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FBI InfraGard warns of a crescendo of public concern about Obama's eligibility
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Posted on 04/06/2009 4:21:03 PM PDT by cycle of discernment

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To: pissant; BuckeyeTexan; Calpernia; Fred Nerks; null and void; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; ...

Here’s a request by BuckeyeTexan for eveyone to read #138 and #144, but also, in all fairness, please read #149 by pissant before making a judgement.

151 posted on 04/06/2009 10:11:57 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: LucyT

Yes, I think we can all agree this is not an FBI document. It does not claim to be either.

152 posted on 04/06/2009 10:12:44 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party:
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To: pissant; BuckeyeTexan

InfraGard offices are located in the same building or the immediate area of FBI field offices. Each office has an FBI agent detailed to it, and is directed by the FBI in accordance with PPD-63.

That’s a quasi FBI agency to me. LOL

153 posted on 04/06/2009 10:13:58 PM PDT by papasmurf (Trow da' bum out!)
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To: pissant
Tasked by the FBI to provide "informational analysis" on conditions which could be construed as potentially harmful to civil order and national security, InfraGard, of the FBI's National Infrastructure Protection Center (NIPC), issued an unclassified Protective Intelligence Communication report in March 2009 regarding the "crescendo" of public concern about Obama's presidential eligibility.

That sentence is partially true with the purpose of misleading anyone who reads it.

The FBI NIPC referenced in that sentence was transferred to the Department of Homeland Security in 2003. Generally speaking, InfraGard was "tasked" to provide such analysis after 9/11/2001. Their role after 2003 is still being defined and coordinated by FBI Special Agent Coordinators at each local chapter.

Membership in InfraGard is by local chapter. In this case, Arizona. There are several InfraGard chapters in Arizona. None of them issued this document.

Dr. Rapacki authored this document on his own. He referenced his membership in InfraGard as a means to associate the document with the FBI, which is disingenuous. Whoever wrote that first sentence of this story did so with the purpose of hijacking the stated purpose and goal of the InfraGard organization to lend credibility to this white paper.

154 posted on 04/06/2009 10:14:51 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
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Oh, sorry. judgement = judgment

155 posted on 04/06/2009 10:15:25 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: BuckeyeTexan; Calpernia; Fred Nerks; null and void; pissant; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; ...

Another comment by BuckeyeTexan.

156 posted on 04/06/2009 10:17:57 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: bushpilot1
Which website? InfraGard does exist. It's a public private partnership between the FBI and the private security industry. However, InfraGard didn't sponsor this document.
157 posted on 04/06/2009 10:17:59 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
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To: papasmurf
...I'm still PO'd, as are many of us, that 0bama wasn't investigated...ever!

You can add me to the top of that list! I can't remember the last time I've been so infuriated. Grrrr...

158 posted on 04/06/2009 10:19:51 PM PDT by Montana_Gal ("Uh...Uh...She's a Typical White person" -B. Hussein Obama)
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To: cycle of discernment

I don’t get it. He implicitly gave up any “rights to privacy” so far as matters relating to his place and time of birth the moment he filled out an application to run for president.

The courts got it bass ackwards on this one, so does the Hawaii Dept of Vital Statistics...

159 posted on 04/06/2009 10:21:12 PM PDT by djf (If Congress was a business, they'd all be in jail by now...)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Say what? LOL

160 posted on 04/06/2009 10:22:16 PM PDT by papasmurf (Trow da' bum out!)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Where was Rush today? Sick or vacation?

161 posted on 04/06/2009 10:24:12 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: BuckeyeTexan

The article appears to have been written by a poster on Defend Our Freedoms named DefendUSx , and posted to the board by:

Posted by Dr. Orly Taitz at 4/5/2009 3:45 PM. That gives it some credence, in my book.

OTOH, I have searched and find no (so called) accredited news organizations carrying this story. A million blogs and forums, but no MSM. So, I don’t know what to think.

162 posted on 04/06/2009 10:34:58 PM PDT by papasmurf (Trow da' bum out!)
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To: penelopesire; All

(NOTE: Many links are not working here due to my lack of html expertise. Go to The Infragard Website)

nfraGard is a public-private volunteer organization that serves as the critical link that forms a tightly-knit working relationship across all levels.


