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Stolen Cessna's Pilot Captured by Fighter Jets
ABC News ^ | April 6,2009 | By PIERRE THOMAS and LUIS MARTINEZ

Posted on 04/06/2009 9:58:38 PM PDT by cricket

'Pilot Took Off Running After Landing Plane'

(Turkish born. . .third paragraph discloses his name)

A pilot who allegedly stole a Cessna plane from a Canadian flight school and was pursued for hours across the Midwest by fighter jets, was taken into custody after he landed on a Missouri highway late today and took off running, an FBI spokesman said.

[. . .]

A college official told a local newspaper that it was believed the pilot was not a student at the school. [. . .]

"Apparently, somebody jumped over the fence and just jumped into an aircraft," Judi Maundrell, the college's vice president of academics and student services, told the Thunder Bay News Source. "It was sitting as usual parked on the ramp. They keys are in all the aircrafts because students are using them." link/a>

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Canada; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: cessna; missouri; nationalsecurity; sept10; stolenplane; yavuz
Third paragraph reveals his name. . .Perhaps he just lost his job; or maybe the dog messed up his house. . .OR. . .what?
1 posted on 04/06/2009 9:58:39 PM PDT by cricket
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To: cricket

The fighter jets captured him after he started running? wow


2 posted on 04/06/2009 10:00:21 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: cricket

Bush’s fault.


3 posted on 04/06/2009 10:01:12 PM PDT by Big_Monkey
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To: cricket

Well, that’ stupid. Why would you leave the key in the ignition? Isn’t that some kind of an airport security violation?


4 posted on 04/06/2009 10:03:34 PM PDT by Ben Reyes (Palin 2012)
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To: cricket

What I would like to know is why this cessna was not shot down once it entered our airspace and the pilot refused to answer hails?


5 posted on 04/06/2009 10:05:06 PM PDT by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by their fruity little club.)
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To: cricket

He should have been shot down ...full stop, no questions.

ABC made a big deal about the cost to fly the F-16s ...ZERO has spent orders of magnitude more galavanting across Europe dissing the US to people who would be goose stepping witout our guys giving their lives for them. You can live in the past only so long but we have done nothing bad to Europe but allow them to hurt their fists beating on US.

ABC ...Almost a Broadcasting Company


6 posted on 04/06/2009 10:06:02 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Get the bats and light the hay)
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To: cricket; SkyDancer

Maybe more money should have been spent providing him with midnight basketball games...


7 posted on 04/06/2009 10:06:09 PM PDT by proud_yank (Socialism - An Answer In Search Of A Question For Over 100 Years)
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To: spikeytx86

Was wondering the same. . .incredible. ‘Jeopardy’ and ‘threat’ are words that mean something; or should. And now that he is captured; names should mean something as well.


8 posted on 04/06/2009 10:08:46 PM PDT by cricket (NOOOOOOO to Serfdom. . .)
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To: driftdiver

they were flying the VTOL version.


9 posted on 04/06/2009 10:10:45 PM PDT by kms61
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To: cricket

We so friggin PC now that we’re afraid of the criticism that would entail if we had (rightly) shot down this bozo after he refused to take it down.

You know damn well the Ruskies or the Chi-coms would not have had any such hesitation, had this happened in their airspace.

Once again, we show the world and terrorists in particular that we are weak.


10 posted on 04/06/2009 10:12:23 PM PDT by webschooner
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To: cricket

Yavuz...according to a source I just read means “stern, grim” in Turkish.


11 posted on 04/06/2009 10:12:43 PM PDT by americanophile
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To: Sequoyah101

Kudos to ABC. The MSM by and large; should be cited for treason by their reporting of Obama. Am glad to ABC ‘stepping out’ here.


12 posted on 04/06/2009 10:12:57 PM PDT by cricket (NOOOOOOO to Serfdom. . .)
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To: cricket

What? no headline like....Obama scrambles interceptors through NORAD for possible terror strike.....


13 posted on 04/06/2009 10:16:46 PM PDT by blasater1960 ( Dt 30, Ps 111, The Torah is perfect, attainable, now and forever)
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To: webschooner
Once again, we show the world and terrorists in particular that we are weak.

