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Bachmann warns gov't creating 're-education camps'
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Posted on 04/06/2009 10:10:20 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Bachmann warns gov't creating 're-education camps' @ 1:04 pm by Michael O'Brien

The government is at risk of creating "re-education camps for young people," Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.).

"I believe that there is a very strong chance that we will see that young people will be put into mandatory service," Bachmann said on a Minnesota radio show Monday. "And the real concerns is that there are provisions for what I would call re-education camps for young people, where young people have to go and get trained in a philosophy that the government puts forward and then they have to go to work in some of these politically correct forums."

Bachmann was talking about the Serve America Act, passed recently in Congress as a way to encourage community service for young Americans.

"It’s under the guise of — quote — volunteerism," she said. "But it’s not volunteers at all. It’s paying people to do work on behalf of government."

Bachmann has been anything but quiet during this term in Congress, with her outspoken remarks often drawing the ire of liberal bloggers.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bachmann; bho44; congress; conservative; democrats; michellebachmann; obama; obamafascism; serveamericaact
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1 posted on 04/06/2009 10:10:20 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

We know the FEMA camps exist. Maybe these camps are being built under a benevolent name.


2 posted on 04/06/2009 10:14:25 AM PDT by Professor_Leonide (I said to the young man who showed me a photo, "Who can ever be sure what is behind a mask?")
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To: Sub-Driver

I thought Public Schools were already re-education camps???

The Obama newspeak Dictionary:

Student Volunteer = Conscripted brainwashed Nation Security Force footsoldier

Man-Made Natural Disaster Coordinator = Islamic Terrorist

Government Bailout = Fascist Government Take-over


3 posted on 04/06/2009 10:15:00 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Sub-Driver

Bachmann and Palin have more guts than the entire male GOP in the House and Senate. There are a few Repubs men that are pretty good but Bachmann and Sarah are fireballs. God bless em.

I really like Bachmann - she is also a cutie like Sarah.

Palin-Bachmann 2012


4 posted on 04/06/2009 10:15:06 AM PDT by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: Frantzie

Proud to say she’s my Congresscritter.


5 posted on 04/06/2009 10:16:28 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: Sub-Driver

"You will know the peace of Obama..."

6 posted on 04/06/2009 10:16:40 AM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: WOBBLY BOB

I like her!


7 posted on 04/06/2009 10:17:24 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: Sub-Driver

Didn’t the lib tinfoilers say Bush was going to do this?

I don’t recall so much abominable legislation during Bush’s time in office that would clearly indicate that as I have during Zero’s short reign of error.

Nothing hurts a lib like the truth, especially when it comes from the other side.


8 posted on 04/06/2009 10:18:27 AM PDT by Califreak (111th Congress: Destroying America With Reckless Abandon)
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To: Sub-Driver
I had to go look up this Rep. Michele Bachmann (Minn). She's attractive and conservative. Obviously the loony left has taken notice and are already photoshopping this "evil" person who is out to destroy their welfare ride.

Michele Bachmann

The loony left's handy work...
"Evil Bachmann"


9 posted on 04/06/2009 10:19:30 AM PDT by avacado
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To: Frantzie

Michelle is the real deal. I was fortunate to spend a few hours in her company at a 4th of July parade in 2006. She is destined for a bigger role in the conservative movement. She’s earned her ‘chops.’


10 posted on 04/06/2009 10:19:35 AM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: Califreak

Oh, I dunno - to the truth add scorn and derisive laughter and most libs would have a stroke.


11 posted on 04/06/2009 10:21:11 AM PDT by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger ....)
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To: GraceG
I thought Public Schools were already re-education camps???

If only more people were this with it.

12 posted on 04/06/2009 10:21:33 AM PDT by freespirited (Is this a nation of laws or a nation of Democrats? -- Charles Krauthammer)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Hey Wobbly!

She’s ‘almost’ my Congresscritter. I can’t complain much about John Kline, though. He’s a solid guy. Gotta love Michelle’s chutzpah though!


13 posted on 04/06/2009 10:22:23 AM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: Sub-Driver

bttt


14 posted on 04/06/2009 10:22:37 AM PDT by Guenevere ("He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep, to gain that which he cannot lose")
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To: Sub-Driver

Here ya’ go:

“When an opponent declares, ‘I will not come over to your side,’ I calmly say, ‘Your child belongs to us already... What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community.’”
- Adolph Hitler

Although you wouldn’t think so based on the November election. apparently Obamessiah thinks the government schools are taking too long.


15 posted on 04/06/2009 10:26:48 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Charles Martel

Looks like a scene out of STAR TREK original series. Am I right?


16 posted on 04/06/2009 10:27:19 AM PDT by prismsinc (A.K.A. "The Terminator"!)
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To: Charles Martel
How fitting.

"You will be absorbed."