INMA Announces Chairman's Corner Newsletter
The INMA has begun producing a monthly newsletter, "Chairman's Corner"  to be sent out to all members.  The first issue was sent out on 08 September.  The second one was dist...

Dr. Kathleen Kiernan Named as Chairman of the Boa...
A 29-year Federal Law Enforcement official is the new leader of the InfraGard National Members Alliance. InfraGard was started by the FBI 12 years ago as an allianc...



Welcome and congratulations for taking the first step to building a safer and more secure Country by joining a tremendous organization with over 26,000 members in 86 chapters, representing all 18 sectors of our Nation’s critical infrastructures.  These are selfless men and women who choose to volunteer their time, their knowledge, and their experience to make a difference through collaboration, the sharing of best practices and building relationship based on trust to protect critical infrastructure from physical and cyber threats.  If you are already a member, thank you! If not, what are you waiting for?
Dr. Kathleen L. Kiernan
Chairman of the Board
InfraGard National Members Alliance


Open Forum

© 2006, InfraGard National Members Alliance

163 posted on 04/06/2009 10:36:51 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
I found, what I think is, a copy of the original letter (White paper). It is HERE.

Interesting to note, is that it begins with this statement:

From Dr. Orly Taitz:

“NOTE from Defend Our Freedoms Foundation Staff.

The below report states: “if Mr Obama fights unsealing his documentation…there will be civil unrest unleashed on the streets”

InfraGrad has a Public Private Partnership with the FBI. The PPP programs has been leveraged heavily from local to international levels to render entities back into Panopolies. The term panopoly was coined by Joseph Borkin, chief economic advisor of the Anti-trust Division of the Department of Justice circa 1943, during his investigations of I.G. Farben because the aggregation of businesses were much larger than a monopoly or cartel.




March the 16th, 2009

Statement of Purpose:

The content of this White Paper is deliberately intended to stimulate thought and discussion. Informational analysis comprising global security, national security of the United States of America, socio-political-economic forces as a dimension to national security, culture, freedom in human rights, defense and the rule of law are considered within the framework of this treatise.


Beginning as campaign rhetoric, the question of Barak Obama’s legal status as a citizen of the United States of America qualified to serve as President, is moving toward a crescendo that might be heard formally by the United States Supreme Court. Downplayed by many, including U.S. Senators on the Republican side and even Senators serving on the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee as late as Friday of last week, a significant meeting occurred last Thursday, March 12th in Idaho. The Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court was speaking before a large audience (800 in attendance, including the President of the Idaho State Bar Association) on the character of Abraham Lincoln, when attorney Orly Taitz of Mission Viejo, California came to the microphone and asked the Chief Justice if he would personally review a legal brief and a complaint signed by over 325,000 American citizens as to the Constitutionality of Barak Obama’s swearing-in as President. Chief Justice Roberts personally agreed to review the legal brief and the complaint saying such in front of the audience.

Motions to be heard on this critical Constitutional matter have been dismissed already, or not even accepted by courts in many states – New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Georgia, Washington, Texas, North Carolina to name a few. But the issue will not go away; it is morphing now to include active members of the Armed Forces serving in “Hot Zones” or theatres of combat. The legal motion handed


It also is prefaced with a summary of a C.V....of sorts.
164 posted on 04/06/2009 10:45:41 PM PDT by papasmurf (Trow da' bum out!)
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To: papasmurf
Dr. Taitz posted the document because Dr. Rapacki wrote it in support of HER cases. He makes direct reference to Dr. Taitz and her cases.
165 posted on 04/06/2009 11:03:52 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
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To: papasmurf

I’ve never heard Orly Taitz advocate violence. I am not aware she ever has. I have heard her express that she has heard other people TALKING openly about things like this (where or how many, who knows!).