. . .yes and for sure. Obama was no doubt apprised of this situation. Meantime and 'next time'; our enemy may have a 'winner'.

14 posted on 04/06/2009 10:16:53 PM PDT by cricket (NOOOOOOO to Serfdom. . .)
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To: americanophile

Lots of Methodists come from Turkey, I hear.


15 posted on 04/06/2009 10:18:40 PM PDT by Deo volente
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To: blasater1960
What? no headline like....Obama scrambles interceptors through NORAD for possible terror strike.....

In our dreams. . .

16 posted on 04/06/2009 10:19:10 PM PDT by cricket (NOOOOOOO to Serfdom. . .)
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To: Deo volente

...yes, but it’s those Turkish Presbyterians we must beware of.


17 posted on 04/06/2009 10:27:59 PM PDT by americanophile
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To: spikeytx86
I'm guessing they didn't shoot him down for a couple of reasons. One, if they shoot him down, then he's almost certainly dead. Even in this day of excellent forensic science, dead men still tell no tales. They probably really wanted to question him. Two, if he's not close to a major population center, why take a life and destroy property?

That's probably what they were thinking when they did not give the interceptors the green light for a shootdown. However, I would counter that even over relatively sparsely populated areas, there are still US Citizens. How would they like to explain to someone that their loved ones from the farm in Minn are dead 'cause some whack job crashed his stolen aircraft into the farm house?

When he didn't respond to hails or directional commands, I'd have waited until he was over a truly uninhabited area and shot him down. Heck, just doing a close fly-by in full afterburner would probably produce enough wake turbulence to knock it out of the air. Or at least give him the message wide-screen and hi-def that he does not want to be in the same sky with the interceptors and he'd best put it down now.

18 posted on 04/06/2009 10:29:29 PM PDT by CodeMasterPhilzar (I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom. You can keep the "change.")
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To: blasater1960
. . .AND there WAS some concern. . .

At one point, the Wisconsin state capitol building in Madison was evacuated as a precaution as the plane flew over the city.

19 posted on 04/06/2009 10:36:27 PM PDT by cricket (NOOOOOOO to Serfdom. . .)
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To: americanophile
Yavuz...according to a source I just read means “stern, grim” in Turkish.

He should have stuck with 'Leon'. . .

20 posted on 04/06/2009 10:42:21 PM PDT by cricket (NOOOOOOO to Serfdom. . .)
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To: CodeMasterPhilzar

I’m stunned. Absolutely stunned. And mad!!

Why isn’t this guy and his plane a fresh, smoking hole somewhere?!?
Why doesn’t an F-16 have a freshly painted red maple leaf on it?!?

I understand that intel would want to talk with this guy, but after they figured out his personal history, its time to drop him like a bad habit, take HighRes pics of the crash zone, and past them all over the web with the caption: “Next?”.

What good is a 45 million dollar interdiction fighter if you don’t use it every now and again?

After 9/11, I never thought this type of thing would happen again. Amazing!


21 posted on 04/06/2009 10:43:19 PM PDT by stumpjumper
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To: cricket

LOL


22 posted on 04/06/2009 10:45:21 PM PDT by americanophile
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To: stumpjumper

I am afraid we as a nation have not learned from history. Which means I am afraid that we as a nation are doomed to repeat it.


23 posted on 04/06/2009 10:46:00 PM PDT by Marie2 (The capacity for self-government is a moral quality. Only a moral people can be free.)
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To: Ben Reyes

Story says they are left in airplanes for ‘students’. Thing they might change the policy?


24 posted on 04/06/2009 10:49:03 PM PDT by cricket (NOOOOOOO to Serfdom. . .)
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To: CodeMasterPhilzar
Two, if he's not close to a major population center, why take a life and destroy property? The guy flew over 5 states for 5 hours.
25 posted on 04/06/2009 10:53:19 PM PDT by franklog
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To: americanophile

It’s the Turkish Unitarians you’ve got to watch out for. Piss ‘em off and they’ll burn a question mark on your lawn.