17 posted on 04/06/2009 10:27:53 AM PDT by labette ( Humble student of Thinkology)
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To: avacado

NOT GUILTY!


18 posted on 04/06/2009 10:28:11 AM PDT by prismsinc (A.K.A. "The Terminator"!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Zero Brigade: DO they constitute?

1. Posse comatatus = Uniformed service, they will have uniforms wont they?
2. 13th Amendment = Involutary servitude, me working for ACORN.

1. The Act prohibits most members of the federal uniformed services (today the Army, Air Force, and State National Guard forces when such are called into federal service) from exercising nominally state law enforcement, police, or peace officer powers that maintain “law and order” on non-federal property (states and their counties and municipal divisions) within the United States.

2. The Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution makes involuntary servitude illegal under any U.S. jurisdiction whether at the hands of the U.S. government or in the private sphere, except as punishment for a crime: “Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.”

The Libertarian Party of the United States and other libertarians consider military conscription to be involuntary servitude in the sense of the Thirteenth Amendment. Some libertarians consider compulsory schooling and income taxation forms of involuntary servitude.[1][unreliable source?][not in citation given]


19 posted on 04/06/2009 10:29:07 AM PDT by keving (We get the government we vote for)
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To: GraceG
I thought Public Schools were already re-education camps???

Part of this legislation may be a response to homeschooling. And, since we are on the subject, any word on whether or not parents will be welcome at these camps?
20 posted on 04/06/2009 10:29:33 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: Charles Martel

Well, at least we have Festival to look forward to...

21 posted on 04/06/2009 10:29:52 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: prismsinc

Yep - first season, IIRC. One of the many “Kirk outsmarts a computer” episodes.


22 posted on 04/06/2009 10:31:41 AM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: labette

Peace and joy to you, FRiend.


23 posted on 04/06/2009 10:31:49 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: nutmeg

bookmark


24 posted on 04/06/2009 10:32:34 AM PDT by nutmeg (DemocRATs: The party of tax cheats and other assorted crooks)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Well, at least we have Festival to look forward to...

Dang, I'm late. The Red Hour has struck! ;-)

25 posted on 04/06/2009 10:33:30 AM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Joy and contentment...


26 posted on 04/06/2009 10:34:13 AM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: Sub-Driver
Representative Michele Bachmann ...
ROCKS!

IMO, Michele Bachmann needs to be added to the 'FR rules'.
She's a babe ;-)

27 posted on 04/06/2009 10:38:10 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: GraceG

And where has the world seen this before?


28 posted on 04/06/2009 10:38:13 AM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: avacado

Ha ha,

She is still prettier that Clinton, Pelosi, or Obama.


29 posted on 04/06/2009 10:38:49 AM PDT by TFMcGuire (Life is tough. It is even tougher if you are stupid--John Wayne)
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To: Charles Martel

Are you of the body ?


30 posted on 04/06/2009 10:39:31 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Hey, isn’t Landrieu a Senator from LA?


31 posted on 04/06/2009 10:42:09 AM PDT by eCSMaster
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To: Sub-Driver

Here’s some background information. The Makers of Modern Schooling:

http://johntaylorgatto.com/historytour/history1.htm

I’m still going through the site, so read with open mind.


32 posted on 04/06/2009 10:42:59 AM PDT by NavySEAL F-16
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To: eCSMaster

Do you say that Landr(ie)u is not everywhere ?


33 posted on 04/06/2009 10:43:30 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Frantzie; WOBBLY BOB; Sub-Driver; Professor_Leonide
Let's work from the truth here.

Bachmann is quoted as saying; "And the real concerns is that there are provisions for what I would call re-education camps for young people, where young people have to go and get trained in a philosophy that the government puts forward and then they have to go to work in some of these politically correct forums."

That is just not true.

HR1388 has bothered me for a long time, so I did the unthinkable...I read it.

There is enough buried in its 260 pages to piss us off (eg. money for Acorn-type organizations) but there is absolutely no language that makes any particpation mandatory for any age group.

The implementation of the school-age volunteer corps requires:

That the state and local educational regulating boards must buy in...

The States must research and select new 'campus' sites every year...

A pre-existing local not-for-profit must apply to run the program and must put up anywhere from 15-50% of the monies (year one to year three).

The ambitions for student participation are very low, maxing out at 250,000 in year 2017.

There are other potentially disturbing but in reality, I think, limiting factors...in particular the requirement that at least 50% of the student "participants" be disadvantaged.

You couldn't find five "disadvantaged" youths in my district. You would find even fewer parents in my district who would have their kids spend the summer at a SUNY Campus with ghetto kids.

My opinion is that HR1388 is designed to function only in the inner cities. That is troubling on many levels and may be the first step toward the slippery slope or the creation of an 'inner-city' born and trained political corps but it is not what is described by Bachmann.

34 posted on 04/06/2009 10:45:16 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: Frantzie

“Palin-Bachmann 2012”

Wouldn’t THAT be a pair to draw to? Each one has more cojones than Hussein does, and they actually love their country.


