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Saving Notre Dame: Mary Ann Glendon, Our Lady's "secret weapon"?
Renew America ^ | 04-06-09 | Tom O'Toole

Posted on 04/06/2009 6:34:16 AM PDT by mlizzy



"So do you think this is the photo Nancy Pelosi taped her head over to prove she saw the Pope?" my wife kidded me about this article's picture of Pope Benedict XVI and Mary Ann Glendon, former U.S. Ambassador to the Vatican and current Harvard law professor, not to mention this year's recipient of the University of Notre Dame's Laetare Medal, ND's highest award for Catholics. While her picture with the Pope is proof that Professor Glendon, dubbed "the pro-life feminist" by the secular press, was, unlike Pelosi (whom His Holiness resolutely refused to grant even the briefest photo-op to, lest it be construed as acceptance of the speaker's heretical Catholic stances and thus lead to scandal), in good standing with the Holy See, does that mean she will stand up for the Faith when she takes the stage almost immediately before Obama during next month's controversial commencement at Notre Dame?

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1 posted on 04/06/2009 6:34:16 AM PDT by mlizzy
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To: mlizzy

Yeah, sure no POSED photo-op. There were pictures and video of the Holy Father greeting Her Heinousness.

Sorry, but the perception of the majority of the world, is that Pelosi visited the Pope and he did nothing to address her full scale support of abortion, while calling herself a Catholic.


2 posted on 04/06/2009 6:41:19 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: mlizzy

Notre Dame is a test. Do we accept what is being shoved down our throats or do we declare enough is enough? If the Board doesn’t stand for morals and principles, the ripple effect will be the loss of the country.


3 posted on 04/06/2009 6:42:28 AM PDT by bgill (This IS my happy face.)
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To: EyeGuy

I never saw one picture...do you have a link??


4 posted on 04/06/2009 6:46:46 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: bgill

Mrs. Don-o posted the names of nukmbers of the Board of Trustees for Notre Dame....I am going to call them today.


5 posted on 04/06/2009 6:47:36 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

I saw it briefly on the local news.

Someone here on FR said they had seen it on FoxNews as well. Another Freeper opined that the LeftMedia was running old video from a prior meeting (??).

The larger point being that the Holy Father did not make an overt and public statement condemning Pelosi to counter this (at minimum) POTENTIAL misconception.


6 posted on 04/06/2009 6:52:58 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: Ann Archy
Mrs. Don-o posted the names of nukmbers of the Board of Trustees for Notre Dame....I am going to call them today.

+++

Could you mail me with this information ... a link (whatever you have) ... to The P.O.P.E. Project at this e-mail address? I only have: c/o Mr. Richard C. Notebaert, Chairman, along with the main UND address.

Thank you,
The P.O.P.E. Project

7 posted on 04/06/2009 6:54:05 AM PDT by mlizzy
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To: mlizzy; Mrs. Don-o

Paging Mrs. Don-o......I don’t know HOW to forward.....I’m an old lady housewife....sorry.


8 posted on 04/06/2009 7:03:20 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: mlizzy

It is time to stop “turning the other cheek” and stand firm and vocally for Christianity in the name of God and for the Love of Jesus Christ.


9 posted on 04/06/2009 7:06:07 AM PDT by yoe
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To: stormer

YUK!!!! I hope he washed his hand after that!


11 posted on 04/06/2009 7:37:09 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: stormer

The politican in lilac is directly responsible for stainless steel trash receptacles, in clinics across the country, full of dismembered baby limbs, and the Holy Father smiles?


12 posted on 04/06/2009 8:06:00 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: Ann Archy

See Post #17....it is not the Board of Trustees, but the Fellows of the University that matter more.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2222640/posts


13 posted on 04/06/2009 8:10:27 AM PDT by irish guard
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To: irish guard; Ann Archy
See my post #48 on this link for the reasons regarding the fellows:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2222158/posts

14 posted on 04/06/2009 8:11:57 AM PDT by irish guard
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To: stormer

Puke. It’s a wonder she was struck down by lighening for posing as a human being.