This report reads as if she herself has called for this directly, or as if she has the means and the “power” to direct something like this, and has threatened to take a specific course of action in relation to her case, or others. I find that very hard to believe, unless there is some other evidence besides this very piecemeal quote. Her comment is also one small part of what presumably is a paragraph, and in instances like this it is important to look at the CONTEXT of the statement.

IMHO, it appears she may be at risk of being set up as a scapegoat. I certainly hope not...

166 posted on 04/06/2009 11:05:31 PM PDT by LibertyRocks ( ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF :
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Interesting. Thanks for posting the information you have. I’m relieved... :) I withdraw my above comments in light of your information...

What’s scary is that the way things are in this country right now it’s no wonder people are a little jumpy about things like this... We know history and what most all Communist/Fascist governments have done to their opponents.

167 posted on 04/06/2009 11:09:29 PM PDT by LibertyRocks ( ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF :
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I don’t have an issue with that. :O)

168 posted on 04/06/2009 11:20:16 PM PDT by papasmurf (Trow da' bum out!)
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To: LucyT

Thanks Lucy, I am sorry my prophesy is wrong and that Obama would be removed from office inside of the 90 day mark like I predicted two months ago.

I think there is a few people from NSA doing some overtime lately though.

169 posted on 04/06/2009 11:35:11 PM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: LibertyRocks

I think the true “context” of this whole thing is to get people to think. Not to incite. But, to extrapolate our circumstances, add in what our experience has taught us, and think about the possibilities that could be the outcome.

I respect Dr. Taitz very much. I love what she is doing in her efforts to help us save our Country. I really wished I were wealthy, and I could bankroll her, and others, in this.

170 posted on 04/06/2009 11:36:18 PM PDT by papasmurf (Trow da' bum out!)
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To: SonOfPyrodex

U.S. citizens own 270 million of the world’s 875 million known firearms, according to the Small Arms Survey 2007 by the Geneva-based Graduate Institute of International Studies...”

600,000 armed government agents.

60,000,000 gun owners.

They start it. We finish it.
If that was the number in 2007, my God, think what it is now. The sales since November have nearly cleaned out everything. Ammo, guns, stocks, mags, you name it, it’s probably sold out.

171 posted on 04/07/2009 12:03:25 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: pissant

They should remember who they work for, the Citizens of this great country. They are to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic. This has gone on long enough!! Show us the original Birth Certificate, or get your sorry ass out of our White House.

172 posted on 04/07/2009 12:24:22 AM PDT by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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173 posted on 04/07/2009 2:43:02 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: pissant

Just as the F.B.I. can not release John Kerry’s military records they can not release obamma lamma ding dongs birth certificate.
Even though he may not be legal. Just look at how the secret service and F.B.I. turned an eye when Bill Clinton broke the law.
Should give ya comfort and confidence in our govt huh?

174 posted on 04/07/2009 2:47:13 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: F15Eagle

Gotta start somewhere.

175 posted on 04/07/2009 4:46:56 AM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: April Lexington
Exactly, and that is why the eligibility crisis will not go away until we get hard facts about who is who and what is what,no more Totus BS.
176 posted on 04/07/2009 4:49:05 AM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: papasmurf; LibertyRocks

That is what I call selective posting. The letter is HERE:

The note from “NOTE from Defend Our Freedoms Foundation Staff” was my note. I emphasized a statement from the letter and I added a note as to who Infragrad was.

177 posted on 04/07/2009 5:07:18 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity
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To: penelopesire

As well he might ! Infraguard is the FBI’s own system - now being stretched to the limits by a deliberate (?) campaign,instigated by adherents of Orly Taitz, AS SUGGESTED on her website.

Let’s see: if the FBI gets tangled in trying to deal with vocal,insistent citizens, what might the Bureau not have time to see ?

Loyal opposition to an administration is one thing, but what I’m seeing is something else altogether; and, looking at the “supporting cast” of this “production”, I believe there is cause for concern - if not alarm.

178 posted on 04/07/2009 5:24:29 AM PDT by mrmeangenes
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To: Balata

“The words for the day are STAND DOWN!”

I think the order for the day is STAND UP, the time is now!