26 posted on 04/06/2009 10:55:07 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Can't get enough of my snarking? http://twitter.com/slingsandarrows)
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To: cricket

Can a sidewinder lock onto the heat signature of a Cessna? I think we should have found out.


27 posted on 04/06/2009 11:16:41 PM PDT by Domandred (Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.)
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To: Ben Reyes
A pilot who allegedly stole a Cessna plane from a Canadian flight school and was pursued for hours across the Midwest by fighter jets [. . .] A college official told a local newspaper that it was believed the pilot was not a student at the school.

So then what was he? An instructor?!

28 posted on 04/06/2009 11:23:03 PM PDT by uncitizen
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To: cricket

He became a Canadian citizen in 2008, an changed his name from he original Turkish.

And now a Turkish national, wearing press credentials from Al-Jezirah (sp) (who denies he was a member of Al-J), is arrested after threatening to kill Obama with a knife.

Any dots to connect? And why would a Turkish national want to attempt assassination?


29 posted on 04/06/2009 11:27:37 PM PDT by bootless (Never Forget. Never Again. And NEVER GIVE UP!)
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To: Ben Reyes

There are about 12 different keys that fit about every legacy Cessna and Piper out there. Kinda low tech.

I hate it when criminals jeopardize general aviation.


30 posted on 04/06/2009 11:33:25 PM PDT by bootless (Never Forget. Never Again. And NEVER GIVE UP!)
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To: Slings and Arrows
It’s the Turkish Unitarians you’ve got to watch out for. Piss ‘em off and they’ll burn a question mark on your lawn.

LOL! But only after a lengthy discussion over tea and sushi on how to condemn you without appearing judgemental.

31 posted on 04/06/2009 11:38:19 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: driftdiver

“The fighter jets captured him after he started running? wow”

Yeah, I wonder how they “jumped across the fence”. That would have been a feat.


32 posted on 04/07/2009 12:01:07 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Quick justice for the senseless killing of Marine Lance Cpl. Robert Crutchfield.)
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To: Talisker

*snicker*


33 posted on 04/07/2009 12:28:51 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Can't get enough of my snarking? http://twitter.com/slingsandarrows)
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To: cricket
he landed on a Missouri highway late today and took off running...

It takes a lot of optimism to try to outrun an F-16.

34 posted on 04/07/2009 2:39:40 AM PDT by TurtleUp (Turtle up: cancel optional spending until 2012, and boycott TARP/stimulus companies forever!)
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To: cricket; Jim Noble; All

As Jim Noble noted here-

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2223818/posts?page=11#11

“The enemy learned something important tonight.

We won’t shoot first.”

A-yup! Nailed it.


35 posted on 04/07/2009 3:31:59 AM PDT by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
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To: CodeMasterPhilzar; All

There were more than two F-16s involved in the chase. Nearby Volk field home of the WI AFNG scambled jets and for 3 hours there was a tense chase going on which resulted in the state Capitol of Madison being evacuated. Very likely the plane was headed to Chicago, and this may have been a probe. What is interesting is the ABC report quoting air school officials saying the 31 yr old Canadian/Turk was not one of their students. If he was or wasn’t is moot, one thing he was, was a competent pilot.

If this didn’t originate in Canada we’d never know what the hell was going on because their media is hell of a lot more open than ours.http://www.theusmat.com/


36 posted on 04/07/2009 4:00:15 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (2010 One year to a new census and congressional redistricting, we need a strong hand in the House)
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To: mosesdapoet

I haven’t heard ONE word about this on TV!!!!


37 posted on 04/07/2009 4:31:42 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: driftdiver
The fighter jets captured him after he started running? wow

I was going to say that those F16 upgrades are really something! We've got the best fighters in the world, if they can capture someone who's on the run from the cops (on the ground!)

And I thought it was impressive when those Iraqi soldiers surrendered to the helicopter!