15 posted on 04/06/2009 8:28:45 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: freekitty

Meant wasn’t struck down by ligtening.


16 posted on 04/06/2009 8:29:23 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: EyeGuy
I believe the most recent Pelosi-Pope neeting involved a private admonition, hence none of the diplomatic protocols (no press conference, official photo-op, etc.)

As a private admonition, it was pastoral and therefore (like Confession, for instance) not a venue for publicity.

From the Vatican statement 2/18/2009:

"Following the General Audience the Holy Father briefly greeted Mrs Nancy Pelosi, speaker of the United States House of Representatives, together with her entourage.

"His Holiness took the opportunity to speak of the requirements of the natural moral law and the Church's consistent teaching on the dignity of human life from conception to natural death which enjoin all Catholics, and especially legislators, jurists and those responsible for the common good of society, to work in cooperation with all men and women of good will in creating a just system of laws capable of protecting human life at all stages of its development."

She also had a private meet with her Arcbishop (I don't know which was first, the Pope or the Archbishop) but since then, she has not been seen going to Communion, so I assume that's what the admonitions were all about.

All those pictures and videos of Pelosi in the purple pant suit, even if they ran in Feb 2009, were I believe taken on April 16, 2008 when the Pope was in the USA and met the President (Bush) and Pelosi amd other officials.

I am not really a news-sleuth, and if I am mistaken anout any of this I would be grateful for a correction.

17 posted on 04/06/2009 10:31:42 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Lead all souls to heaven, especially those in most need of Thy Mercy. .." Angel of Fatima.)
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To: what's up; exit82; altoinprogress; ripley; truthandlife; Iron Munro; Happy Rain; LADY J; CIDKauf; ..
I wanted to make sure you got these links to the ACTION news about Notre Dame: the UNINVITE OBAMA PETITION now has a phenomenal 240,416 signatures (click the link, sign up and send it to everybody in your Address Book!)

...And a BIG, BIG PROTEST IS A-COMIN' which stirs my activist imagination and makes me think Obama is gonna unite us after all :o)

Imagine 20,000 young, old, hip, square, tie-dyed, purple-haired, properly-hatted and mantilla-covered, yarmulke-wearing and rosary-praying, Catholic and not-Catholic-by-a-long-shot, All-Baby-Loving People United CLOSING DOWN THE STREETS OF SOUTH BEND singing

"We Shall Overcome --- O Ma-ri-a!...."

Please forgive me if I've pinged you more than once. I'm getting kinda excited, here... Please click on the links and get involved!


See #17 for a list of the Fellows of the University,
and #48 for the excellent reasons why we should be contacting, in particular, the Fellows.

Paper, printer, snail-mail!

Ready, set, GO!


Not just Catholiocs, but anybody and everybody, please write to your local Catholic bishop and strongly urge him to make a statement against the Obama Scandal. The Cardinal Newman Society website has strong quotes from the statements of the 17 bishops who have already spoken out against Notre Dame, and these should be PRINTED AND SENT TO YOUR BISHOP, as a good example, encouragement, and template for his own actions.

Gotta go now. I'm doing that right now.

U.S. Bishops by Diocese

U.S. Bishops in Alphabetical Order

Clickable U.S. Map of Dioceses by State

18 posted on 04/06/2009 11:44:42 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West" - Aragorn)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Good work.


19 posted on 04/06/2009 12:00:26 PM PDT by TheFourthMagi
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To: 185JHP; 2harddrive; 230FMJ; 50mm; 50sDad; 5thGenTexan; 668 - Neighbor of the Beast; ...
WE CAN WIN THE BATTLE OF NOTRE DAME!
STOP OBAMA
at
NOTRE DAME
Ping List

Unless told otherwise, I will cheerfully keep you on my list.

If you want me to delete your name, I will just as cheerfully remove you if you will send me a "Private Message".

I'm asking for "Private Message" for deletions only, to ensure that I see your request.

This thing keeps getting bigger every day. As the song says, "Onward to Victory!"