179 posted on 04/07/2009 5:38:33 AM PDT by stockpirate ("When governments fear the people, there is liberty. " T. Jefferson)
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To: mrmeangenes

In case you’re windering, this is from the Taitz website:

What else you can do right now:
Visit the FBI! Contact our coordinator for the FBI visits.

Visit the US Attorneys! Contact our coordinator and put US Attorney in the subject line.

Any letters from Congressmen, Senators, electors, etc. should be copied to our coordinator. These letters need to be on letter head. We will accept emails also as long as they have the address of where they came from. Please black out your own personal information. These letters will be submitted to SCOTUS.

Sign up to become a plaintiff if you are active or retired military

View this video and email to your friends and family:

Exactly What is a Natural Born Citizen?

If you are an attorney and would like to assist Dr. Orly Taitz, please feel free to contact her.

Even if you are not an attorney you can help by writing to your state and federal elected representatives to express your concern

Also, contact your state governor

Fax, call or write the authorities:

FBI Chicago Division:

(312) 421-6700 email

United States Secret Service:



U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE):


Honolulu Special Agent Wayne Wills


Steven Whitlock,
IRS whistle blower office:
1111 Constitution Ave., NW
Washington DC 20224 “

180 posted on 04/07/2009 5:40:38 AM PDT by mrmeangenes
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To: mrmeangenes

If Obama is not eligible to hold the office of the President and there has been a deliberate conspiratorial cover-up to place a usurper in the White House, then we do have a problem on our hands. I think this white paper is a good thing that lays it all out in a way that I hope gets some attention.

‘Loyal opposition’ is a term applied to opposing a government without being opposed to the country’s constitution or laws!! I would say that those(like Dr. Orley), who are bringing these lawsuits, are the very definition of ‘loyal opposition’. They are standing up for our country’s laws and constitution! No one is promoting violence and in fact, I suspect that any violence that results from this whole thing, will be started by Obama’s minions.

181 posted on 04/07/2009 5:43:31 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: mrmeangenes

Actually, the 9/11 Commission Reports shows the FBI has been aware of the Chicago mafia, including Obama for years. Yet, they haven’t acted. Citizens should be vocal and insistant. We pay an organization that could have stopped this mafia infiltration years ago.

182 posted on 04/07/2009 5:49:05 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity
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To: PhilDragoo

Racist pixels :P

183 posted on 04/07/2009 5:52:20 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity
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To: PhilDragoo
The pixels thing is BIG.

FReeper buckhead glommed onto a document Dan Rather was using as a forgery (based on tech). Rather got fired.

184 posted on 04/07/2009 6:48:21 AM PDT by Liz (I was like Snow White, then I drifted. Mae West (on liberalism.)
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To: Joe Boucher

There has to be a few patriots working there. How about a big blow of the whistle.

185 posted on 04/07/2009 7:02:42 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party:
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To: mojitojoe
He is NOT a Socialist. It gives he and his partners in crime great comfort when you call him that because it means you are failing to recognize what he really is..... a full fledged COMMUNIST.

Amen. Actually though, I believe Obama is a wierd hybrid. He's somewhere in between a classic fascist and a full fledged communist. That makes him even more dangerous than Hitler or Stalin.

186 posted on 04/07/2009 7:15:11 AM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: LucyT

Thanks, LucyT


187 posted on 04/07/2009 7:45:17 AM PDT by Iowan
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"Um, was O ba ma in the U.S. Senate before running for the presidency? Was he ever given a background check for sensitive material on Senate committees?" No, he wasn't. It isn't required for Senators.
188 posted on 04/07/2009 7:49:39 AM PDT by cookcounty (Obama's got Bush's inheritance .......and now he wants your kids'.)
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To: al baby

You left out their favorite tool/weapon, the high powered and noisy gasoline leaf blower.

189 posted on 04/07/2009 8:01:38 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Does Zer0 have any friends, who are not criminals, foreign/domestic terrorists, or tax cheats?)
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To: PhilosopherStones
And yes, some process needs to be put in place. But be careful what you wish for because DumbO would use that system to shoot down any future conservative candidate.