35 posted on 04/06/2009 10:45:31 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (What the HELL happened to MY COUNTRY?!?)
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To: Califreak

Each side has accused the other of planning this since Nixon was President. I guess I will believe it if they come drag my grandkids away. Until then it is tinfoil talk IMO.


36 posted on 04/06/2009 10:46:48 AM PDT by mono
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To: Professor_Leonide
We know the FEMA camps exist.

Oh yeah.. The YouTube "FEMA" camp videos being pushed by the Far Left as American.. are actually in North Korea.
37 posted on 04/06/2009 10:47:20 AM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts ("Hey Liberals.. We don't lower our standards, so up yours!" - Andrew Wilkow show)
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To: Sub-Driver

Only the Liberals’ kids will be attending.


38 posted on 04/06/2009 10:48:06 AM PDT by DTogo (Time to bring back the Sons of Liberty.)
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To: freespirited
I thought Public Schools were already re-education camps???

If only more people were this with it.


If only more people stood up for their values in the public arena instead of cowering in home and private schools.

If your public schools are government indroctination centers, it's because you allowed them to made into such.

The culture war must be fought in the public schools. When you run from the fight, we wind up with jackass abortionists being invited to speak at Notre Dame.
39 posted on 04/06/2009 10:49:48 AM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (In last year's nests, there are no birds this year.)
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To: mono

>Each side has accused the other of planning this since Nixon was President.<

Maybe so, but I don’t remember hearing all this stuff about “mandatory volunteerism” before.

Maybe I just wasn’t paying attention then.


40 posted on 04/06/2009 10:51:30 AM PDT by Califreak (111th Congress: Destroying America With Reckless Abandon)
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To: AD from SpringBay

It’s pretty obvious to a paranoid like me that this “mandatory voluntary service” is for indoctrinating those that escape indoctrination in public schools.

My lib-inlaw thinks this service is a good idea, even if it’s mandatory. She doesn’t agree with “sheltering” kids from leftist ideology.

I’m betting she hasn’t thought of the implications. The gov’t will have to come and take my kids by force and shoot me in the process. Libs never think beyond their feelings to the results of their ideology.


41 posted on 04/06/2009 10:52:04 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: Sub-Driver

Not to ignore what she says but we already have them, they are called universities.


42 posted on 04/06/2009 10:52:40 AM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: wtc911

Mandatory language was taken out of HR1388,

but snuck in later, en toto, in HR1444.


43 posted on 04/06/2009 10:54:00 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: Sub-Driver

***The government is at risk of creating “re-education camps for young people,” Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.). ****

I am reminded of an old (1965) political cartoon from LBJ’s War on Poverty...

A hillbilly family ...

Maw...”I see the President has declared war on poverty!”

Paw (laying in the shade sipping on a bottle)...”Well if he wants me to join he is going to have to draft me!”


44 posted on 04/06/2009 10:55:14 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (14. Guns only have two enemies: rust and politicians.)
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To: ConservativeWarrior

They won’t let parents in the classroom to counter the teacher when s/he teaches everything from godless assumptions.

So, we homeschool.


45 posted on 04/06/2009 10:55:23 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: MrB

where in hr1444?


46 posted on 04/06/2009 10:58:01 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: ConservativeWarrior

I dont think it’s that simple. A lot of people have stood up for their values in regard to Notre Dame. Standing up sometimes leads to success sometimes not.

Similarly, textbooks used by schools all over the country are influenced by decisions made in California and other big states. Parents elsewhere have essentially zero influence on those decisions.


47 posted on 04/06/2009 10:58:41 AM PDT by freespirited (Is this a nation of laws or a nation of Democrats? -- Charles Krauthammer)
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To: wtc911

H.R. 1444: Congressional Commission on Civic Service Act

Identical in every single way to the 1388 text - they didn’t even rearrange the section numbers (6.b I believe):

(5) The effect on the Nation, on those who serve, and on the families of those who serve, if all individuals in the United States were expected to perform national service or were required to perform a certain amount of national service.

(6) Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.


48 posted on 04/06/2009 11:03:20 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: MrB
HR1444 is in committee in the House, miles away from passing. HR1388 has passed both Senate and House votes. It is being tweaked for signature.

There is, as you say, the use in HR1444 of the word mandatory but it is in an exploratory fashion (still nefarious).

The more troubling issue is the intention to create a National Service Academy to be run like West Point but for career civil servants. This is the brain child of a couple of far left enviro-queers who have been lobbying for years to make this happen.

I'll see if I can find their site...it's spooky.

49 posted on 04/06/2009 11:08:42 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: Sub-Driver
We already have Marxist re-education classes for young people.

They're called universities.

50 posted on 04/06/2009 11:09:06 AM PDT by Bullish ( Reality is the best cure for delusion.)
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