Today's Action List


Click #17 for a list of the Fellows of the University,
and #48 for excellent reasons why we should be sending snappy snail-mail letters, in particular, to the Fellows.

Paper, printer, snail-mail!

Ready, set, GO!


Not just Catholics, but anybody and everybody, please write to your local Catholic bishop and strongly urge him to make a statement against the Obama Scandal. The Cardinal Newman Society website has strong quotes from the statements of the 17 bishops who have already spoken out against Notre Dame, and these should be PRINTED AND SENT TO YOUR BISHOP, as a good example, encouragement, and template for his own actions.

Gotta go now. I'm doing that right now.

U.S. Bishops by Diocese

U.S. Bishops in Alphabetical Order

Clickable U.S. Map of Dioceses by State

20 posted on 04/06/2009 12:00:32 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West" - Aragorn)
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To: bgill

True.


21 posted on 04/06/2009 12:00:54 PM PDT by TheFourthMagi
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To: mlizzy

I have not read the article yet, but I can say this for sure, the modern day weapon against all this evil is the Holy Rosary... if only more catholics would pray it!!!!!!


22 posted on 04/06/2009 12:14:27 PM PDT by diamond6 (Is SIDS preventable? www.Stopsidsnow.com)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Thank you for the reply! I understand. Stay excited!

BEst REgards


23 posted on 04/06/2009 12:18:38 PM PDT by ripley
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Thank you for staying on top of this issue!

Your efforts are REALLY appreciated!

Dominus vobiscum!

Kelly

24 posted on 04/06/2009 12:37:13 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: mlizzy

I guess Obama missed her course, huh?

25 posted on 04/06/2009 12:47:46 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: mlizzy
Petition www.notredamescandal.com/
26 posted on 04/06/2009 12:59:37 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: EyeGuy

There were no pictures or video of that event. The pope wouldn’t allow it!


27 posted on 04/06/2009 1:45:06 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Bush's recession, Obama's depression.)
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To: TAdams8591; EyeGuy

The Pope finessed her—plain and simple. God bless the Pope.

I don’t believe that she was expecting it to go that way, neither. Often pride won’t let a person know when they have been trumped.


28 posted on 04/06/2009 2:07:22 PM PDT by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words:"It's too late"))
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To: Running On Empty

that should be “go that way, either”


29 posted on 04/06/2009 2:08:08 PM PDT by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words:"It's too late"))
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To: Running On Empty

Agreed. : )


30 posted on 04/06/2009 2:16:05 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Bush's recession, Obama's depression.)
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To: All

Promised hubby I’d post this White House No. for those of us who are against FOCA and all it entails. The number is available Monday through Friday from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m.

202-456-1111.

Call and register your message to the POTUS now. We have to stop the Congress from passing the law stating there is no out for “conscientious objection” to the provision of abortion. If it passes it will leave our physicians and hospitals with no other choice than “civil disobedience” and that surely won’t turn out well.


31 posted on 04/06/2009 2:23:18 PM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: All

That’s Eastern Time.


32 posted on 04/06/2009 2:24:10 PM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Running On Empty

Finesse won’t do it.

THe world needed a more overt statement.


33 posted on 04/06/2009 4:19:10 PM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: TAdams8591

Pictures surfaced in the media, likely from prior meetings, but that does not matter.

For all the rest of the world knew, including the casual Catholics who need it most, Pelosi was not admonished by the Pope.


34 posted on 04/06/2009 4:21:53 PM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: EyeGuy
And who are you to be criticizing the Holy Father?

The Pope is concerned with Nancy Pelosi's soul, not politics. He is not concerned about what the media MAKES UP, nor what ignorant people infer based on things over which he has no control.

The Pope is also a head of state. In that capacity, he must meet with dignitaries from foreign governments. That has included people like Tarik Aziz of Iraq, Bill Clinton, and Prince Charles, none of whom are a model of moral rectitude. I don't believe that anyone thinks that either Pope Benedict or Pope John Paul endorsed any of these people's numerous sins.

I suggest that you think and pray about your attitude during this week.