That would be minor damage compared to releasing the names and addresses of all our intel sources world wide.

190 posted on 04/07/2009 8:12:01 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 78 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: null and void

Not so sure. Phillip Agee did a pretty good job of that and we’re still here.

The problem is that the granting of a security clearance is an extremely subjective process. To give the power to a President or Congress to deny a security clearance to any candidate for national office would be to effectively ensure that the party in power would remain in power forever.

191 posted on 04/07/2009 8:40:11 AM PDT by PhilosopherStones
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To: savedbygrace
Don’t put much credence into this so-called report. Start googling the author and see what you find.

bears repeating.

192 posted on 04/07/2009 9:22:51 AM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: cycle of discernment
"...currently the role of the 3rd Infantry Division's 1st Brigade Combat Team, but which, reportedly, might eventually comprise upwards of 80,000 troops, is being trained and readied to deal with what could be widespread civil disorder resulting from an 'unforeseen economic collapse' or 'loss of a functional political and legal order.' "

A MILITARY response against American citizens interested in Obama's Constitutional eligibility for the office og president??

Welcome to Tienanmen Square.

193 posted on 04/07/2009 9:44:07 AM PDT by cake_crumb (It's better to be "The Party of No" than (continuing as) "The Party of Can't Say No".)
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To: LucyT

President Obama Holds Town Hall Meeting in Istanbul, Turkey - Complete Video 4/7/09

To: Federalist Patriot

At Minute 34:20 into the talk : " somebody like me who has a background of living overseas."


6 posted on Tuesday, April 07, 2009 9:48:17 AM by urtax$@work

194 posted on 04/07/2009 10:05:09 AM PDT by urtax$@work (The best kind of memorial is a Burning Memorial.........)
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To: PreciousLiberty

We can consider this the Curse of Barackula. It’s been a horror show since he’s been in the WH.

195 posted on 04/07/2009 11:08:31 AM PDT by TXRed
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To: Nathan Zachary
That's what I was thinking; locking down Chicago for example, and other places with high Obama supporter neighborhoods.

I'm old enough to remember the riots following Martin Luther King Jr's death. That assassination was a heinous act by a deranged individual; however, it unleashed terrible destruction in at least 60 cities, especially DC, Philadelphia, Baltimore and Chicago. I remember the burned-out shell of what used to be 14th Street in DC, and how very long it took to rebuild this major traffic artery in the Nation's Capital.

I had written some other paragraphs here projecting what would happen this time, but I have erased them. God, help us.

196 posted on 04/07/2009 12:07:27 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Praise and worship" is my alternate lifestyle.)
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To: PhilosopherStones

I cannot verify the accuracy or integrity of the source.

Committee Membership

Barack Obama sits on the following committees:
Member, Senate Committee on Foreign Relations
Chairman, Subcommittee on European Affairs
Member, Subcommittee on African Affairs
Member, Subcommittee on East Asian and Pacific Affairs
Member, Subcommittee on International Development and Foreign Assistance, Economic Affairs and International Environmental Protection
Member, Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions
Member, Subcommittee on Children and Families
Member, Subcommittee on Employment and Workplace Safety
Member, Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs
Member, Subcommittee on Ad Hoc Subcommittee on State, Local, and Private Sector Preparedness and Integration
Member, Subcommittee on Investigations
Member, Subcommittee on Federal Financial Management, Government Information, Federal Services, and International Security
Member, Senate Committee on Veterans’ Affairs

197 posted on 04/07/2009 1:00:09 PM PDT by Faith
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To: penelopesire

If Obama IS eligible to hold the office...and there has been a deliberate conspiratorial attempt to encourage mutiny in the armed forces,and create widespread dissent, leading to civil war -all with the idea of crippling the US without firing a shot - we have quite another problem on our hands, don’t we ?

Measure twice: cut once.

198 posted on 04/07/2009 1:01:30 PM PDT by mrmeangenes
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To: Faith
Nothing in there that requires a security clearance. In fact, according to this article, NO congress critters require a security clearance:

Double Standards

199 posted on 04/07/2009 1:45:58 PM PDT by PhilosopherStones
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