval fake. However this had been challenged on the grounds that the dated sample was taken from an area of the shroud mended after a fire in the Middle Ages and not a part of the original cloth.


I’ve seen that theory presented elsewhere, too...


8 posted on 04/05/2009 12:35:54 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: BuckeyeTexan

It was my understanding that the Knights Templar were the keepers of the Holy Grail.


9 posted on 04/05/2009 12:36:03 PM PDT by CapnJack
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To: Kansas58

Good info!


10 posted on 04/05/2009 12:36:07 PM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: uglybiker

Demolet does it again.


11 posted on 04/05/2009 12:36:41 PM PDT by patton (I hope that they fight to the death and both sides win.)
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To: uglybiker

ping


12 posted on 04/05/2009 12:38:21 PM PDT by Delta 21 (If you cant tell if I'm being sarcastic...maybe I'm not.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Funny, he doesn't look Jewish.

13 posted on 04/05/2009 12:38:57 PM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: Dr. Ursus
Think of the King of France as: ACORN or Obama

Think of the Templars as: Banks

14 posted on 04/05/2009 12:39:18 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Myself having a packrat mentality, I can't imagine anyone throwing away or deliberately destroying the Shroud. But there are plenty of non believers who would do it.
15 posted on 04/05/2009 12:39:33 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Delta 21

Beat ya. ;)


16 posted on 04/05/2009 12:40:14 PM PDT by patton (I hope that they fight to the death and both sides win.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Where was the shroud from 1-1204?


17 posted on 04/05/2009 12:41:26 PM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, passport and school records.)
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To: patton

Im way slow on the draw. :(


18 posted on 04/05/2009 12:42:34 PM PDT by Delta 21 (If you cant tell if I'm being sarcastic...maybe I'm not.)
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To: Kansas58

I really hope the person doing the census at my door doesn’t
pick RED out of the closet that day!


19 posted on 04/05/2009 12:42:42 PM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: CapnJack

Wonder where that is.


20 posted on 04/05/2009 12:43:03 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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