35 posted on 04/06/2009 5:18:49 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple

“The Pope is concerned with Nancy Pelosi’s soul, not politics.”

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You are responding as an informed, devout and interested Catholic. Although I am also of that camp, I am taking the substantially less informed perspective of the world at large and the casual Catholic, both of whom will only view these events on a somewhat superficial level. That is a significant difference.

Ask your not-so-devout Catholic friends what they know about Pelosi’s audience with the Holy Father.

Like it or not, while the Pope is rightly primarily concerned with Pelosi’s soul, his public actions do have significant consequences for the health of The Church.

The Church of which he is the Shepard is facing serious problems largely because of a failure of leadership, and in this case a failure to make a public demonstration of the primacy with which it views the issue of abortion.

Whom am I to question? You and I obviously differ on the theological implications of the duality of the Holy Father’s infallability.


36 posted on 04/06/2009 5:48:28 PM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: EyeGuy
Since we do not know all the things the Holy Father might be concerned with, a little charity would be in order.

For example, what would be the ramifications of the Pope singling out Nancy Pelosi and publicly attacking her? I don't know, but those are things popes have to be concerned with. I am certain he isn't wanting a dual church system set up here, like they have in China. I think it quite likely the democrats might try to do that. A government approved church for the CINO's and those loyal to the Faith having to attend masses in homes in secret.

As far as those who aren't faithful or even Catholics, it wouldn't matter if he did publicly chastise her. No one would know, because the press wouldn't cover it and would just publish old photos anyway.

The problem we have in this country is the press. They twist things and ignore things until most of the public hasn't the least idea of what's going on. I prefer that the Pope not make futile gestures for photo ops, since they would be ignored anyway. It's better that he met her in private and no doubt told her where she is wrong. It make take a while to sink into her little pea brain, but I have confidence in the Holy Spirit.

37 posted on 04/06/2009 6:36:11 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Mrs. Don-o

BTTT


38 posted on 04/06/2009 6:48:20 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Miss Marple; EyeGuy

I agree with your post.

Very little is accomplished by on-going fault-finding with the Pope.

And he can’t be expected to have personal control of millions under his care. That is why we are obligated to pray for him at every Mass, which we do—even if it is ever so carelessly and thoughtlessly done, it still remains in our liturgical prayers to pray for him. He is on a veritable “via crucis” and he needs all the Simons of Cyrene and Veronicas that there are to bear the Cross with him.

God bless this Pope—this man at the most difficult hour in human history.


39 posted on 04/06/2009 7:44:32 PM PDT by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words:"It's too late"))
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To: EyeGuy
>> Sorry, but the perception of the majority of the world, is that Pelosi visited the Pope and he did nothing to address her full scale support of abortion, while calling herself a Catholic. <<

Really?

Pope Benedict Strongly Rebukes Pelosi Over Abortion

>> Yeah, sure no POSED photo-op. There were pictures and video of the Holy Father greeting Her Heinousness. <<

I entered "Pelosi Benedict" in Google's image search, and didn't see any pictures of him greeting her in Rome. The closest was a picture of her bowing to him in President Bush's rose garden reception. I went through several hundred pictures. Not one of her in Rome with Benedict. If there are any such pictures, they were not widely published.

40 posted on 04/07/2009 4:26:54 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Mrs. Don-o; All

The MSM coverage of this event will attempt to show Catholic’s are in disarray on the question of birth. While I can’t attend I’m tempted to suggest this

Because they won’t cover that protest,Target those camp followers press support vehicles which are comming to report on their messia when he shows up on campus and shower them with rotten garbage,and bags of liquid red paint but then I think better of it. So I do not suggest doing something like this.


41 posted on 04/07/2009 5:20:59 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (2010 One year to a new census and congressional redistricting, we need a strong hand in the House)
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To: dangus

My experience was with VIDEO coverage on local news. Another Freeper indicated that FoxNews showed a smiling Pope greeting Pelosi. Now, this may have been archival footage, but that really doesn’t matter. In the absence of a refusal to meet with Pelosi, or an overt, public direction to abstain from taking Holy Communion, that image is ALL that most people are going to remember.