Mark

38 posted on 04/07/2009 4:44:15 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Ann Archy; All

That plane might of gotten lost by flying under radar for a time, then popping back up because the jets from Volk field were all over the place during that time. In addition they might have lost it when it veered south and safely landed in Missouri. The FBI will be all over that area because whatever his name is might have had gone to a pickup point and would have escaped. Hence I believe this was a probe. By the way I’m listening to WLS Done Wade & Roma am 890 as I’m monitoring my PC and ABC news is not mentioning what they earlier reported. That the pilot might not have been a student or his Turkish name ...See how things are done


39 posted on 04/07/2009 4:46:54 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (2010 One year to a new census and congressional redistricting, we need a strong hand in the House)
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To: mosesdapoet

No I DON’T know how things are done!!! I am SICK and TIRED of NOT getting the FACTS from the NEWS!!! SICK I tell you!


40 posted on 04/07/2009 4:50:31 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Sequoyah101

Exactly! Had they shot it down that would be the last time a ROP POS muslim tried it!


41 posted on 04/07/2009 5:11:30 AM PDT by Doc Savage ("Are you saying Jesus can't hit a curve ball? - Harris to Cerrano - Major League)
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To: bootless

And they stopped him????? Oh great!


42 posted on 04/07/2009 5:12:25 AM PDT by Doc Savage ("Are you saying Jesus can't hit a curve ball? - Harris to Cerrano - Major League)
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To: mosesdapoet

Clearly a probe to detect what would be the response. Next could be multiple entries from Canada in a simultaneous strike hoping one or two make it undetected. I would suggest that had he not been seen in Canada he may well have entered undetected.


43 posted on 04/07/2009 5:14:36 AM PDT by Doc Savage ("Are you saying Jesus can't hit a curve ball? - Harris to Cerrano - Major League)
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To: backhoe
“The enemy learned something important tonight. We won’t shoot first.”/A-yup! Nailed it./

Yes; no 'virgin visitations' that day; but hey; next time, for sure. . .

We have a leadership that 'demands' N. Korea be punished for launching a missile. Would offer that our Leaderhip should be punished for allowing it to happen.

Why did that one life in a stolen Cessna; clearly in threatening mode; become more important that the security of hundreds - if not thousands here in America?

When does the security of America; our citizens begin to matter? (Which job did Obama really sign on for as President? Creating; and inviting America-destroying crisis; so that he can insure the greatest control? If we are targeted successfully; would this crisis 'insure' maximum opportunity for the Left's ultimate control?

What does Obama think of the Islamic flag; flying over our White House? Does is matter or not?)

44 posted on 04/07/2009 5:21:19 AM PDT by cricket (NOOOOOOO to Serfdom. . .)
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To: Doc Savage

As it is it will cost more to deal with the SOB than the jets scramble ever did.

I heard the AP news this morning saying that he “allegedly” flew the airplane. The media are all POS.


45 posted on 04/07/2009 6:56:46 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Get the bats and light the hay)
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To: cricket
Stolen Cessna's Pilot Captured by Fighter Jets

I'll bet not!

46 posted on 04/07/2009 7:18:33 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (We have nothing to fear but Obama himself.)
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To: cricket

Was there anything in the news about Glorious Leader taking a call on his red bag phone during this chase. Wouldn’t that be something... Dear Leader gives the go ahead to shoot down a Turkish nutcase over the US while meeting with officials in Turkey...


47 posted on 04/07/2009 7:51:43 AM PDT by tubebender
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To: cricket

Third paragraph reveals his name, which used to be Adam and now is a Muslim name. Born in Turkey. Finally, the details that make this make sense.

Plus, he did NOT contact the F-16s when they came after him.

I’d say this is mighty suspicious.


48 posted on 04/07/2009 8:46:23 AM PDT by bboop (obama, little o, not a Real God)
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To: tubebender
Wouldn’t that be something... Dear Leader gives the go ahead to shoot down a Turkish nutcase over the US while meeting with officials in Turkey...

Am sure 'Dear Leader' was apprised of the situation. And we can rest assured - not, of course - that Obama would never shoot down a target that threatened American citizens.

49 posted on 04/08/2009 6:41:55 AM PDT by cricket (NOOOOOOO to Serfdom. . .)
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To: Domandred
The originals? (1960s) Probably not. But they've been out of service for years.

Those currently in service? I wouldn't bet against it.

However ... the Viper also has a 20mm gun. Just the thing for taking out a slow moving threat.

50 posted on 04/08/2009 6:45:37 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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