A picture showing a smiling Holy Father greeting Pelosi was, for some reason, pulled from this thread (Comment 10). This, too may have been from a prior meeting.

BUT AGAIN, my point has nothing to do with the devout, informed Catholics who are paying attention.

To the casual Catholics and the rest of the Christian world, Pelosi was seen in the mass media, as being greeted by the Pope and nothing overt was said regarding her staunch support of abortion.

Images, even if oudated, were allowed to trump any message of admonition.

There is much concern about the message that allowing Obama to speak at Notre Dame sends to the laity and perhaps the rest of the world regarding Catholicism. Logically, this is in the same vein.


42 posted on 04/07/2009 5:48:03 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: dangus

Do you really think anyone but the non-devout read articles from the Catholic New Agency?

Ask your casual Catholic friends or other Christians what they know about Pelosi’s visit with the Holy Father?

Ask them if they are aware of the Holy Father’s “strong rebuke”.


43 posted on 04/07/2009 5:51:07 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: EyeGuy

non-devout = devout


44 posted on 04/07/2009 6:14:43 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: EyeGuy

The pope’s rebuke of Nancy Pelosi was covered by every major news source in America, as integral to the coverage of Nancy Pelosi’s visit. It’s time you admit you were wrong and get on with it.

Reuters: http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE51H3VT20090218
CNN: http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/18/pope.pelosi/index.html
Fox News: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/02/18/pelosi-pope-meeting-minds/
CBS: http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/02/18/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry4809863.shtml
ABC: http://abcnews.go.com/International/WireStory?id=6903647&page=2
MSNBC/NBC: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29256800
AP http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2009Feb18/0,4670,EUVaticanUSPelosi,00.html
NY Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/19/us/19pelosi.html?ref=politics


45 posted on 04/07/2009 9:10:58 AM PDT by dangus
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To: EyeGuy

>> Images, even if oudated, were allowed to trump any message of admonition. <<

So the pope’s fault, then, is that he has not the viciously anti-Christian American press posted the wrong pictures? If the pope refuses an audience with Speaker Pelosi, it doesn’t make the news at all. Instead, the pope created an opportunity to speak out to the entire world of the need for legislators to protect life.


46 posted on 04/07/2009 9:14:23 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

Conversations with co-workers, family and even fellow Knights of Columbus,regarding their understanding of Pelosi’s audience with the Holy Father, indicate that I was not “wrong”, your tidy little listing of new reports, nothwithstanding.


47 posted on 04/07/2009 9:22:00 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: dangus

“So the pope’s fault, then, is that he has not the viciously anti-Christian American press posted the wrong pictures?”

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Not his “fault”, but don’t you think that the Vatican should take into account the proclivities of the vile, anti-Catholic media?

To devout, engaged Catholics, hammering Pelosi publicly may seem like killing a gnat with a sledgehammer, but as I have stated repeatedly, the public at large, including the casual Catholic laity, apparently needs it plainly spelled out for them.

The huge Catholic support for Obama in the past election should make it quite clear that the message of what it means to be Catholic, is not getting across via such subtle measures as the private, closed-door rebuke of a pro-abortion “Catholic” American politician.


48 posted on 04/07/2009 9:47:26 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Why did you put me on a ping list I never asked to be on?


49 posted on 04/07/2009 10:32:55 AM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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To: EyeGuy

>> Conversations with co-workers, family and even fellow Knights of Columbus,regarding their understanding of Pelosi’s audience with the Holy Father, indicate that I was not “wrong”, your tidy little listing of new reports, nothwithstanding. <<

Right. I checked every major press outlet and every one of them quoted the pope’s denunciation of Pelosi. But everyone you know somehow missed that part, but everyone you know caught the old footage of Pelosi in line in DC at the White House, and everyone you know mistook it for her meeting with the pope.

Riiiiight. “Everyone I know” thinks that’s silly.


50 posted on 04/07/2009 11:24:33 AM PDT by dangus
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